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08-16-2016 , 04:58 PM
Anyone play tonight? Wonder if aguero was worth it after his mixed bag


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08-16-2016 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WHUFC
What are peoples thoughts about DK changing so that some players can occupy a midfield or a forward spot?
They realised what was very obvious, having an 8 man rooster and then forcing two strikers as fixed positions is a bad joke. Might as well have a six-a-side game as offered by Picklive and others.
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08-16-2016 , 06:21 PM
I'm not massively impressed as I think part of the edge was picking the correct midfielders as they are clearly the chalk in dfs soccer. Would've preferred GK, 2Def, 3Mid,1Fwd,1UT


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08-16-2016 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Badboi4321
I'm not massively impressed as I think part of the edge was picking the correct midfielders as they are clearly the chalk in dfs soccer. Would've preferred GK, 2Def, 3Mid,1Fwd,1UT


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In full agreement with you.
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08-17-2016 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
They realised what was very obvious, having an 8 man rooster and then forcing two strikers as fixed positions is a bad joke. Might as well have a six-a-side game as offered by Picklive and others.
Agreed about forcing 2 strikers. Not sure I like their solution though. Think it adds an element of confusion with a lot of new options. Especially not good for the casual player imo

Forcing 3 mids or having 2 util would have been a much simpler solution for all players
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08-17-2016 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by WHUFC
Agreed about forcing 2 strikers. Not sure I like their solution though. Think it adds an element of confusion with a lot of new options. Especially not good for the casual player imo

Forcing 3 mids or having 2 util would have been a much simpler solution for all players
I have now played all the other games in their lobby. Games like golf where you only select six are suited to a 50k salary cap. But in other games 50k salary cap is very restricting and they can increase it.

For soccer they making changes back and forth, it is now confusing. Simple solution will be to increase overall salary cap, have 11 person rooster and allow players to play whatever formation they see fit. Their MLB game has 10 person rooster, NFL game has 9 person rooster and Soccer has 8 with two strikers. Not seeing the logic in all the changes in their soccer game.
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08-17-2016 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
I have now played all the other games in their lobby. Games like golf where you only select six are suited to a 50k salary cap. But in other games 50k salary cap is very restricting and they can increase it.

For soccer they making changes back and forth, it is now confusing. Simple solution will be to increase overall salary cap, have 11 person rooster and allow players to play whatever formation they see fit. Their MLB game has 10 person rooster, NFL game has 9 person rooster and Soccer has 8 with two strikers. Not seeing the logic in all the changes in their soccer game.
I don't think they are making changes back and forth and it doesn't seem confusing to me. They asked for feedback at the end of the Prem season and the consensus presumably from the respondents was that 8 players would create more differences between people's lineups, along with being quicker to pick a team for newer players. They fixed the yellow card issue where receiving a straight red was -3, a yellow and a red -4 and 2 yellows was -5 and they reduced the value of crosses. Relatively minor changes, which addressed (at least partially) well complained about problems. Acting on feedback.

Since then people have complained about having to pick 2 forwards, now you can potentially pick 0 if you don't like forwards or potentially 5 if you love them.

Salary cap is absolutely essential. The whole game is based on having a salary cap and making choices around it. On Saturday Aguero was hugely popular, but for the highest price, which meant all the choices around him were reasonably varied. With no salary pressure there would be more obvious plays that everyone has so it effectively reduces the player pool selecting from. Many similar lineups will ensue and it will reach the point where you are picking the odd player different from an opponent and seeing who wins.
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08-17-2016 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RCG
I don't think they are making changes back and forth and it doesn't seem confusing to me. They asked for feedback at the end of the Prem season and the consensus presumably from the respondents was that 8 players would create more differences between people's lineups, along with being quicker to pick a team for newer players. They fixed the yellow card issue where receiving a straight red was -3, a yellow and a red -4 and 2 yellows was -5 and they reduced the value of crosses. Relatively minor changes, which addressed (at least partially) well complained about problems. Acting on feedback.

Since then people have complained about having to pick 2 forwards, now you can potentially pick 0 if you don't like forwards or potentially 5 if you love them.

Salary cap is absolutely essential. The whole game is based on having a salary cap and making choices around it. On Saturday Aguero was hugely popular, but for the highest price, which meant all the choices around him were reasonably varied. With no salary pressure there would be more obvious plays that everyone has so it effectively reduces the player pool selecting from. Many similar lineups will ensue and it will reach the point where you are picking the odd player different from an opponent and seeing who wins.
I do not actually play heavy volume there on the soccer game and just one or two line-ups. Play much more in other sites that allow varying formations and 11 person rooster.

You can differentiate lline-up by playing defensive formation 4-5-1 or 5-4-1. Not every game week calls for picking forwards or attacking midfielders. 3-4-3 is popular in DFS but not optimal at all times. You will be surprised how many GPP's are won on other sites by a defensive formation that gets clean sheets and attacking returns.

No problem with salary cap or salary free myself. Just saying 50k does not necessarily have to be across all the sports they offer on the contest lobby. 50K is spot-on for Golf and other sports, might not be on others.
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08-17-2016 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
I do not actually play heavy volume there on the soccer game and just one or two line-ups. Play much more in other sites that allow varying formations and 11 person rooster.

You can differentiate lline-up by playing defensive formation 4-5-1 or 5-4-1. Not every game week calls for picking forwards or attacking midfielders. 3-4-3 is popular in DFS but not optimal at all times. You will be surprised how many GPP's are won on other sites by a defensive formation that gets clean sheets and attacking returns.

No problem with salary cap or salary free myself. Just saying 50k does not necessarily have to be across all the sports they offer on the contest lobby. 50K is spot-on for Golf and other sports, might not be on others.
DK allows the formation to vary more than most sites I'd imagine now with the M/F. You can play half your team as the goalkeeper and defenders for clean sheets or 5/8 as midfielders or even 5/8 as forwards if you wanted, depending on your definition of midfielder or forward I guess.

50k I think is fine to have standard across all sports, it makes sense to keep it the same, if there is too much or too little salary pressure it's just the players prices that change rather than the budget. I think there has to be enough pressure where you're limited to the number of superstars you can pick. If it's the Champions League and Barcelona are playing someone terrible, it's not hard to realise that Neymar, Suarez and Messi are likely to be decent. If you can afford them and anyone else you'd dream of having, it just seems a bit of a pointless exercise to me. Much more fun if you could pick them, but have to economise with the rest of the team, or pick 2 of them and have a smaller number of weak links, or just pick 1 of them and have a strong all round team.
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08-17-2016 , 06:51 PM
The changes to format have all been good in my opinion, granted they could've happened all at once but I like that they are adjusting to player feedback and dfs soccer is still in its infancy.

8man good, less crossing OP good. Now not two out and out forwards is good.

If all games are 50k salary why would they change it? Sounds like you just want everyone to be cheaper so it feels like more of a salary, then you can pick everyone you want and you don't have a game...


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08-17-2016 , 09:09 PM
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The changes to format have all been good in my opinion, granted they could've happened all at once but I like that they are adjusting to player feedback and dfs soccer is still in its infancy.

8man good, less crossing OP good. Now not two out and out forwards is good.

If all games are 50k salary why would they change it? Sounds like you just want everyone to be cheaper so it feels like more of a salary, then you can pick everyone you want and you don't have a game...

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Like i said earlier I do not play much of the soccer game. I enter two to three line-up's at most and might play more if they fine-tune their game.

Do play a bit on their Golf and MMA, for me their best all-rounded games in the lobby for scoring, positions to pick and salary.

On salaries & formations you have all sort of football DFS sites now, some closer to the FPL game. Other salary free and others with their own take on it. Unless Squwaka come up with a game changer in September, the headline GPP top prize payout across sites has settled as expected and is very similar.
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08-19-2016 , 10:49 AM
Still trying to use FFS data; it's getting more nightmarish every day. Does anybody get answers from FFS support?

I'd like to have a "stat conceded" table for every team. FFS doesn't seem provide that (except for Goal conceded and Fouls conceded I suppose) ; can you guys find this kind of thing (for example, Team Interceptions Conceded) somewhere?

So I've copy/pasted a team stat table for each individual gameweek. Unfortunately, when a game is moved to a different (calendar) week, like from last year Sunderland-Everton's GW 30, played during GW 37; the stats from this game are just added to those fomr the actual GW 37 fixture in FFS tables. :-(

Any way around that, to have the stats from each distinct game?
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08-20-2016 , 02:49 PM
crushed some souls today
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08-21-2016 , 07:55 PM
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crushed some souls today
Hope the souls that got crushed are doing fine. One needs a sense of humor and a bigger sense of irony gambling on sports. The sure odds-on picks can flop leaving the bookmaker or the contrarian DFS player happy.

Anyway good to see La Liga in the lobby and hopefully Serie A can be added ass well. Bundesliga as a league is not allowed to be played at any DFS sites due to the legal position taken by the league to protect copyright. Ligue 1 should be fine for DFS.
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08-21-2016 , 08:01 PM
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Still trying to use FFS data; it's getting more nightmarish every day. Does anybody get answers from FFS support?

I'd like to have a "stat conceded" table for every team. FFS doesn't seem provide that (except for Goal conceded and Fouls conceded I suppose) ; can you guys find this kind of thing (for example, Team Interceptions Conceded) somewhere?

So I've copy/pasted a team stat table for each individual gameweek. Unfortunately, when a game is moved to a different (calendar) week, like from last year Sunderland-Everton's GW 30, played during GW 37; the stats from this game are just added to those fomr the actual GW 37 fixture in FFS tables. :-(

Any way around that, to have the stats from each distinct game?
Similar membership price to scout and to me it has a much more clean concise feel there. The forum is not clattered at all, good discussion and they might have a solution to your question. Give them a try.

https://allthingsfpl.com/players-opta-stats-explained/

https://allthingsfpl.com/fantasy-foo...embers-lounge/

https://allthingsfpl.com/fantasy-foo...mparison-tool/
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08-25-2016 , 11:20 AM
FanDuel need to get it together and fast. I liked the way you cant edit line ups after you have put a team in and first game kicks off, however starting your slate at the 12.45KO with another 6 games kicking off at 3pm doesn't work at all. Can't believe they actually thought that was a good idea.
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08-26-2016 , 10:19 AM
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FanDuel need to get it together and fast. I liked the way you cant edit line ups after you have put a team in and first game kicks off, however starting your slate at the 12.45KO with another 6 games kicking off at 3pm doesn't work at all. Can't believe they actually thought that was a good idea.
Agreed, with all the rotation this early in the season it is nearly impossible to figure out the starting eleven. Best to just have games that start at the same time so at least we can see the proper team line-up's.
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08-27-2016 , 02:17 PM
thx mahrez
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08-28-2016 , 04:02 PM
do any sites offer international break contests?
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08-28-2016 , 06:33 PM
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do any sites offer international break contests?
I know Mondogoal used to.
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08-28-2016 , 07:22 PM
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I know Mondogoal used to.
Mondogoal now banned in Tennessee. Gahhhhhhhhhh
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08-28-2016 , 09:19 PM
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thx mahrez
Mahrez must have thought that I had captained him this wk in FPL as thats his usual party piece when I make that move. Might have to shuffle the pack and go Hazard for Mahrez after the break. And thanks Baines for ruining my Sat slates

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do any sites offer international break contests?
Hoping that DK put some slates on for the World Cup qualifiers, already feeling uncomfortable at having no soccer DFS for 2 weeks.
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08-30-2016 , 10:17 AM
No World Cup qualifiers posted on Mondo yet, guess they will offer them and they seem to have now built a large database of players from a variety of leagues. DK is already posted World Cup Qualifiers for the South America section. Fan Duel will not do World Cup qualifiers.

The question I have is how big soccer DFS will get by the next World Cup ? Will we start seeing much larger GPP's and prize pools by then ?

I started playing soccer DFS at the start of World Cup in 2010 in South Africa. It was just one or two sites then. It had now got much bigger and lots of choice around.
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08-30-2016 , 10:48 AM
Dfs actually sucks for international comps. Not even games per slate.
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09-08-2016 , 03:06 PM
For the Gameweek 4 EPL this site offers all odds, match, more than 2.5 goals, goal odds of most interesting players and Clean sheet odds under: http://www.11heroes.com/article/preview-epl-game-day-4
An injured player / banned playerlist is usually there on Fridays aswell. The site provides special Lineups for Games on Fantasybet and Fanaments aswell, of you play there def. worth a look!
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