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08-11-2016 , 05:27 PM
Seems like Squawka have teamed up with the old classic http://www.fantasyleague.com/

Matchboss is now saying September launch though so looks like they are behind schedule.
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08-12-2016 , 04:50 AM
Hey guys, what's the best site to use for fantasy premier league dfs using a U.K. bank account to deposit? I would love to play larger prize pools and a good immersive site? Any suggestions would be much appreciated as its my first time trying out dfs. Cheers
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08-12-2016 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Transcendence
Hey guys, what's the best site to use for fantasy premier league dfs using a U.K. bank account to deposit? I would love to play larger prize pools and a good immersive site? Any suggestions would be much appreciated as its my first time trying out dfs. Cheers
Are you playing from UK?
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08-12-2016 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by trollguttn
Are you playing from UK?
Actually I'm in India at the moment. Gna be playing from here til EPT Barca. Is there a decent site you could recommend by chance? I can use my U.K. bank to deposit.
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08-12-2016 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Transcendence
Actually I'm in India at the moment. Gna be playing from here til EPT Barca. Is there a decent site you could recommend by chance? I can use my U.K. bank to deposit.
www.FantasyBet.com allows customers from most of the world, but logins from the US are blocked. India should be fine, and deposits with UK bank too.

Last edited by trollguttn; 08-12-2016 at 07:51 AM.
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08-12-2016 , 09:13 AM
Does FanDuel not have soccer in the US? Only the UK? Did one of those Fantasy Football sites that were free if you made a FanDuel deposit and I did so figuring I'd play soccer

Where is Fosu-Mensah on the United depth chart?
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08-12-2016 , 04:07 PM
Uk only indeed.

So one cannot download spreadsheets from ffs, but copy-paste stuff?

Also their naming seems a bit suspect, they only list the last name of a player, unless somebody else shares the same name? What if player A (say "John Doe") is only player with his last name, thus listed as Doe ; and halfway through the season player B joins the EPL with same last name (say Pat Doe) ; does player's A name change in FFS's tables? Thus making "old tables" not matching any longer the newly created tables?
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08-12-2016 , 06:02 PM
Jean, I struggled with Fscout as well, even after paying the twelve English pounds for > access!!! If your going to copy and paste there are other sites out there that are easier to scrape or copy past data from with a simple AHK. Much easier.
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08-13-2016 , 06:31 AM
The early slate on mondo has a: "Roster Lock: Monday Aug 8 2:31 PM". Any idea what that means?
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08-15-2016 , 05:27 AM
There seems to be some discrepancy between FD stats and FFS stats. For example, for GW 1, FD lists Heurelo Gomes as having:
4 clearances
4*5 passes
while FFS has 0 clearances for gomes and 14 passes. Any idea why? Whom to trust?

Likewise for Takles, numbers listed at FD do not match either Takles won or Takles from FFS. I thought both used OPTA, what's happening?

Last edited by Jean; 08-15-2016 at 05:35 AM.
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08-15-2016 , 07:14 AM
The Opta stats says Gomes had 4 clearances, 20 open play passes of which 11 were successful. Also 6 saves made, no tackles and no tackles won. So Fan Duel seem to have it right. Just getting used to their scoring and I like it. Variety of ways to score points and win.

I do not have a Fantasy Football Scout membership and if I paid money for it, I will query about how they gather their stats.
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08-15-2016 , 09:09 AM
thanks; where do you get your opta stats from?
Aslo FD mentions specifically "successful passes", so I guess he must have completed 9 passes outisde open play if FD has it right?
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08-15-2016 , 04:43 PM
Mondo lists Gomes as 17 passes completed, so all three sources disagree :-( Mane is listed with 6 takles on FD, but 4 takles on both mondo and FFS (4 "takles won" at least, but 7 "takles").
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08-15-2016 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean
Mondo lists Gomes as 17 passes completed, so all three sources disagree :-( Mane is listed with 6 takles on FD, but 4 takles on both mondo and FFS (4 "takles won" at least, but 7 "takles").
Mane made 6 tackles overall, 4 tackles of the six were won. So FanDuel and DK should only score the 4 tackles won for Mane. On Mondo Mane tackles will not matter as only defenders are awarded points for tackles won.

For Fan Duel, no idea why goals are scored as 20 points. They should revert to 15 points for goals and as the assist is still at 7 points. Besides that they have a good scoring and still think Mondo is scoring is the best overall.

I use a variety of sources to check on stats. StatsZone, Allthingsfpl Opta data, also the stats on the revamped Sky Sports fantasy game and other draft games like Togga.

I play seasonal games as much as DFS, find checking variety of sources much more helpful than relying on just one. Do not use any projection/tout sites at all. Tend to listen to all the projection sites podcasts to gauge what the weekly ownership will be and who to fade so us to differentiate line-up.
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08-15-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Britton
Seems like Squawka have teamed up with the old classic http://www.fantasyleague.com/

Matchboss is now saying September launch though so looks like they are behind schedule.
I played their Euro 2016 game and was impressed by the unique gameplay. I can see this being a hit with new and also the hard-core DFS players.

Euro 2016 games had ten team, all the U.K teams then France, Italy, Germany, Portugal, Spain and Belgium. All one had to do was pick the one player who will be the MVP for their respective teams in the whole tournament according to Squwaka's performance points statistics. No salaries, no formation etc ... the usual formula followed by the other sites.

Also BuaBook have revamped and offering all the top European Leagues to trade either in season markets or match markets. For me the most slickest and innovative platform around. Spread trading is best learned by starting with very small trades and scaling up slowly. If one is not comfortable with that you can trade in full without using a spread as well. Here you do not have to deal with ownership, multi-entries, salaries etc ... Just backing or laying individual players across the Premier League and other European Leagues.

Let the leagues commence and there is enough platforms around now to cater to varying tastes.

Last edited by Garrincha67; 08-15-2016 at 07:32 PM.
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08-16-2016 , 06:28 AM
FanDuel is so bad right now, really disappointed
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08-16-2016 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TWhelan
FanDuel is so bad right now, really disappointed
In what way?
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08-16-2016 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean
There seems to be some discrepancy between FD stats and FFS stats. For example, for GW 1, FD lists Heurelo Gomes as having:
4 clearances
4*5 passes
while FFS has 0 clearances for gomes and 14 passes. Any idea why? Whom to trust?

Likewise for Takles, numbers listed at FD do not match either Takles won or Takles from FFS. I thought both used OPTA, what's happening?

I've got similar concerns about Mondo data. Amongst many other discrepancies, they have Britos as 6 interceptions when he is down as 3 on every single other source I have looked at.

Also, Prodl is down for 5 tackles when I believe the correct stat is 2

Interestingly, these both some from the same game though there are plenty of other smaller differences from other games
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08-16-2016 , 04:15 PM
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In what way?
Lineup management is terrible (or rather inexistent). Can't name a lineup. Can't enter a lineup in several contests. Can't import an existing lineup into another entry in the browser version. Newly imported lineup (in the smartphone version obv) has its players reshuffled so it becomes a different lineup (and editing it will not edit the other copy). Etc.

It is puzzling that they have a polished software in the US but decided to start from scratch and do something with litterally no feature (can't see detailed player stats live. Can't get spreadsheet with players names and prices for the slates. etc) in the UK instead of reusing the US soft.
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08-16-2016 , 04:16 PM
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I've got similar concerns about Mondo data. Amongst many other discrepancies, they have Britos as 6 interceptions when he is down as 3 on every single other source I have looked at.

Also, Prodl is down for 5 tackles when I believe the correct stat is 2

Interestingly, these both some from the same game though there are plenty of other smaller differences from other games

I did not pick any Watford players but tend to double check stats overall. You should notify them if there are scoring discrepancies. Overall scoring on Mondo is fine except the problems they had with live scoring updates.

Britos made 3 interceptions, Prodl made 3 tackles overall and 2 tackles own.

Guessing they wait for a bit before settling for stats correction from Opta, but if stats correction comes at a later date then it is too late. The rules are below and the same across most sites on stats correction.

Live Scoring

Opta will provide live scoring based on their proprietary tracking system. Judgments of all statistics, such as if a pass is completed or a shot is on or off target, is solely the determination of Opta. The same rules apply to all our contestants, so there is no inherent advantage or disadvantage. If a scoring error by Opta is made after all matches in the contest are declared final and prizes are awarded, corrections will not be reflected nor will prizes be adjusted.
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08-16-2016 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WHUFC
I've got similar concerns about Mondo data. Amongst many other discrepancies, they have Britos as 6 interceptions when he is down as 3 on every single other source I have looked at.

Also, Prodl is down for 5 tackles when I believe the correct stat is 2

Interestingly, these both some from the same game though there are plenty of other smaller differences from other games
That's concerning :-( I've sent a query to FD support to clarify scoring discrepancies; mondo doesn't answer my emails, so somebody else should do them (good luck...).
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08-16-2016 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean
Lineup management is terrible (or rather inexistent). Can't name a lineup. Can't enter a lineup in several contests. Can't import an existing lineup into another entry in the browser version. Newly imported lineup (in the smartphone version obv) has its players reshuffled so it becomes a different lineup (and editing it will not edit the other copy). Etc.

It is puzzling that they have a polished software in the US but decided to start from scratch and do something with litterally no feature (can't see detailed player stats live. Can't get spreadsheet with players names and prices for the slates. etc) in the UK instead of reusing the US soft.
The site does not feel like the final version and still feels in Beta. They plan to introduce late swaps, import/export and other features soon. Guessing they rushed to have it ready for the opening day of the Premier League.

They do not offer soccer contest for their American platform at all. So it is a new game in all aspects and hopefully they take feedbacks to improve.
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08-16-2016 , 04:49 PM
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That's concerning :-( I've sent a query to FD support to clarify scoring discrepancies; mondo doesn't answer my emails, so somebody else should do them (good luck...).
I did email them and got a very fast response:

The issue is that OPTA provides many different feeds for their statistics, and the mix of feeds that we get from them is proprietary. This causes discrepancies between our stats and the OPTA provided stats you will find on other sites.

I'm not buying this to be honest. If all other sites, including DFS sites, can get the same data then so should Mondo. There is no way Britos made an extra 3 interceptions and they only appeared on Mondo feed imo
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08-16-2016 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean
Lineup management is terrible (or rather inexistent). Can't name a lineup. Can't enter a lineup in several contests. Can't import an existing lineup into another entry in the browser version. Newly imported lineup (in the smartphone version obv) has its players reshuffled so it becomes a different lineup (and editing it will not edit the other copy). Etc.

It is puzzling that they have a polished software in the US but decided to start from scratch and do something with litterally no feature (can't see detailed player stats live. Can't get spreadsheet with players names and prices for the slates. etc) in the UK instead of reusing the US soft.
Agreed on all fronts. Think they have great potential though
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08-16-2016 , 04:57 PM
What are peoples thoughts about DK changing so that some players can occupy a midfield or a forward spot?
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