Do a calc and find out

For your information. MatchdayFantasy looks to going live very soon. Their app is already on the AppStore and they looking for people to test their games for bugs. They prefer players with IPhone and also to have friends with IPhone to play/test their games.

http://matchdayfantasy.com

Matchday Fantasy Football by Matchday Fantasy Football AS
https://appsto.re/gb/8x3m7.i

Totally. A guy at RotoGrinders wrote very interesting weekly articles on NFL this season. Basically calculating the P&L of multi-entries players (min 100 LUs) on the different milly makers. Pretty much every week, the aggregate P&L was neg with around 80% players consistently losing money each week.

What people hope is to hit big when they hit. But they can easily go broke before that with multi entries...

Here is Rotogrinders piece for anyone interested to give it a read.

https://rotogrinders.com/articles/en...fitable-103881

Another excellent write up in the link below too.

http://www.fantasydegenerate.com/blo...ly-really-good

Are the paper fantasy games profitable Garrincha? I always assumed the effective rake would be massive.

The seasonal paper fantasy games are doable but one needs a chunk of luck to go one's way. The mid season games like Sun Dream Team Europe just for Champions League and Europa League should be profitable. End of game prizes pay 25k to first place finish and all the way to 100th place. Total prizes of 70k.

Only five teams allowed to be entered into the contests so no worries of syndicates entering hundrerds of teams.

These new weekly games starting this year should be profitable too. They have responded quick and seeing the threat of DFS in on holding to their customers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fan...o-know....html

https://super6.skysports.com/landing...CMP=six_a_side

Lol at a lot that has been said on here.

I thought the discussion was about entering multiple LUs into GPPs, not the same LU multiple times, so your articles are irrelevant. Obviously entering 1 LU 10 times takes about 3 seconds.

There is a huge skill in entering 30+ LUs. You still have to research your player pool and then build combinations that supplement each other all whilst staying in the salary cap. Any team news adjustments mean you literally have to work at near light speed to avoid any players not playing. Seriously, try it one time, just with 10 unique LUs, you will see how hard it is and massively time consuming. And it's a completely different skill set to just playing 1 LU.

Personally I only enter 1-3 LUs as I prefer cash games but that doesn't mean I don't acknowledge the skill required.


Also, if you only build 1 LU, why don't you play cash?? Seems backwards logic

I put the links there so people could read for themselves. Two well-researched write-up's that discuss multi-entering in all guises. Thought this section was pretty clear and I am in full agreement with the authors.

"This table is showing that any time you enter more than a single entry in a GPP contest, your expected ROI gradually declines due to the top-heavy payout structure of these contests, essentially because you are competing against yourself for the top prize. This is a major burden to expected ROI, and also means the more entries a single player has, the more the player needs to win in order to be profitable. Creating a 2nd entry instantly requires you to have a success rate of 24.88%, 2% higher than a single entry. Additional entries gradually decrease your statistical likelihood of long term success, with 100+ entries in a single contest requiring an insane 41.19% win rate just to break even!

In conclusion, while I don't expect this to stave off the debate anytime soon, hopefully it will help you appreciate the multi-enterer's place in DFS GPP tournaments. They are putting themselves at a self-imposed ROI disadvantage by entering so many times in the same contest, which makes it even more impressive if they can turn a profit in the long run. And truth be told, their multiple entries are a big reason why such large prizes exist in the the first place."

Even if people are lowering their ROI by entering 20x entries, I'd argue they're still lowering yours as well, as imo their expected roi of each individual lineup will be higher than that of a recreational single entrant - which is why I like the single entry games.
Similar to my opinion on the poker economy, and 20 tabling rb grinders being really bad for the games, yes they're not as good as a 1 tabling 10% evbb/100 grinder, but 20x1evb/100 is taking wayyyy more away from you.

In CG you mean I assume, not GPP.

No I mean in gpp as well. I usually make one lineup and enter it into every single contest available.

Madrid time, think they'll create loads v this roma team. Calling 3-1 madrid, isco seems a decent punt imo.

Weee losing everything. Overrated gent underrated wolfsburg

So you single enter everything. I understand you used to play on mondo, I assume you multi-entered the main GPP with different lineups there?

Nope single entered everything until the last week of the season for their final tournament. Didn't play much on mondo this year.

This is one of those difficult dilemmas you have in deciding where to go. Wolfsburg have been bad this year and won a game in a long while at the weekend.

While Gent have exceeded expectations and their players looked value. So I went for Gent based on Wokfsburg's recent bad form. Draxler came good and hindsight is 20/20.

I enjoy the European midweek games a lot. It is fun finding out about non-Premier League teams and players. Also nice to play a paid DK contest over two days with swap option. Look forward to next week's games. Much prefer to play four fixtures over the two only offered at Mondo.

So looking like 180 points plus is good enough to win most of the contests. That is a tough score you will need nearly all players drafted hitting 10 plus points.

What do you think of the final tournament ? How many tickets did you have ? Think five tickets is ideal so one can focus on each line up and adjust when team's are announced.

Final game of the season will have dead rubber games, lots of rotation. Unless there are teams in relegation or going for the league. Last season everything was decided except the last relegation spot.

Good promotion for Mondo but Gameweek 38 will be a lottery and will not surprise me if a single qualifier with one ticket wins it.

A championship either at DK or Mondo including semi-final & final games at Euro 2016 should be fun.

130points with main team, pretty meh day, $143 back from $88, pjanic huge let down. Dejaegere did well, milicevic as expected. CR7 as expected.

Blenderhd ran the ****ing show!

With regards to DK head to head matches, do you feel that over time you have earned the respect from the other top Pros whereby they dont want to play you in a head to head match.

Or do you think some of the top Pros just like to book as much action as possible and they dont really care if you will give them a more difficult match than the average fish?

I see you can limit the amount of head to head action each opponent can take off you when you set it up in the lobby so that way you can make sure each Pro can only play you once per stake level. That will limit the amount of vs Pro action you get.

Obvs it would be more +EV and higher win % if you got all action vs fish rather than Pro v Pro. I am wondering if I start racking up decent scores every week will this scare off the Pros from playing me or are these guys ego driven and they will sit your head to head matches every week to make sure you get a few decent contests rather than just getting to stomp fish.

Before you could block people i would hunt down regs relentlessly for meta game purposes. Force them to not post games because i was beating them down or limit amnt people could join of theirs. The benefit of this is they stop posting bigger games, and fish can only join a limited amnt of their games meaning I can get more games vs the fish. Now regs can just block the 3 best players of any sport and post games with no consequences.

So basically you want to strive to be the 4th best player in any sport so you can block all the 3 better players than you, and not be blocked by everyone else. It's pretty ****ing stupid and blocking should just be removed (the matchup limiter is a fair compromise).

But ya if you do well pros will generally stop trying to scoop you. The ideal situation for pros is having a diverse set of opponents so they dont end up in a situation where losing vs one person won't tank their weekend. Currently every game week for me hinges on beating maxdalury since he's the only person that will give a ton of action, thankfully I have a massive win rate vs him, however he did put a big hurting on me last UCL.

I think satty only tournaments are pretty cool esp for end of season tournies (hopefully DK does a live final for soccer).

I had the max tickets (10). If tickets are limited and you can only satty in you will always want the max (cost me 800usd to win ~3k+ usd worth of tickets). Honestly having some dead rubber games are way better for fantasy than all highly contested games, tends to be more scoring, and more edges available if you do your research (<3 walcott).

Whats the matchup limiter?

Can't wait for the website to go live in UK, atm can't do any of this blocking 3 players, etc, I just enter 1 h2h v a random, then on popup choose to play it 10 times and get matched up with what I presume are 10 other regs that have already registered games.

Even on the app you can select your h2h opponent

yeah but only one game at a time and you can select your oponent but you cant register yourself to that screen so other people can select you, you can only join others games, not new lobby for yourself.

I missed this limit option the first time I used the app too.

After you go to set up your head to head match. Tap public. It then displays the entry fees for your contest.

Naturally you batter right in and select the $ amount you want to play for. Before you do this, scroll right down to the bottom of the app and tucked underneath the $10,600 maximum stake level is an option:

Opponent Limit: Unlimited

Tap that and set how many times you will allow someone to play you.