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Old 11-19-2019, 02:16 PM   #26
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

Wasn't even sure he took a snap. We can go to a third party arbiter if necessary if he doesn't happen to sit out a game before the end of the season. WW has already said in a PM it counts as a game played.
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Old 11-29-2019, 04:27 AM   #27
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I've got no dog in this fight but if he took snaps, then he clearly played and it counts.

It's murkier if he is active but never gets on the field even once.
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Old 11-29-2019, 04:37 AM   #28
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yeah, i'm happy to see how it plays out, no reason to worry about it too much if he sprains his ankle and goes on the IR or gets shut down in week 17 or whatever
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Old 12-09-2019, 04:44 PM   #29
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

Week #14 Update

David Johnson: 140.2 *Missed two games*

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Kerryon: 71.7 *Bet OFF* Season Ending IR
Cook: 310.1
Bell: 178.2 *Missed one game*

rickroll's sweats
Mixon: 176.9
Chubb: 252.7
Fournette: 255.1
Conner: 132.2 *Bet OFF* *Missed five games*
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:25 AM   #30
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

fml... let's go sprained ankle or birth of child one time
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:04 PM   #31
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

Conner could still theoretically beat him if he can play just one more game!
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Old 12-16-2019, 12:52 PM   #32
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

Looks like we are on straight up inactive watch for David Johnson to determine this bet. Drake had 4 TDs yesterday! And James Conner, even though he is DQed, passed David Johnson in points with his return yesterday. Cook got injured yesterday but hasn't missed a game yet, so he will qualify.

Week #15 Update

David Johnson: 140.8 *Missed two games*

waterwolves sweats
Kerryon: 71.7 *Bet OFF* Season Ending IR
Cook: 317.4
Bell: 189.0 *Missed one game*

rickroll's sweats
Mixon: 200.5
Chubb: 281.5
Fournette: 267.4
Conner: 147.3 *Bet OFF* *Missed five games*
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Old 12-16-2019, 02:29 PM   #33
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

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Old 01-02-2020, 01:06 AM   #34
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Been googling it daily, finally found a week 17 snap count https://www.google.com/amp/s/cardswi...ervations/amp/

David Johnson didn't see the field.

This means bets are void yes?
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Old 01-02-2020, 02:12 AM   #35
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

He was active, but yes he didn't play a snap. Not sure the correct answer.

I would obv prefer to go to an arbiter instead of agreeing not playing while active = game missed. Especially when the spirit of the missing greater than 2 games was injury related and not suckiness.
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Old 01-02-2020, 02:31 AM   #36
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Yeah it's a weird situation. For what it's worth I wouldn't be surprised if we find out there was some kind of lingering injury or kawhi type situation because what went down was unprecedented.

I'm fine with getting an arbiter. I'm ok with you suggesting one because I wouldn't know where to start.
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Old 01-02-2020, 11:35 AM   #37
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waterwolves, any opinion?
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Old 01-02-2020, 04:32 PM   #38
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It was injury related imo. There's a couple reasons why I think that. Let me get back to my desk and I'll post my thoughts.

I don't need an arbitrator though. If after reading my post and thinking about it you still feel you won the bet I'm more than happy to ship the money. You've always been straight with me.
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Old 01-02-2020, 05:09 PM   #39
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Two things here.

1) Through week 6 David Johnson was on pace for 80 catches 1600 total yards and 13 TDs. That's a 319 point season. If Cook stayed healthy he would have beat that but that would have put DJ at RB3. That's also assuming DJ wouldn't have had those huge games Edmonds and Drake had for AZ if he was healthy. A big assumption either way but something none of us can really prove. If he has those big games he beats Cook too. If he doesn't and plays like he did week 1-6 he's RB3.


2) Here's a link where Kingsbury admits DJ wasn't healthy.


https://arizonasports.com/story/2127...hnsons-injury/

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“David’s a warrior,” Kingsbury said. “We wanted to see and he wanted to see if he could go. After the first few plays, it didn’t feel right and we knew he didn’t look right so we got him out. He was still in an emergency position for us because that’s all we had.”

Even taking week 17 out of it, if I was in your shoes, I would still void the bet. We put that stipulation in to protect us from injury deciding this. The karma Gods found away around it lol. He didn't look right all year but really after the ankle and back injuries he wasn't even running hard towards the LOS.

I don't know how anybody can say injury didn't play a roll in the season DJ had.
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Old 01-06-2020, 07:07 AM   #40
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I'm more than happy to ship the money. You've always been straight with me.
I feel the same way.

This has actually been weighing on me a little bit as I'm very worried you may think I'm trying to freeroll you.
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Old 01-06-2020, 12:02 PM   #41
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Yes, I am always worried about being too kind and letting people take advantage of me. Not saying that is happening here, but my friends who aren't from the gambling/poker world always seem to be trying to take little annoying shots that are tiring to deal with.

I think that if this happened to like Joe Mixon or whatever, it would be overlooked and not handled the same way.

I have been delaying hoping that word would come out about some procedure he was undergoing early in the off season and I could agree with you.

I am 50/50 on this, since he got touches in all games except the last. If Chase Edmonds had been healthy, would Johnson have been scratched from some games? Or was the new coaching staff just really unhappy with Johnson and really preferred Drake, which is why he saw little to no touches?

If it was a) then it should be nullified. If it was b) then I should win. How do we know?
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:33 PM   #42
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Re: Rickroll's 2+2 football friendly wagers

Eh, posting here for memory.

$50 bet with Rickroll.

I win if < 50 regular season games played on average per MLB team in 2020.
Rickroll wins if > 50 regular season games played on average.
49.5 to 50.5 average are a push.

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Old 06-30-2020, 04:38 AM   #43
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good idea
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