DontDoItPls' option C (no cost first year, 50% cost every year after) is the best keeper option suggested thus far.

I'll be an alternate if someone doesn't pay. PM if needed.

I kinda like this option as well. And when it gets down to 1st rd, it will be your 1st rd pick every year after that.

Are we doing waivers each week by standings or rotating on who did the last waiver? In the league settings it looks like it is set on standings:

Order Resets each week to inverse order of standings

The way you describe this option makes me dislike it, but to be sure please tell me I am incorrect in my thinking on these two scenarios:

1) I get first pick and draft Foster. Does this mean I can keep him in the first round every year until he dies? What if I pick a stud QB in the 4th? Will I get to keep him next yr as a 2nd rd and every year after that as a 1st rd?

2) I draft Murray in the 2nd rd and Foster in the first this year. Murray becomes a stud RB and now I can keep him as my 2nd rd pick until he or Foster dies since I can not be punished for having 2 players that should be kept in the same round.

Hope I have reading comprehension problems (seems fairly likely) and neither of these situations could occur. We need to institute a max # of years you can keep a player, IMO.

-Yea the Foster thing is a problem. There are a few players who have been mid-high firsts forever and no check on this would put too much power in that initial randomly selected draft order.

-Don't see a problem with the stud QB example. If you take a guy in the 4th and he develops into a first round talent, good job drafting. Thats what a keeper league is supposed to reward, imo.

-2) is a problem as well. Conceivably I could keep my top 3 picks into perpetuity without ever paying for it. Not sure what the solution is, tho.

-I'm wary of the max because it creates potential tanking situations. If I can't keep my best player next year and I'm not making the playoffs this year, why not move him for far less than his market value to a contender in exchange for some decent player who's like a 10th round cost?

-Is it possible to remove picks from a player? Like maybe keeping someone with a 1st round cost more than once also means you lose your 5th. Or maybe it means you can only keep one other player instead of two. We've got two weeks before the draft, so lets get it right.

kay everyone has been invited, im going to be sending out a detailed pm to everyone regarding payment and a couple other issues to vote on... i like DDIP's keeper option too btw, i think it should be considered and possibly is the best option...

also everyone have a look at settings, i believe i have everything set correctly, but may be mistaken, i left waivers on default since we voted to use regular waivers, do i have to adjust anything on espn to account for thurs night games?

This is somewhat true, but is there really that many guys who remain 1st round picks for more than 3years? I mean LT dominated for a long time, but I still think he was only a 1st rounder for like 5 years...

-DontDoItPls

You have to make the change so it goes moves to last after claim

right now it reverses to inverse standing

Yea, I know on Yahoo it's called continuous rolling waivers or something like that.

fixed, thanks

The only thing I noticed was Field Goals Missed = -1 point.

Is this standard? Just sucks if it is -1 when they go for a 50+ yard field goal...

-DontDoItPls

usually u can do fg under 40 or 30 -1

also fixed, all missed fgs=0

Looking at ADP value from FantasyFootballCalculator.com for the last 5 years, it seems like 3 years is a good run for a player to be a top 5 pick. Including 2012 (and assuming nothing changes), players with 3 or more consecutive top 5 ADP's are:
-LT (07-08, late first in 09, probably did well before 07 but I don't feel like looking for it)
-AP (08-11)

and thats it, although there a few others that would probably be slightly +EV. So you're right; I'm surprised there were so few players even in consideration. And in order for an actual advantage to be gained, you'd need to pick up one of those special players in the draft, then finish in the top half of the league to actualize the advantage vs the market. So, yea, not likely to be a major issue.

And looking at old draft data is such a blast from the past. 2007 first rounders included Joe Addai, Rudi Johnson, and Travis Henry.

Thoughts on making a rule with a max # of players in the first few rounds. Like "you can only keep 2 players in the first 5 rounds" or "you can only keep 1 player in the first 2 rounds."

The 2nd suggestion prevents someone from getting 2 first rounders this year and hanging on to them next year w/ a 1st and 2nd rd pick.

I know another league where you keep 1 player in rounds 1-5, 1 player in rounds 6-10, 1 player in rounds 11-15...

I'm fine with keeping 3 players with no penalties, or if there is penalties, and they're in the same round you can only keep one imo

sent out pm to everyone, read closely (esp about payment)...

pm me vote on keeper issue and draft time...

we could still modify keeper issue after vote, just vote on those options so we can proceed with one of them and go from there...

Mentioned this in pm, but in option #3 (50%), how do odd rounds work? Says we keeping player from rd5, do we lose 3rd rd the next yr or 2nd?

In my other league it is rounded up. 5/2=2.5 rounded up = 3rd rounder.

-DontDoItPls

Signed up and paid. imho the half round should be rounded up to the earlier round following the logic that pick 2.5 would be in the middle of the 2nd. If the goal of the 50% rule is to more quickly balance keepers towards their actual value I don't see why you would round to the later round, unless you wanted to promote keeping late round/FA keepers. It also adds so much value to keeping odd round players.. Which I am cool with if you guys are.

If a FA is picked up, but was drafted that year is he kept in the round he was drafted or is he automatically kept in the 8th round?

My understanding is round he was drafted.

-DontDoItPls

^ Yeah thats pretty straight forward. Lets say for instance Brandon Marshall breaks his leg during the season and someone who doesn't make playoffs picks him up before rosters lock to keep him.. It would be pretty sick to be able to keep him in 8th

With 7 bench spots I don't think anyone is dropping him, but I agree we should use the round he was drafted in.