After looking again I'm a mug, there are so many ways to play this slate, so many nice MF as mentioned. Do you stack high $ strikers, go big on madrid & w all the other cheapies that look value?

Looks like it's going to be my Willian Vs their Di Maria for the marbles in all my H2Hs. Being a Chelsea fan may have cost me a bit here lol. Unless some of them somehow haven't rostered ronny

Guessing a good general target is hope for 2.5x value of player? Decent start for marquinhos so far, ibra should have got him an assist

I picked three teams into the $25k contest, my tactic was to have four to five spots to have in play for tomorrow. Nice split of players and can use late sawap to fine tune on Wednesday.

I put Ibrahimovic on all my teams as a just in case insurance due to Chelsea make shift defence. Also playing Mitrologu the Benfica striker on all teams as he is bang on form right now.

With three teams, I have 15 midfield spots to play about with for these two day's fixtures. Strikers do not win these Draft King games like they do on Mondo. Best to decide quick on two strikers on a reasonable salary and stick with them. Same with the goalkeepers too.

That way you can fine comb the midfielders who are involved in ALL the action. Five midfielders scoring 15 plus points is at least 75 points and helps greatly to cash. If you have given the other home work time for defenders involved in ALL the action then you are almost there to cracking the game.

It was tight but managed to do all these in the past few hours. Sun Dream Team Europe - five teams there. Telegraph Champions League Fantasy - two teams. UEFA fantasy competitions. Then UCL DFS at Playon, Bet4thebest, FantasyBet, Sport Draftr and Mondogoal.

Phew, it was close all these multi-tasking. Practicse makes perfect they say for good reason. Fantasy games no different to this rule.

Great to see all these sites offering European games and diverse league competitions.

It is a shame that Mondo Salary for Champions League has gone the way of Fan Team. Making line-up's should be fun and not hustle to fit players with ridiculous salary.

My tip Sevilla to win a third record breaking successive Europa League title. Juventus to go one better and be crowned champions of Europe. Good odds out there on both these teams. Dyabla and Pogba look the eventual successors to master Messi and co at Barcelona.

If you've got ibra and mitro in all teams I'm guessing g all Dont have cr7?

Indeed Ronaldo saves his big games to bully smaller teams especially when playing at home. Away from home Benzema has been much more consistent and overall the best player this season.

Plus Roma are resurgent and on good form under their former coach who has been hired second time around. Expect them to give Madrid a good game. Fading Ronaldo can backfire but you can not win a large field tournament without doing some risk vs reward calculation.

Seems we've gone down complete opposite roads and opinions this week.

Looks that way Sir. Always good to discuss the thought process that goes into making line-up's. I am getting better at doing homework but still a long way to go before I can even say there is a significant edge gained.

Yc for defenders are so wounding. Looking at you Cristi

Di maria running it tonight, wp everyone who chose him!

Ffs near perfect night then cris gets sent off. Only him and hulk let me down tonight. Marquinhos and baba MVPs

Looks like Max might get some money back this week

As expected, William over di Maria was a leak and is going to cost me. Just thought zlatan will take all FKs anywhere near close enough range so Willian should edge it

Gonna need some miracle performances tomorrow lol

very much in the balance for me depending on tomorrow.
75.5 points with 4 to play totaling 24mil

Maybe I shouldn't be too disappointed with my 63.00 with 6 to play at around 29m salary

You do realize I usually only play one lineup every week

I am at 455th from one line up. 94.00 points in the bag and four to play. 360 player minutes remaining and should be fun the next fixtures then.

Personally I am strictly about making the lowest number of line-up's. Mostly three and at maximum five or six. Of course the DK GPP will have people with max multi-entries and up to a 100 line-up's. I have seen up to fifty line-up's on Mondo's GPP.

The fun for me lies in nailing it with the minimal outlay. Let us nail DK with minimal outlay then.

That is nice to hear and that is the fun aspect for me. Nailing it with optimal line-up if not learn from oversight and move to next game week.

But undoubtedly these large field tournaments have lots of max entrants. I call them unskilled players who try to cover most possible variations with countless combinations.

I do not touch head to head as well. I leave that to others.

It isn't necessarily + ev to multi enter . It is essentially hedging to realize your actual long term ev quicker. If you enter bad lus your roi will still be poor even if you mass enter and occasionally Bink.

Not sure why you'd consider it unskilled. It takes quite a bit of skill to manage a lot of lineups to properly weight exposures. I don't do it because I'm lazy and prizepools aren't big enough to justify hedging.

If you think it doesn't take skill go enter 20-30 lu a week in the quarter arcade and let me know how that works out for you.

I disagree, entering many LUs is a skill. Just do the math and you will figure out that it is just impossible to get all the combos possible (even the combos from a pool of players you like).

Also, a lot of top multi-enties/GPP players enter H2H or single entry contests, and win on those as well.

I personally use both strategies on Mondo. Funny thing is, a lot of the people who were loudly against multi entries are either doing quite bad or not entering the single entries competitions..Not aiming at you Garrincha (and I won't name names...)

Absolutely there is a skill and dexterity needed to manage so many line-up's. This is more of a house keeping skill and kudos to those who have it.

The skill to master events where randomness and chance plays a significant part is not easy. Best to accept that and strategise accordingly. Countless line-up's is not a skill and it is trying to see how many thrown can stick.

Let me share this true story:

"A few years ago a man won the Spanish national lottery with a ticket that ended in the number 48. Proud of his "accomplishment," he revealed the theory that brought him the riches. "I dreamed of the number 7 for seven straight nights," he said "and 7 times 7 is 48."

This story about the man's error is funny and DFS has a lot of this too. Extracting meaning from all the data, trying to be certain in a sea of uncertainty.

Hope you enjoy the story I just posted. I try not to get bogged down in one upmanship. I was just stating my preference and also very aware that uncertainty rules in life including DFS.

Just find it fascinating how different people try to tackle it. Obviously the sites are very happy campers with multi-entries they in business to make profit.

Draft11 is fun and been playing there for past two months. Single entry GPP in $ and has been very good practice to DK's game that favour scoring for all round action. You can not win there playing strikers too.

Got to give them credit for being the first US platform to go with a full licence in the UK offering football games only and with multi-league to boot. PayPal came handy too as that is what they use. So far so good in deposit and withdrawing winnings.

I now full declare that I have played across all the DFS football sites and if there is any I have not discovered I will be damned.

I don't think its 'house keeping skill' at all lol, I think you're under estimating variance by going for the 'nailing one optimal lineup'. Even if you have one single entry that wins a GPP doesn't mean that was the most optimal single lineup, its massssssively unlikely it was in fact.

I think you're showing a bit of bias toward your personal opinion and approach to the games and the people that multi entry.

Fwiw if I see any single entry tournys on DK I try and enter them, because I want to avoid as many of the people with mass entries as I assume (maybe falsely) they will have an overall higher EV than the majority of people entering just a single lineup.

BTW 94 with 4 to play is a really good score, how much $ left and what positions have you got left?

Mass entering GPPs sounds really easy until you actually try to do it. It's really hard, most people are really bad at it and it keeps the prize pools as big as they are.

I just play in most places and have fun. Focusing on minimal but hopefully optimal line-up's allows me flexibility to cover a wide range of platform's.

What do you think ? Sun Dream Team Europe - Five teams only, three phases with 2k prize and overall winner taking 25k. Or Mondo's championship with qualifiers for a top prize of 15k.

As they all had to be entered today, I spent much more time and focus on Sun Dream Team Europe. It covers Europa League too. For me this is softest prize of the year. Telegraph's champions league game has only 1k prize.

On the big Sun seasonal game, I am in the top 200 and hundred or so point behind the leaders. DFS practice makes for better seasonal player, less volatility and more long term planning, I like seasonal games a lot.

For Euro finals. One should combine Sun, Telegraph, Mondo and others. Prizes are prizes no matter where they come from.

I have 16000 left in salary for the four players. One goalie, one defence and two in flex utility positions. I can see the leaders are on 140 with either line-up complete or one player remaining left for them.