So here are the stats for Rangel. 1 cross excluding corners. 5 clearances, 2 blocks, 4 interceptions, 3 tackles and 1 tackles won. No shots at all.

These are the player stats from OPTA for the Swansea vs Aston Villa game.

They counted the situations in Question as passes and not crosses . Seems stupid.

Fully agree it is stupid. Any crosses is open to these type of misinterpretation. They better of just sticking to successful crosses which is much more clearer and well defined.

Wait is DS @soccerdfs ?

yes

International break and nice time to take a break from DFS. Till the next round of games, let me share a few good reads.

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Mondogoal just replied to my email regarding my pending cashout 11 days after I sent it and in it this Philip Powers guy repeated something I had already said 11 days ago.

I cannot wait to have $0 on this site.

I've also been disappointed with how long my cashout has taken. They requested documents from me and I sent them 13 days ago, and I received a quick acknowledgement that they'd been received and would be checked. 7 days later I had heard nothing further so sent another email, at which point I was told my cashout would be sent to me that day. Still no sign of it. I guess if it arrives tomorrow that's still within the 3-5 business days they say it will take on their website. Just feels like a long time since I requested it though, with the delay at the documents stage being far longer than I'd anticipated.

Has anyone used Skrill on Mondo recently to withdraw ? It should be instant for deposit & withdrawal. I asked Mondo this and they replied there is bug they need to fix with Skrill withdrawal.

I have done withdrawal of all funds from the $ side of the site as there is hardly anything to play there now. The withdrawal was proceed to the bank account within three days. This was around two months ago.

Never been asked for KYC (know your customer) documentations as is the norm in most other sites. I will be glad if they can fix Skrill and add Netller as e-wallet options are much superior. Same for DraftKings as PayPal is not up to the task.

Yes, their support guy seems overwhelmed, I think it is only the one guy! He probably does a bunch of other stuff also.

They still have not dealt with the issue of money going missing from my account during the Europa League balls-up a week last Thursday. They actually first said that my account 'looked fine', this is when it went from having over £500 in to under £100 when the majority of the balance hadn't even been in play! As I said in a previous post, it is a shame as their games are good but it is hard to trust them with any proper money in your account now.

FWIW, my first withdrawal a while ago now took nearly a month but the last I made only took a few days, the ones in between have been pretty random!

Having FTP flashbacks reading this. Concerning

So they don't have any of the £50K Championship games on the $ side?

No they do not, I do not think I have seen that many £50k Championship games on the $ side. They have some lower prize Breakway games for the Premier League, but the lobby is devoid of much guaranteed contests. Understandable as they have withdrawn from a lot of states in the US.

Speaking to a DK rep on Twitter. It feels like they can't defend their position on crosses being overpowered. They also selectively answer questions.

Kind of frustrating. I'm not sure how they don't see crosses are just too OP and won't sit well with the U.K. Market, which they could need to survive.

I'd have as much action on both sites if they address the clear imbalance that leads to contests being decided by one or two differentials.

I'm with you I don't like crosses being included.

In the end Draftkings will make a decision based on what makes them the most money, the real issue they have is trying to understanding the financial impact each change they make will have on the different player groups involved, this is more complicated than I think they realise.

I'd have no issue with successful (i.e. finds a team-mate) crosses from open play (i.e. no corners or free-kicks) being rewarded. The current system of rewarding a point for a terrible corner which hits the first defender is silly.

That said, I think it's fair enough that DK don't constantly tweak their scoring system throughout the season. I have no issue with them continuing with their current scoring system for the time being, but would like to see them try something new for preferably the Euros, and if not, the new Premier League season.

I sent them an email too. Tried to explain to them that rewarding unsuccessful crosses is the same as rewarding an incomplete pass, hopefully they can understand an analogy with "their" football 😜.
I'm sure it takes time to make such important changes but hopefully by the time next season starts they have gotten rid of such a ridiculous way to award points.
I suggest you all send similar emails so that they have the feedback from us there.
Cheers

Doesn't even need to hit the first man. Milner crossed the ball straight out of play from a corner, +1 point.

The scoring might be unbalanced but I do like it, it's nice to be able to sweat players who are exciting to watch. How do you define a successful cross? If the player on your team gets a touch to it?

I think there needs to be more points for CB/CM because they are pretty much worthless at the moment. Maybe win bonus, higher goal bonus, even clearance bonus.

This for me, it makes it easier to recognise a positive play for your score. If you reward only successful crosses, that is defined by when your player gets a touch again that is debatable if it is really good. You cross a ball to 1 yard inside the box and your player flicks it on, never going to score a header from there, you get a point. Or your player whips in a cross along 6yard box, that striker just misses, you get no point? Doesn't sound fair either.

I have chatted a bit with DK on Twitter. Like most of them they ignore you when it suits them and respond erratically. I will send them a detailed email regarding the lop-sided scoring and hopefully they can polish it for start of next season.

I am surprised to see they do not fill their games, so eventually they will get the message. Adding scoring for the sake of it is pointless, it does not make the game more exciting. Just adds more randomness to the variance that already exists in these games.

Successful crosses and shots on target is fine and well defined. Any shot and any cross is ridiculous and open to misinterpretation. No one is saying they should make changes every week, but any platform worth its salt should do regular reviews and iron out flaws.

Here is more scoring rules from other providers if you want to have a look. For example Bet4best have detailed scoring and captain option, but the scoring is much tighter. In DK you might need to get 160 plus points to get top ten cash placing, while in Bet4best getting 70 plus points can put you in the top three positions. 80 points is enough to come out on top. Add to that their game is salary free, it has appeal for the recreational player.

Differing approach to scoring from these two sites, having more scores as DK thinks does not necessarily make for excellent gameplay.

https://www.bet4thebest.com/pub/landing/rules.html

This what I can find online on how OPTA define events in the game. It also mention it is up to the fantasy provider if they want interpret goal assists. So with crossing on DK I have no idea who makes the final call on crosses. Is it OPTA or Draft Kings ?

I do have access to OPTA stats it is extremely detailed as well. When it comes to crosses it just defines in two parts - 1. Total Crosses (excluding corners) 2. Successful Crosses (excluding corners).

So for this season top five will be as follows. Huge discrepancy between total crosses and successful crosses. Hence why you should score crosses only for accuracy and completion. Same could be said for shots and shots on target.


1. Marc Albrighton. Total crosses (excluding corners) is - 189

Successful crosses (excluding corners ) is - 33

2. Robbie Brady. Total crosses (excluding corners) is - 141

Successful crosses (excluding corners ) is - 32

3. James McClean. Total crosses (excluding corners) is - 134

3. Moussa Sissoko. Successful crosses (excluding corners ) is - 31

4. Daryl Janmaat. Total crosses (excluding corners) is - 133

4. Cedric Soares. Successful crosses (excluding corners ) is - 30

5. Dusan Tadic. Total crosses (excluding corners) is - 125

5. Mesut Ozil. Successful crosses (excluding corners ) is - 27

http://optasports.otbdigital.co.uk/n...ontentTemplate

"Fantasy Goal Assist

From Summer 2013, Opta have started to collect a range of other assists used by fantasy football, but also available to clients to determine their own definition should they wish."

For anyone thinking of playing Mondogoal anything above small stakes this weekend, I would advise against it. They have still not returned my funds that simply vanished almost 3 weeks ago now and can not even provide proper transactional logs as they don't seem to keep a record of anything. I would be amazed if they were not in breach of some data compliance regulations, even with being outside the EU.

I know at least one other person affected by this who is currently in the same boat.

When everything runs smoothly I love MG, but there will be more f ups and good luck getting anything back when it does inevitably happen, even getting a reply is hard enough!

Really sorry to hear that and it is quite worrying, I raised the transaction logs not being fit for purpose a couple of years ago and they never improved them. I basically took the view (which is the same case for a number of the sites) not to play with too much cash at a time and just accept there may be some mistakes, if not you just spend your whole time trying to keep track of it all.

They have a gambling commission licence in the UK so I would at least send them this link and say you will refer the matter to the Gambling Commission unless they respond adequately, hopefully they will then prioritise resolving the matter for you- http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk...-operator.aspx

I hope it gets sorted

Yea I'm still missing money from my account as well. Hopefully won't need to get the Gambling Commission involved although there hasn't really been any progress made so far..