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05-11-2015 , 08:22 PM
I'm in last place with plenty of bats that I'm willing to trade aside from Bryce and Giancarlo. Need starting pitching.
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05-13-2015 , 06:17 PM
How long for trades to process?
Annoying how Yahoo does this... accepted a trade and I chose 2 players to drop so it would be allowed. That should have opened up a roster spot for me, so that I could add a player last night. but the players dont drop immediately.

So then I tried to just drop the 2 players outright, but Yahoo wont let me because they are already in the pending transaction. wat!

I guess if I had just just dropped the 2 players, and THEN accepted teh trade I would be set, but it still makes no sense. I want to add someone becasue I basically have any empty roster spot but Yahoo locks the "dropped for trade" players onto my team.

And if the trade is cancelled, my players dropped, then resent, it would be another what 2? 3? days before it finalizes? ugh


LESSON: when making a trade that is already agreed to by both sides, drop any players necessary BEFORE sending/accepting the deal otherwise your roster is basically locked until it finalizes.
Movieman, anyway to push trades through to avoid this issue?
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05-13-2015 , 06:36 PM
trades and waivers were all set to 1 day, so im not sure why things are taking longer than a day if they are (i havent been paying attention really)

no idea how yahoo does all its waiver stuff, i do hate that they seem to not let you do any changes for the day of games, ie taking someone off the DL doesnt activate them until the next day, so you cant really activate someone the day theyre ready.

i dont mind pushing trades through but i do think there needs to be some kind of public period, just on principle. i think everyone in this league is good, no cheaters, i trust everyone, etc etc, but i dont like pushing stuff through in general
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05-13-2015 , 08:13 PM
Oh for sure, I agree a waiting period is fine. Its just weird that it says 1 day, and the trade was accepted on Tuesday, but then when I looked at it just now it says "will be reflected on Fridays lineup.
LOLYahoo.

and I mean i could have avoided the problem if I had just dropped players prior to doing the trade, so its my own fault anyway.
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05-13-2015 , 08:20 PM
I'm fine with trades going through immediately, I don't think anyone here is going to make bad trades unless it's me and if they do we can just mock them
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05-13-2015 , 08:30 PM
it really says friday? thats ridiculous

maybe its cause we have the waiver days not everyday?

id also be fine going to waivers going everyday. i remember we talked about basically every other day to give people more of a chance for FA but if its screwing up trades then we can go to every day
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05-13-2015 , 09:52 PM
I'm all for everyday waivers too.
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05-14-2015 , 12:42 AM
How the **** is that a legit trade?
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05-14-2015 , 12:48 AM
Also, I'm voting against that trade. If it actually happens, it's a ****ing atrocity and I'd question some of the ethics happening.
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05-14-2015 , 01:45 AM
Lol what?


Anyway I'm on board with every day waivers as well. That might be why its taking so long to process.
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05-14-2015 , 01:52 AM
Can you explain how that trade isn't rape please?
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05-14-2015 , 02:17 AM
ok lets not turn this into a wesrwood league type circus. Frivolous complaints really do not warrant any explanation from anyone, but i will just say this:

Pretty simple. He posted a very specific trade block right in this very thread stating who was available and exactly what he wanted - ie cheap young keepers.
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Originally Posted by danvh
My team blows so if someone has an awesome value young guy I can move SP like Max or Price
I gave him a list of 3 of the top 5 prospects in baseball and we reached an agreement on 2 of them.
A rebuilding team cannot keep a 1st round pitcher.
Using valuable picks to draft prospects, in order to flip them midseason, is a viable strategy and Im sorry if nobody else used that tactic. I know for a fact that nobody could have offered a better package of prospects because nobody else had that kind of MiLB talent on their team. So if you did not/could not offer a better package, dont whine. Its kind of pathetic.
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05-14-2015 , 08:35 AM
Moving Felix and Puig for help next year please make offers.
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05-14-2015 , 09:59 AM
Yeah there's nothing wrong with that deal at all. Dan dealt a guy who he wasn't going to keep for 2 guys he could keep, pretty simple.
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05-14-2015 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlieKelly
Also, I'm voting against that trade. If it actually happens, it's a ****ing atrocity and I'd question some of the ethics happening.
I'll also just say, re: ethics, that there is a 0% chance of collusion. I've been a co commish with dan in another league for 3+ years, and known cs3 for a couple years now, and there is no reason at all to think about anything shady.

There's nothing wrong in asking "hey that trade seemed lopsided to me", and believe me that I look at each deal that gets made and that's why there is a 1 day processing period. But there's no reason to question the ethics of the deal
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05-14-2015 , 11:16 AM
See normally I would say something like that and be polite about it, but seeing the commish and guy getting the clear better end of the deal talk about it in the thread like it wasn't truly awful got me fired up.

So the guy stated what he wanted in the thread, shouldn't the trade still be reasonably fair? Scherzer and 2 top prospects for Moustakas who I'm pretty sure was undrafted, is not that young, and playing way above his head currently, and Steve Pearce who was hot for about a month last season and didn't really do much after that and will continue that pattern of play. Max is a top 3 pitcher IMO, and a trade for him alone should warrant a top 10 player in return. Not a 1 tool guy playing above his head and another batting under .200.

I apologize for initially accusing of collusion, but when the guy in close to last place is getting the **** end of the stick and the guy in first place is the one getting the world, it really raises some red flags to me.
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05-14-2015 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlieKelly
See normally I would say something like that and be polite about it, but seeing the commish and guy getting the clear better end of the deal talk about it in the thread like it wasn't truly awful got me fired up.

So the guy stated what he wanted in the thread, shouldn't the trade still be reasonably fair? Scherzer and 2 top prospects for Moustakas who I'm pretty sure was undrafted, is not that young, and playing way above his head currently, and Steve Pearce who was hot for about a month last season and didn't really do much after that and will continue that pattern of play. Max is a top 3 pitcher IMO, and a trade for him alone should warrant a top 10 player in return. Not a 1 tool guy playing above his head and another batting under .200.

I apologize for initially accusing of collusion, but when the guy in close to last place is getting the **** end of the stick and the guy in first place is the one getting the world, it really raises some red flags to me.
I think you're misreading the trade. CS3 is only getting Scherzer, he's sending the top 2 prospects back to Dan.

The other guys you mentioned are all being dropped to make room on rosters. The deal itself is Max to CS3 for Seager and Moncada to Dan, everything else is just roster clearing noise.
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05-14-2015 , 11:41 AM
what makes you think that's collusion?
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05-14-2015 , 11:42 AM
both teams are clearly trading to their best interest, therefore it's not collusion. just because it 'looks' bad doesn't mean it's remotely vetoeable
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05-14-2015 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlieKelly
See normally I would say something like that and be polite about it, but seeing the commish and guy getting the clear better end of the deal talk about it in the thread like it wasn't truly awful got me fired up.

So the guy stated what he wanted in the thread, shouldn't the trade still be reasonably fair? Scherzer and 2 top prospects for Moustakas who I'm pretty sure was undrafted, is not that young, and playing way above his head currently, and Steve Pearce who was hot for about a month last season and didn't really do much after that and will continue that pattern of play. Max is a top 3 pitcher IMO, and a trade for him alone should warrant a top 10 player in return. Not a 1 tool guy playing above his head and another batting under .200.

I apologize for initially accusing of collusion, but when the guy in close to last place is getting the **** end of the stick and the guy in first place is the one getting the world, it really raises some red flags to me.
to point 1 - i was only responding to the fact that it was taking a while to process, i wasnt commenting on the deal itself

to point 2 - leebert is right, youre reading the deal wrong. cs3 gets scherzer, dan gets mocando and seager, everyone else was dropped
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05-14-2015 , 11:57 AM
Okay, I ****ed up. I definitely read the trade wrong. My apologies to everyone.

I honestly thought I was going crazy when I was the only one who saw how bad it was. What I saw was Scherzer, Seager, Moncada for Moustakas and Pearce.

Again, I apologize.

Having said that, I'm willing to trade for some pitching.
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05-14-2015 , 12:06 PM
I'm jealous of the trade because I have a man crush on Max.

I am looking to deal anyone not named Dee, T Frazier and Arenado. Prefer to keep Upton since I am a Padres fan.
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05-14-2015 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieKelly
Okay, I ****ed up. I definitely read the trade wrong. My apologies to everyone.

I honestly thought I was going crazy when I was the only one who saw how bad it was. What I saw was Scherzer, Seager, Moncada for Moustakas and Pearce.

Again, I apologize.

Having said that, I'm willing to trade for some pitching.
to be fair, if that was the case, then yes, i would step in. also yahoo is still so, so awful with their look/UI in general so i dont think its that big a mistake on your part

as soon as ESPN adopts some sort of AAA/NA system i cant see how yahoo stays in business especially since they havent even gotten pro leagues up
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05-14-2015 , 01:53 PM
Ah ok I misunderstood
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05-14-2015 , 02:05 PM
I looked over that trade screen for nearly 5 minutes to make sure there wasn't something I was missing, so I'm pretty certain it was an error either in my browser or on yahoo's part.
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