Honestly I like it. You'll fix WR


It's a playoff team, but it's bit old. You need to run good and you can do something there. But you have a lot of broken bodies there.

I won this league last year, and when I posted the draft here people really hated it. I used the same strategy again this year. It has 2 keepers, mine were Kamara with a 9 and Hogan with an 8.

12 man PPR, 2RB, 2WR, Flex, 4 pt passing TD's, order will be weird given the other keepers:

Out of the final slot:

12. Michael Thomas
13. Gronk
36. Allen Robinson
37. Sony Michel (could be early, dunno)
60. Tom Brady
61. Carson
84. Nick Chubb
85. Chris Hogan
108. Kamara
109. Guice
132. Goff
133. Cobb
156. Ricky Seals Jones
157. Baltimore
180. Calvin Ridley

I think I'll compete this year and obviously next with 2 keepers in there somewhere. Won't be much debate on who to start week to week.

Ben in 6 and Houston D in 9 are just horrendous picks. I'm also quite down on Olsen this year relative to the consensus, but if he lives up to expectations and Davis breaks you could still contend. Will prob need to score a solid rb3 on the wire at some point too. But having a top 3 pick just gives you such a huge advantage, you can make some mistakes and still make things happen.

Good luck!

I think Bell is a bit more risky this year. He had 430 touches last year and 400 the year before and had a large drop off in efficiency last year. The heavy usage over the last couple should put him at higher risk of injury as well keep his efficiency down and possibly lead to being spelled by Connor more.

they won't spell him. They'll run him into the ground and not even make him an offer in the offseason.

yeah don't like Olsen in the 5th and Ben/Houston picks were huge punts but other than that I like the team.

Did another 12 man, can't get away from the Emmanuel/Rex combo; all of my teams very similar so far. Got sniped on a few WRs I wanted... very deep at RB though:

Drafted from the 12 slot:
1. Melvin Gordon
2. Leonard Fournette
3. T.Y. Hilton
4. Jarvis Landry
5. Rex Burkhead
6. Emmanuel Sanders
7. Trey Burton
8. Jamaal Williams
9. Tyler Lockett
10. Adrian Peterson
11. Bilal Powell
12. Corey Clement
13. Kenny Golladay
14. Matthew Stafford
15. Pittsburgh D
16. Will Lutz

QB: Stafford
RB: M Gordon, Fournette, J Williams, Burkhead, Peterson, Powell, Clement
WR: Hilton, Landry, Sanders, Lockett, Golladay
TE: Burton
K: Lutz
DEF: Pitt

Hated my spot (8th pick) as I really wanted a top 6 RB but had to settle for Hopkins first. Very high scoring league with 10 skill players starting rather than the usual 7.

10 Teams
2 QB/3 WR/2RB/2 FLEX/TE/DEF/K 5 bench
6 point passing TDs and full point PPR

1. DeAndre Hopkins (Hou - WR) Considered Gordon/ODB/Julio
2. Kareem Hunt (KC - RB) Best avail and like the Reid role for him but schedule is tough and d sucks so may be playing catch up a lot
3. Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR) I like him in this spot for lots of catches despite age
4. Stefon Diggs (Min - WR) think he is a steal at this point
5. Lamar Miller (Hou - RB) I really like him at this spot too
6. Philip Rivers (LAC - QB) Wanted to wait another round before I went QB1 but every guy I was hoping to fall to me didn't and I think Rivers outstanding in this format plus 10 QBs already gone
7. Royce Freeman (Den - RB) Uhg. Not in love with this one but no really decent RB availability he could be good if they realize Booker sucks
8. Jamison Crowder (Was - WR) Decent value at this spot
9. Trey Burton (Chi - TE) Maybe a reach but I am buying the hype and as a Bears fan I needed at least one of them
10. Derek Carr (Oak - QB) Really wanted A. Smith at this spot and of course he went just before this pick but QB was starting to get real thin
11. Sterling Shepard (NYG - WR) I think this is outstanding value
12. James White (NE - RB) Uhg again! All of my mid/late tier RBs got swooped in the last round. Hopefully he carves out a decent enough pass catching role for bye weeks
13. Andy Dalton (Cin - QB) Like him a lot as a QB3 and will start week one against the lol Colts
14. Giovani Bernard (Cin - RB) really nothing much here other than handcuffs and longshots and if Mixon goes down who knows? Besides he will have a decent enough 3rd down pass catching role
15. John Ross (Cin - WR) Lotto ticket still plenty of rosterable WRs undrafted
16. New Orleans (NO - DEF) Like this def anyway but love the TB week one matchup
17. Matt Prater (Det - K) Kicker with decent track record in a dome

Love my WRs and TE and think my QB situation is good enough. If Hunt doesn't regress too much and Miller gets the action I think he will my starting RBs are okay but the bench RBs definitely lacking and I am an RB depth fanatic. Will likely use WRs in my flex spots. Hope to be able o get some more RB depth from wire once we see how things shake out and injuries start to take their toll.

I'm not totally in love with starting RB/RB in 12 team (though depends somewhat on the settings), and Hilton worries me a bit, but overall I love what you did. What WRs were you picking between in 3/4? I assume it is ppr if you picked Landry there, right?

Rounds 5-16 looks pretty ideal to me. I'm a fellow Burkhead/Sanders groupie, and have a huge amount of Williams and Lockett shares as well, so hopefully this team crushes

Fitz over Diggs seems bad to me, but you got them both so great work!

Miller is another guy I seem to have everywhere so hopefully he comes through.

Like the Rivers, Freeman and Burton picks. I'm kinda meh on Crowder, Carr and Shep, but White pick seems fine and the triple Bengals all seem like good value too.

Good job imo, good luck!

I think I don't go Rivers there myself given where Carr, Luck, Goff and a few others tend to go. I think you stole Freeman where you got him. Also in that format I would never ever ever ever ever draft a kicker. You have so many skill positions, I'd be looking to fill kicker maybe as late as the Sunday night game or something. Play your lotto tickets because you dress so many guys and have such deep benches.

Picking at the ends of rounds like this (8th) it is sometimes difficult in 2 QB leagues to not just take a QB for the sake of taking QBs. I waited longer than anyone else and I always like to have 3 legit starting QBs. If what I wanted was there I would have waited another round before taking my first one but I like Rivers over a lot of guys.

I could see taking Goff over Rivers, but Luck looks like he may have lost a lot of arm strength and Carr has never really been that good.

Yes full ppr.

Round 1/2 I had these available: Melvin, Fournette, Hunt, M Thomas, Keenan, Gronk, Cook so with the top 4 WRs all gone I was okay going RB/RB even though usually I’d like to avoid it

Round 3/4 diggs went 1 pick before me ; WRs available: Hilton, Landry, Cooper, Josh Gordon, Tate, M Jones, D Thomas, Cooks so this one felt like a no-brainer (I really wanted diggs; both Kelce and Ertz were gone also)

& yeah very happy with 5-16 even though I missed on Agholor and John brown. Love Rex, sanders and Jamaal. I did take Trey Burton over Kyle Rudolph which I thought was close but happy w my decision

Hard to fault any of those first 4 picks given what was there. I mighta been tempted by Cooper, but in full ppr Landry is prob the way to go. Shame you got sniped on Diggs thought, that would've been sweet

Ya I have Landry > cooper in ppr for sure so wasn’t really a consideration.

IDK, I feel like Cooper in the 4th round is a potential league winner, while Landry is just a safe middling WR2.
I realize Cooper burned everyone last year, but I'm expecting a big time bounce back, and a guy like Landry doesn't have anywhere near his blowup potential. Im all over Amari this year when hes available after pick ~30



On another note, what are you guys doing with Cobb?
Ive avoided him for the most part but ended up with him as my WR5 in the 12th on one team. Is he even worth keep around over undrafted WRs like Godwin, Meredith, or Lockett?

any feedback appreciated.

ppr
2rb
2wr
flex

Like a lot of what team 1 did besides handcuffing both of their own RBs and picking Hilton over Diggs (and Evans too if they aren’t as high on Diggs as I am).

any other teams u like? which teams did the worst?

2 looks fine. Not sure what 3 and 4 were doing in rd 2 unless there are extra points for TE receptions or something, 4 in particular made a lot of poor picks, Bell will cover up a lot, but not that much. 5 coulda been reasonable without the Crabtree pick, still not bad. 6 didn't start terrible, though pairing up Kamara/Thomas seems unoptimal, but turned into a **** show soon after. 7 has a solid starting lineup once Edleman comes back, but terrible depth. 8 would be a lot better if it wasn't ppr. Don't like 9's 4/5 combo, not that they're bad, just poor value/had better options but turned out ok other than that and passing on a QB for a random lol kicker. 10 is meh, not too bad I guess. 11 is full of question marks. 12 seems to alternate between good picks and wtf picks, but if Gordon hits and Luck is reasonable, they could be pretty damn good.

Worst team is prob 3 I suppose. Best is 1. 2 is solid too. Highest upside is 12.

Drafted a league from here last night, full PPR, six for passing TD, start 2RB, 3WR, flex and a superflex. Was in the 4/12 spot which I like as I get one of the top 3 RB's or Rodgers, but then I get thoroughly confused what to do after that as an anticipated QB run before my second pick didn't happen and another isn't taken until round 4, where five go before my pick - will list who the next three picks were and any notes:

1.04 - Aaron Rodgers (Zeke, Brown, Kamara)
2.09 - Rob Gronkowski (Hilton, Evans, Thielen)
3.04 - Jordan Howard (Diggs, Fitz, Baldwin - Mixon/Freeman/Hill went just before which was annoying)
4.09 - Andrew Luck (Landry, DThomas, Hogan)
5.04 - Derrick Henry (Gordon, Ajayi, Lewis)
6.09 - Marquise Goodwin (Jeffrey, Stafford, Sanders)
7.04 - Sammy Watkins (Hyde, Kerryon Johnson, Big Rape)
8.09 - Chris Thompson (Mariota, Walker, Carson)
9.04 - Julian Edelman (Garcon, Njoku, Reed)
10.09 - Dak Prescott (Penny, Crowell, Keenum - should have taken Crowell I think)
11.04 - Keelan Cole (Lockett, CJ Anderson, Benjamin)
12.09 - Gio Bernard (Darnold, Clement, Tannehill)
13.04 - Chris Godwin (Rams, Murray, Doctson)
14.09 - Alfred Morris (Westbrook, Montgomery, Riddick)
15.04 - Stealers D (Ekeler, John Brown, Foreman)
16.09 - Lamar Jackson (Pats, Allison, Clay)

I guess I hope for a Flacbert injury and then trade to address that my RB/WR's suck? Really wasn't sure what to do after the draft went a completely different way to what I expected

lol i was 9 and timed out on the kicker pick obv.
i really really wanted deshon probably should have reached for him but thought he might make it back to me.

im actually thinking of picking up alice smith as his schedule is incredibly soft.
curious who you would have taken over tate n anderson?

i was really torn between tate n juju but tate is #1 option on a team that sucks at running and has a really soft schedule for passing and juju has to compete with brown n bell. def take juju in best ball but still not sure what right move was.
i also really wanted manny sanders but felt like too big of a reach.

silva really sold me on bilal so grabbed him n didn't really want ajayi but when he fell that far seemed like i had to take him.

fuller seemed like home run potential and tyrell felt like insurance for keenan but really wish I hadnt gotten sniped on cole.

merideth was a panick pick as was about to time out.

any specific advice u could give me on what I could have done better greatly appreciated have a few more drafts next week.

thanks so much.

I know I'm lower on Tate than most, I just have his upside being quite low (though def good floor), and I think Golladay will absorb some of his productivity. Also don't think he is a clear cut #1 option on his team, more of a co-#1 with Jones. Not the kind of guy I wanna spend a 4th rounder on. I'd take Arob/Hogan/Cooks/JuJu/DT ahead of him and Jones and Sanders are close.

On second look I guess the Anderson pick wasn't that bad, but it just looks bad given the WRs taken before him that round. You really got screwed there Only available WR I have ahead of him there is Watkins, but not by much and I'm fine with going Anderson over Watkins. I probably end up going Ajayi there and you got him anyway so :shrug:

Engram pick great, Fuller/Duke/Bilal all fine. Prefer guys like Gallup/Enunwa/Miller to your Meredith/Hurns picks. Prefer John Ross (or even Doctson/Allison/Parker) to Tyrell (and cuffing your own RB's is bad enough...cuffing your own WR's is just lol, though admittedly Tyrell is more than just a pure handcuff). Sucks you timed out, seems like you would've had QB sorted perfectly by getting Jimmy G or Mahomes in 14. Getting both of them in 13/14 instead of a 7th WR and a lol kicker would've been a solid strat as well imo.

Good luck!

I think its more important to look at Tate's role in the offense than his spot on the depth chart. He is the slot for a team that loves to throw short passes and Golladay is going to cut into that role. Golladay will cut into Jones' stats much more than Tate's because they have similar roles. Tate's week to week consistency is also valuable in a head to head format and he will have less week to week variance than any of the other receivers you listed.

The higher floor is more important when the payout structure is more weighted towards doing well in the playoffs. So unless a player has a shot finishing in like the top five receivers (Arob and Cooks probably the only two of the listed players that might fit this criteria) I think going after the high floor low variance player is best. All the alternate WRs you listed would make good picks as well and it is probably pretty close, I think Tate was the best choice.

Yeah, entirely possible I underrate Tate a bit, esp in PPR (which I try to avoid like the plague). I think you and I just fundamentally differ on the value of ceiling vs. floor though. I'll readily admit that, if anything, I overvalue ceiling, but to win leagues I think the best strat is usually to embrace variance vs going out of your way to attempt to mitigate it. And I would def say the opposite of you in that the more the payout structure is weighted towards doing well in the playoffs, the less important floor is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯