That was funny.

I wonder if John Oliver paid BoDog (CalvinAyre.com) cash for the usage of that interview with Jason Robins.

I wish he would have slated the ag a bit for his ties with gambling.

Thank you for the level headed reply, which 2p2 is can be great for at times, I highly appreciate it. I have no agenda, other than a fair and objective stance. Unfortunately, the "media" for DFS is very limited and the facts are not being represented well as they are coming from the bitter online poker space and do not have the experience to speak objectively on the topic of DFS.

The key differences from DFS to online poker, is DFS in the US, US companies are offering it, backed by prominent US entities/individuals. You cannot get payment approval in the US w/o legal clarity. You have to apply, present your legal opinions (written by experienced lawyers), go through underwriting, then get approved. (for PayPal, MasterCard, Visa, etc)

This is a big difference. I do wish the industry would use this message this more. Call DFS skill gaming, call it gambling, the fact is it's legal, and there are documents to back that up.

Thanks again and good luck,
Joe

New Daily Fantasy Sports Bill In New York Seeks To Exempt DFS From Gambling Code

Not good be we have another week.

http://www.legalsportsreport.com/630...aining-orders/

Brad Johnson's 4th "pro" DFS article since ethangate (quotes because he's so bad at it). Needless to say the comments are once again mystifyingly ignorant.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the...t-dfs-fallout/

I have to think all of the excerpts used in that segment are fair use. Oliver's use didn't supplant the market for the content.

CA wrote an article about it. They seemed to enjoy the coverage.

with a drop in amount of week 10 entries from NY based DK players have anything to do with the fact that i showed a profit of 50 cents in one of my NFL contest entries this past Sunday ?

this is an outrage. Some have quit their lucrative paying jobs to earn a living playing DFS in Ny and now this? How dare they cut off the air supply of these hard working individuals who spend countless hrs creating lineups to feed their family. Stuffed shirt selfish big wig bureaucrats with Brooks Brothers suits in NY are making enough money off of lottery race tracks and Bingo and its still not enough? Despicable

I've been researching state laws, and I'm not a lawyer, but I have to think there are issues in more states if an aggressive AG gets involved. I've found a few state laws that make me wonder how a court would rule. Here are two examples:

Texas says:

It goes on to exempt insurance, animal, car and boat races. Then it says it is illegal to:

Is DFS is partially by chance? I think it is. Maybe the plural between "participant" and "participants" makes all the difference in the world. I wouldn't bet on it. If you bet on two participants, you're also betting on one.

Tennessee says:

Does DFS fall outside of any degree contingent on chance? It seems to me that some chance is involved.

DFS sites can't claim any personal winnings. They make their money off the rake. A different section seems to exempt office pools and fantasy contests where nobody has an edge beyond skill or luck.

Those are just samples. I certainly wouldn't bet my net worth or freedom on the DFS side of the argument in states where "partially by chance" and "any degree contingent on chance" are considered bets.

This doesn't mean a state AG will pursue this, or that I am correct and not missing some other law that offsets it. It at least gives me enough reason to question what would happen if the issue made it to court in these states, especially ones with a history of being anti gambling.

The sites being wrong in Nevada is enough to question whether they are also wrong in other states. If DFS loses in NY, I think they are illegal in numerous other states with the same or lesser degree of chance in gambling statutes, if challenged. I can't help but think that the industry as it is now implodes if the NYAG wins this battle.

Looks like a house of cards for sure. Some legislation is popping up in various places including New York to make DFS an exception to the anti-gambling statutes. My fear is that the shady reputations of the sites will prevent these bills from getting popular support. If legalizing DFS means we have to see more DK and FD commercials, the public may encourage their lawmakers to vote no.

Meantime, somebody needs to grab up the movie rights to this.

Lol at popular support meaning anything. As soon as the politicians are properly donated to, the bills will pass. Just gonna take some time to negotiate the donation process and rainmake a few Internet nerd ceos who don't know any better.

MLB/NFL/NBA and their owners won't allow this to become illegal for good,

Yeah I actually feel optimistic now that I'm seeing legislators in FL and NY introducing bills to protect DFS. Clearly the FD/DK lobbyists making some strides in the right direction.

Additionally, I think that whole season long vs DFS could scare the NFL enough to back DFS as well. (that is a very jumbled and not accurate as written thought but I think we have some equity there as a last resort)

Wonder how much viewership and sub packages would have dropped if all forms of fantasy were banned.

No doubt there will be a DFS 30 for 30.

You'll be retired to FL in the time it takes the NY pols to decide how much profit DFS legislation will produce and how to divide it.

Of course CA loves it, it's a joke John! The segment is about gambling and legalities, I found it ironical that they used CalvinAyre as a source.

I cannot disagree. We both know that UIGEA allows all power to the States when it comes to Gaming laws. Plus, my quote you used is out of context, my comment was in regards to the reckless comparisons to online poker and DFS.

I am one example but I did not pick up my NBA package, nor have I watched an NBA game since DFS is banned in Nevada. I cannot be alone.

Id have no reason to get the NBA package anymore.

i never watched NBA. over the last two years, i watched one or two games a week due to dfs.
I haven't watched any NBA this year. I also haven't started NBA DFS yet, still focused on NFL. Once I make the transition, I'll be watching NBA a couple times a week.

I bought mls live and direct kick because of dfs. Would never watch otherwise. Also prob wouldn't care for NFL either outside of Steelers games.

Question since I see people asking why the NY AG isn't also going after season long: How exactly would he even do that? How do you make season long fantasy illegal when millions play it for free anyway, and most leagues are set up either offline or through Paypal. It's not like you can make ESPN stop offering fantasy games. Though if it was even possible for him to attempt to do that it would be the best thing that could happen to us because then the masses would be on our side.

I can't remember the last regular season NBA or NHL game I've watched pre DFS.Before DFS I hadn't watched a reg.season MLB game not involving the NY Mets in probably 15 yrs.

AG Scheiderman cited Olivers DFS segment on his twitter page for some reason.

Barely watch anything once the lineups lock. Onto to the next slate.