Yeah, it's fine if you can choose the length of a deal that you offer, but if it's ever-increasing penalties for cutting a guy early, that gets kind of problematic, I think

Other leagues use a formula to work out which bid is superior. Something like

2xannual salary+total value of the contract=bid points works pretty well

Then again, it would be a fairly substantial shift from the current system. The one thing I think we ought to look at is a minimum salary increase for all non-rookie players. It could be something like $5 or $10 per year, so that you can't get someone at $4, and then have them for five years at $4, $5, $6, $7 and $8.

Yeah, when we bumped raises to 10% we could have also set the min at $2 instead of $1. Whoops.

That's pretty close to the one I had, but with a 0.55 exponent. Easier though, no doubt preferable.

Based on the recent feedback in the thread, I'd like to propose a rule change for a vote:

Lift the cap of 20 and floor of 10 on minor leaguers. The only limitation on the minor league roster will be having the payroll to cover the $4 salaries.

Draft picks would still be managed the same way we do now.

I would go for that.

Is SRM definitely replacing Karak by the way? He sounded interested in the other thread but not sure if that was official.

What other thread

meh, i like there being a cap for minor leaguers (and to a less extent the floor). would vote no. You can always promote guys to active roster if you've got too many in minors.

and SRM would be pretty ideal candidate, hope he was serious, we gotta resolve the karak situation very soon.

Ya I guess I forgot to post ITT but I'm in

Nice, welcome aboard!

Exit, you had mentioned this earlier. Were you primarily worried about a team getting an extreme amount of picks/prospects?

I would be ok with a compromise of no cap/floor, but if you exceed X number of minor leaguers you may not use more than five picks in that year's draft (you could still improve your draft position, just not make extra picks).

What benefits or checks do you associate with retaining the current cap/floor system?

Welcome, SRM.

Here's the link to the league rules. Feel free to post any questions, grievances, suggestions, etc. in this thread. You can also PM either Exit or myself about any of that.

Also, I'm looking to trade both minor leaguers and MLB players, so let me know if you're interested in anyone once you get settled in.

Yea i mean i think it just makes sense that there is a limit to the roster size, like in almost all fantasy leagues, and irl which we tried to model this off of. 20 minor leaguers is already a lot and the $4 cost is basically meaningless as a deterrent.

i just think there should be decisions. the floor/cap add decisions. if cutting down below 5 will get you replacement picks, or if keeping over 15 will cut into your 5 allotted picks you have to decide if your players are worth more than those picks.

as of right now if you have more than 5 locked in as keepers it would take some pretty compelling reasons to not keep the rest up until you have 15. either the players are truly awful and have no potential to return some profit for you, or the $4-$40 is going to make a big difference to your auction. both fairly unlikely.

there are between 130-260 minor leaguers currently in play each season, that seems like a pretty good range to me.. we already bumped it up to a ceiling of 20 not sure I see a reason to change it even more.

all that said, not a huge deal to me if i'm on the wrong end of the vote.

Agree with this

Re: SRM

Here's a link to the big spreadsheet where we track everything.

I look forward to see what players you can injure in this league srm

All excellent points by Exit, but this one stands out. I hadn't given much thought to how the decision points described may influence the value of draft picks beyond simply having ownership of a pick.

I'm pulling my proposal from the floor, no vote needed. /hat tip

I am cutting these two losers. When did we say MLB cuts were due again?

Yea, I was curious about cuts to. Think it was suppose to be this week, but wasnt sure if we moved it

Oh man you guys. Big March coming for this league.

Also, I think Exit might have already suggested a bit of a schedule, so my apologies if I'm stepping on it, but a proposal:

February 23: Minor-league cuts are due
March 2: Minor-league draft begins
March 15 (at the latest): Minor-league draft concludes
March 16: Major-league cuts are due
March 23: Major-league auction begins
April 3 (at the latest): Major-league auction concludes
April 5: Opening Day

I've made all but one or two of my decisions already so easy for me to say. But I'd want to move up the MLB cuts and auction a little bit, just in case Couchmanagers craps the bed on us or something. Plus there is a lot more cap dollars in play in this auction than the previous few which might take a bit longer.

Yeah that's fair: obviously you want to balance having time with having more information at the time of the auction, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to bumping things up a week. At least on the major-league side; the draft is typically pretty quick (at least the main rounds), so that's probably fine there.

yea bumping the auction up a few days to a week seems like a good idea to me. otherwise schedule looks good.

Ya looks good to me as well.