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10-31-2015 , 01:08 PM
That Kolarov missed PK sure was tilting. Cost me a decent chunk.
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10-31-2015 , 01:16 PM
That too
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10-31-2015 , 01:20 PM
**** off Kolavrov
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10-31-2015 , 01:21 PM
Ya I did quite well today. Sick part is I went abdi and cabaye in cash over ighalo and campbell. Thought abdi would take corners but it ended up being Watson.
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10-31-2015 , 02:38 PM
meh, lost a bit. disappointed since i feel like a lot of people played bad today, but few guys i thought were good plays didnt do so well
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10-31-2015 , 04:13 PM
People did play very bad today. They will adjust super quick though.
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10-31-2015 , 05:22 PM
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So frustrating when live scoring dies, hopefully they sort their servers out soon as people will start to lose interest
They need to get their act together soon. How hard it is it have a smooth running platform ? Just going about bigger prize pools & overlay is not enough.

Pressing edit on Mondo and waiting ages for team line up pages to load is very crap too.

Hence why I like the smaller DFS sites which have fun game play and also platform's that run very smoothly too. Fantasy Bet is miles ahead in this regard. Flash Mode on Fantasy Bet is is much more fun than fiddling around in other sites.
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10-31-2015 , 10:09 PM
one thing I liked about the 11 slot roster is I was totally comfortable running 1 cash lu. Normally for a Saturday EPL or Champions League I would make 2 cash lu's and make slight deviations at striker to spread my goal chances around a bit.

Don't get the feeling that 1 player scoring will make or break you to the same extent now.
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10-31-2015 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MediocrePlayer2.0
one thing I liked about the 11 slot roster is I was totally comfortable running 1 cash lu. Normally for a Saturday EPL or Champions League I would make 2 cash lu's and make slight deviations at striker to spread my goal chances around a bit.

Don't get the feeling that 1 player scoring will make or break you to the same extent now.
Ya but that goes for everyone . Less tough decisions because it's easier to get broader exposure. Changes are bad in the long run TBH. Crosses need a Nerf for starters and 8 man roster would be ideal (9 man would be okay too). 11 man also makes constructing multi lineups alot harder.

Side note, I hope max dalury didn't see changes and doesn't adjust much so I can fleece him this cl
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11-01-2015 , 11:19 AM
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Sounds good if you add rewards for higher raking players, just steal old pokerstars VIP rewards
If you're taking suggestions, I'd like an unregister option a bit like you can in Poker also. Looking forward to playing this weekend for the first time on the site, so your post has already brought in some new business.
That's really great to hear.

We already offer the ability to unjoin games if that's what you mean. To do so, follow the enter game process and select the team that you have already entered. An "unjoin game" button will then appear. However, please note that we cannot offer players the ability to unjoin limited entry and head to head games that have already filled.
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11-01-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Garrincha67
Good to see DFS platform's listening to customer's feedback, as well as getting more of us to play their games. I have played on Playon for a good season and half. The scoring is detailed and game play is good. Here is my suggestions:

1. More formation than the usual dry 4-4-2. Adding 3-5-2, 4-3-3 and 3-4-3 will make team picking much more fun. Some game week's are strictly three forward's. Game week 11 coming up is a good example.

2. Scrapping 12.45 lunch time kick off so we can see a majority of team line-up's looks a must. Or introduce late swap feature. Achilles heel of most sites including Play On is seeing game week unfold with a bunch of non-starting players and buy-in's for contest going down the drain.

3. Champions League is included this season which is a big plus. Other European league's will be great addition. Serie A, La Liga and Bundesliga at the least.

Thanks
Thanks a lot for your suggestions Garrincha. Also, great to hear that you're on the site already.

1. Formations are certainly something that we have considered and your points are valid. However we have received mixed feedback on this one. We have found that some players are happy with the standardisation of formations. It removes a few more variables, which reduces the time taken to pick teams, and can make the process less daunting for casual players. Also, we will be adding more sports over the coming months and we feel that (to a point) the product should remain uniform as between those sports. However, we are not completely married to any one policy in this regard and if it becomes clear that there is an overwhelming demand for it, we will adapt.

2. We agree that this is a major issue at the moment in DFF and that it is the source of much frustration. We do offer a daily game on Saturday that excludes the 12.45, which hopefully helps somewhat. However it is hard to strike a balance. The primary issue with removing it for all games - and with a late swap feature - is that in order to remain competitive, players will be required to actively manage their teams over the course of the weekend, rather than just picking their team when they have time during the week. At the moment we take the view that this would act as a deterrent for casual players - which should arguably be considered the most important group by all industry stakeholders at present. So an argument can be made that researching lineups and predicting starters is just part of the game/skillt. Once again though, we are always open to being proved wrong.

3. Unfortunately I can't put an exact date on when we'll be in a position to offer these leagues. However, I assure you that they are part of our plans.

Thanks again for your suggestions and please do keep them coming. If there's enough support for an idea we'll certainly do our best to accommodate it.
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11-01-2015 , 06:18 PM
Forget about "the burden of managing your team throughout the weekend."
It's simply a non issue. Without the ability to edit late, it feels like a bingo sometimes, although it's more a problem in other sports (NBA for instance). Still though, I don't think anyone will be bothered by having the option to swap late.
If you don't feel like it, just set your lineup and forget about it. Seriously, it's a non-issue.
There's really nothing to be gained from locking lineups super early.

Just my two cents.
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11-01-2015 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by heh
Forget about "the burden of managing your team throughout the weekend."
It's simply a non issue. Without the ability to edit late, it feels like a bingo sometimes, although it's more a problem in other sports (NBA for instance). Still though, I don't think anyone will be bothered by having the option to swap late.
If you don't feel like it, just set your lineup and forget about it. Seriously, it's a non-issue.
There's really nothing to be gained from locking lineups super early.

Just my two cents.
You may well be right and I have no doubt that the question will be answered when more meaningful statistical analysis can be performed.

But do you not think that it is possible that a typical office worker who plays casually and picks his team on a Wednesday might be put off playing for cash if he feels that his chances are significantly reduced by not being online an hour before the matches kick off?
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11-01-2015 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PlayON
You may well be right and I have no doubt that the question will be answered when more meaningful statistical analysis can be performed.

But do you not think that it is possible that a typical office worker who plays casually and picks his team on a Wednesday might be put off playing for cash if he feels that his chances are significantly reduced by not being online an hour before the matches kick off?
Not at all. There's heavy action from both regulars and non-regs on Draftkings. I think that site is living proof that no one is discouraged by playing with late swaps.
I've quit playing on FD precisely because they don't offer that feature and I don't feel like playing bingo.
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11-01-2015 , 06:57 PM
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Not at all. There's heavy action from both regulars and non-regs on Draftkings. I think that site is living proof that no one is discouraged by playing with late swaps.
I've quit playing on FD precisely because they don't offer that feature and I don't feel like playing bingo.
The only thing I would say to that is that DK have been operating in a largely sportsbook-free and fantasy-friendly environment. There's no guarantee that what works in the US will work in the UK.

But again, your points are valid. We might very well decide to introduce a late swap or something similar in the future.
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11-01-2015 , 07:09 PM
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The only thing I would say to that is that DK have been operating in a largely sportsbook-free and fantasy-friendly environment. There's no guarantee that what works in the US will work in the UK.

But again, your points are valid. We might very well decide to introduce a late swap or something similar in the future.
I agree that the environments are different, but I think the fact that DK is taking over a tightly contested market is proof that it at least doesn't hurt to have late swap.
And they have a lot of randoms playing who don't seem to mind. Anyway, I don't see the downside, but see a lot of upside, granted it favors people who play a lot/for a living, but those people pay a lot of rake.
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11-01-2015 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PlayON
The only thing I would say to that is that DK have been operating in a largely sportsbook-free and fantasy-friendly environment. There's no guarantee that what works in the US will work in the UK.

But again, your points are valid. We might very well decide to introduce a late swap or something similar in the future.
Non sense. Dfs will be massive. Why? Gpps. People are obsessed with hitting it big for a low price. Once dk opens in the UK if they advertise correctly they'll easily have 500k-1m prize pool contests within the year.

Also late swap is a must. I basically wouldn't play on any site with out it, only reason I play on mondogoal is because of overlay, and their previously better scoring. Dks scoring has passed mg (save for crosses needing a Nerf).
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11-01-2015 , 08:46 PM
I mean the fantasy culture already existed here and it's much less significant over there, but DFS will still catch on there. Especially if DK does in fact allow UK players to play in the same contests as us.
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11-01-2015 , 10:24 PM
There's been a long tradition of season long fantasy games in soccer in most of Europe. It's not as ingrained as US, obviously, but plenty of tradition for playing fantasy anyway.
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11-01-2015 , 10:25 PM
Been absolutely Smashing old t lately. Feels good because he'd been running like God previously and has some definite leaks in cash.
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11-01-2015 , 11:26 PM
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Non sense. Dfs will be massive. Why? Gpps. People are obsessed with hitting it big for a low price. Once dk opens in the UK if they advertise correctly they'll easily have 500k-1m prize pool contests within the year.

Also late swap is a must. I basically wouldn't play on any site with out it, only reason I play on mondogoal is because of overlay, and their previously better scoring. Dks scoring has passed mg (save for crosses needing a Nerf).
I guess the question is will all the donks who bet a 5'r on "random defender to score first + 1-0" to get 50:1 parlay or whatever want to play DFS.

On the one hand, UK'rs are degens. On the other hand, they're already used to walking into a bookie and filling out a slip for some ridiculous parlay. They really want to fill out 11 man rosters?
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11-01-2015 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MediocrePlayer2.0
I guess the question is will all the donks who bet a 5'r on "random defender to score first + 1-0" to get 50:1 parlay or whatever want to play DFS.

On the one hand, UK'rs are degens. On the other hand, they're already used to walking into a bookie and filling out a slip for some ridiculous parlay. They really want to fill out 11 man rosters?
If the money is there, they will come.
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11-02-2015 , 12:09 AM
Not gonna lie, im kinda pissed that turd ibasso gonna win the MLS cup VIP package. Had melano not laid such a turd could of prob shipped it.
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11-02-2015 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MediocrePlayer2.0
I guess the question is will all the donks who bet a 5'r on "random defender to score first + 1-0" to get 50:1 parlay or whatever want to play DFS.

On the one hand, UK'rs are degens. On the other hand, they're already used to walking into a bookie and filling out a slip for some ridiculous parlay. They really want to fill out 11 man rosters?
I was going to make a very similar point (although perhaps in more PC terms)! The advantage that the accumulator/parlay has over DFS (with a late swap) is that the accumulator involves no further action. It is frozen in time and is not influenced by the activities of more skilled betters.

I think it's fair to say that a late swap favours the more skilled players, so its not surprising that there's a lot of support for it on these boards. However, DFS is a nascent industry and we need to consider its long-term health as it matures. If the casual players churn then the skilled players' edge is eroded. Arguably we should be looking at more ways of protecting those casual players rather than the other way around.

DK are the largest DFS site for a variety of reasons - most obviously because they have been spending the most money. But just because they are the largest site and also have a late swap doesn't necessarily mean it is optimal.
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11-02-2015 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by heh
Forget about "the burden of managing your team throughout the weekend."
It's simply a non issue. Without the ability to edit late, it feels like a bingo sometimes, although it's more a problem in other sports (NBA for instance). Still though, I don't think anyone will be bothered by having the option to swap late.
If you don't feel like it, just set your lineup and forget about it. Seriously, it's a non-issue.
There's really nothing to be gained from locking lineups super early.

Just my two cents.
Like to voice my opinion of the complete opposite of this to PlayOn. I think that that it is deffo not like bingo, and that you can put a probability on players starting, which you should use to make your decisions. For example maybe Rose of Spurs is a really good player when he starts, with higher expectation than Dier, but you aren't certain that Rose will start with Davies contending for LB, while Dier looks more nailed on.
Got to decide do you play it safe or do you go with a player with higher potential but also less safety.
I like it as is, deffo no late subs or anything, even though yes they would help me as I watch all games etc it just makes it too unfair on the recreational as mentioned who don't put in as much time.
Also if we're allowed to contribute about scoring on PlayOn, the points for a cleansheet there are so low its crazy, I understand that you get very punished for each goal conceded which can make it relatively a bigger swing, but compare to tackles, interceptions etc I think 270points is just too low for a cleanie.
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