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10-04-2014 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dawade
Everything but a goal/assist from Kolarov that half.

Pressing forward on nearly every run. Deadly accuracy on his crosses and nearly found the net a few times on his own.
Kolarov is highest rated defender in my model. Must have if starting but for some reason they play clichy more. Gonna be a rough weekend if I dont make the right picks for tomorrow swans and leicester d murdered me.
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10-04-2014 , 02:34 PM
City clean sheet and milner's assist helped me a bit. I will still need pts from the big guns tomorrow.
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10-04-2014 , 03:12 PM
just hoping to survive this week. the high ownership of leicester and swansea g/def will help mitigate it, but that sucked a lot

actually in 6th in the $27 but have no players left, hope I at least stay top 30 for decent cash and help keep the week together
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10-04-2014 , 03:42 PM
I actually had a lu with my predictive model that would of completely crushed but was completely disjointed. Had Wickham aguero bony mahrez tadic kolorav robertson. Gk was close between hart/fabiabski
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10-04-2014 , 03:45 PM
I think it may be best to completely avoid any mf above 8k maybe even above 7.5k crossbots/setpiece duty sub 5ks arw so much more reliable pt generators. Just spend all on luxury forwards and premium defenders.
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10-04-2014 , 03:56 PM
I think from now on im going to wait to.build my lineups till when lus come out. Spend the week getting a list of the players I like then building based off that. Had I done that this week I would of been in much better shape as I would have way more.mahrez and he would have been paired with bony/sig. Sadly when I already have lu build and then realize therea a budget player I want to fit in it becomes overwhelming to completely overhaul built lu vs building from scratch around the players I want.
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10-04-2014 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckSauce
I think it may be best to completely avoid any mf above 8k maybe even above 7.5k crossbots/setpiece duty sub 5ks arw so much more reliable pt generators. Just spend all on luxury forwards and premium defenders.
Hmmmm. I've got Di Maria going in 1LU and Falcao/Mata going in another.

Really need solid, consistent points in 1st LU, too.
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10-04-2014 , 04:28 PM
Diame cost only 3400, he was less than 1% owned. I had him in a couple of my lineups, but not alongside sigurdson. We are all aware of the good players. The hardest part and where a little bit of luck helps is putting the most effective players together in one team.
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10-04-2014 , 04:31 PM
Just seems like it is harder for mf to have massive pt hauls. To compete in gpps you need to be getting 3x to want to win really, I just dont see mfers being able to put up 24+ pts often enough where as strikers are much more likely to score or be involved in goals.

I mean how many mfs have had more than 25pt hauls? How many forwards have? Way more fwds im guessing, and all the mfers that have had massive days seem to be the really cheap ones.

That leads me to believe you can get away with spending super cheap in the mf and spending big up front is the way to go.
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10-04-2014 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckSauce
I think it may be best to completely avoid any mf above 8k maybe even above 7.5k crossbots/setpiece duty sub 5ks arw so much more reliable pt generators. Just spend all on luxury forwards and premium defenders.
Yep I think I'm going with this too. My throw in lineup went heavy on defenders (Baines, Kolarov) and went with your value play in M and my value play at F which didn't work out. So I think you're right. I also think being well under the cap could be a good thing too as it gives you a lot of variance.

It should be noted however that this was a bit of a strange week, where 4 of the 7 big dogs played each other and 2 others were on the road in somewhat difficult matchups. When City plays home to pretty much anyone outside top 6, I think its more feasible to go value plays and load up on City guys as an example
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10-04-2014 , 04:38 PM
Now having said that, for tomorrow I am in an incredible position for the big comp, and have all heavyweights playing. Is Di Maria AND Mata too much Utd MF coverage? (Have Falcao in attack too) Better option or YOLO? I think if I was chasing points it might make sense to swap them out, but being in drivers seat should probably roll with it
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10-04-2014 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Now having said that, for tomorrow I am in an incredible position for the big comp, and have all heavyweights playing. Is Di Maria AND Mata too much Utd MF coverage? (Have Falcao in attack too) Better option or YOLO? I think if I was chasing points it might make sense to swap them out, but being in drivers seat should probably roll with it
If your in the lead you should hold both since they will be heavy owned so you can risk dropping one and them going off. If you were trailing and need a differntial you should snap drop di maria. This is basically a blocking strat where you make sure you play the popular players so ppl cant catch up even if they do well. Theyll need to go for riskier plays and hope to fade pipular players to catch up. Im basically forced to stack sanchez/welbeck and lukaku/mcgeady in one team because if I take manu or chelsea players the ppl ahead of me will have them already so even if they do well I cant catch up. Ill still have them in one lu just so I can make sure to cash and not totally risk a bust out weekend chasing too hard.
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10-04-2014 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckSauce
If your in the lead you should hold both since they will be heavy owned so you can risk dropping one and them going off. If you were trailing and need a differntial you should snap drop di maria.
My thinking exactly. Worst case scenario I cash small this thing, but I have a legit shot at a top 5 finish I think. And I basically have free pick of who to use tomorrow without money being an issue. I'd also kick myself for dropping the wrong one and him going off.

I also like what you said about basically favoring all set piece takers. The way this is set up there are 3-5 points extra a game in FKs in seems
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10-04-2014 , 04:55 PM
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My thinking exactly. Worst case scenario I cash small this thing, but I have a legit shot at a top 5 finish I think. And I basically have free pick of who to use tomorrow without money being an issue. I'd also kick myself for dropping the wrong one and him going off.

I also like what you said about basically favoring all set piece takers. The way this is set up there are 3-5 points extra a game in FKs in seems
Look at milner he prob got 12+ pts just from crossing and corners and he cost less than 5k iirc. Its why willian/schurrle are so valuable since if chelsea is in siege mode they just turn into cross bots where as if they are bus parking they are less valuable. Need to do more research to see what side teams favor for attacking.
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10-04-2014 , 05:01 PM
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If your in the lead you should hold both since they will be heavy owned so you can risk dropping one and them going off. If you were trailing and need a differntial you should snap drop di maria. This is basically a blocking strat where you make sure you play the popular players so ppl cant catch up even if they do well. Theyll need to go for riskier plays and hope to fade pipular players to catch up. Im basically forced to stack sanchez/welbeck and lukaku/mcgeady in one team because if I take manu or chelsea players the ppl ahead of me will have them already so even if they do well I cant catch up. Ill still have them in one lu just so I can make sure to cash and not totally risk a bust out weekend chasing too hard.


Got my lineups mixed up too. I actually have Costa not Falcao in my good lineup, so that's probably even better
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10-04-2014 , 05:02 PM
Milner had 14c. Finding good value in midfield is key and also knowing who the set piece takers are either from midfield or defense is impt as well. Trippier racked up a lot of pts from corners and crosses.

Last edited by gunner09; 10-04-2014 at 05:12 PM.
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10-04-2014 , 06:54 PM
Think im gonna yolo my lineup with 40 pts and 4 players 1m 3f. Try and nail sep multi goal scorers from each game and fade chelsea manu. Only chance of a big score. Going safe in my other line ups with 2 3 and 1 player left with 49 44 and 75 respectively. Wazzu you might be able to shed some light on the strat. Do you prefer to fade favorites and get lucky with spreading out your picks if you are behind to make a big score? Or follow the pack to salvage poor weekend and try to breakeven with mincashes
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10-04-2014 , 08:30 PM
I guess it depends. Late swapping is sort of unique in soccer in that we are presented with a lot more opportunities to manipulate our lineup than we are in other sports. If you had a lineup in a GPP that you felt had a strong chance to cash with more 'chalk' plays, I'd probably take it in most cases. If a lineup is going to require that Naismith or some lesser owned player score a hat trick for you to hit the top of the leader board, it's probably better to go safe.

That said, if you think a lineup has a legit shot to win and you aren't just lighting EV on fire, all for going for all the marbles.
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10-04-2014 , 11:06 PM
So, for instance, if I'm ahead in most of my L1 games, I should keep a popular pick to block opponents from catching?

Whereas, in L2 where I'm trailing and/or currently min cashing (and opponents still have several guys to play), I should chase points?
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10-04-2014 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wAzZu24
I guess it depends. Late swapping is sort of unique in soccer in that we are presented with a lot more opportunities to manipulate our lineup than we are in other sports. If you had a lineup in a GPP that you felt had a strong chance to cash with more 'chalk' plays, I'd probably take it in most cases. If a lineup is going to require that Naismith or some lesser owned player score a hat trick for you to hit the top of the leader board, it's probably better to go safe.

That said, if you think a lineup has a legit shot to win and you aren't just lighting EV on fire, all for going for all the marbles.
39 pts 4 players 31k so id prob need like 20-25 per to get high enough. Dunno if it's possible or not.

Thinking maybe -
M Willian 0 swap out
F Romelu Lukaku 0 swap out
F Alexis Sánchez 0 swap out
FLEX Dusan Tadic 0 swap out

Or

Mcgeady + Lukaku
Sanchez + Welbeck

Not sure if there will be enough goals in soton/spurs.
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10-04-2014 , 11:39 PM
M M. Schneiderlin SHN@TOT $5,900 swap out
F Romelu Lukaku EVE@MAN $9,100 swap out
F A. Oxlade-Cha... ARS@CHE $5,900 swap out
FLEX Eden Hazard ARS@CHE $8,200 swap out


Might be the most contrarian of the mix?

Or

M Aiden McGeady EVE@MAN $4,200 swap out
F Harry Kane SHN@TOT $5,200 swap out
F A. Oxlade-Cha... ARS@CHE $5,900 swap out
FLEX M. Schneiderlin SHN@TOT $5,900

with 10k left over lol.
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10-04-2014 , 11:40 PM
I think What I'll do is start mcgeady or atsu. Based off if I get a big point haul or not I can adjust and play it safe or go full yolo swag.

Worst case I role with a safer lineup like:
M Aiden McGeady 0 swap out
F Diego Costa 0 swap out
F Danny Welbeck 0 swap out
FLEX Sadio Mane 0 swap out
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10-05-2014 , 07:26 AM
Di Maria goal, Mata assist! Boom!
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10-05-2014 , 07:32 AM
Mata not doing much else though, pointswise
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10-05-2014 , 07:37 AM
I feel like Baines isn't getting credit for crosses. What constitutes a cross exactly? He's had at least 2 legit crosses that haven't been registered. This scoring is pretty arbitrary once you are sweating a game and actually watching for certain scorepoints
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