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10-28-2015 , 10:18 PM
DFS got a little play at the GOP debate tonight with Jeb! joking about his fantasy record and Christie essentially saying "WHO CARES ABOUT DFS, WE GOT MORE IMPORTANT **** TO WORRY ABOUT"
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10-29-2015 , 10:04 AM
Any idea about Draftkings UK? It's late october, NBA season has started, no news yet. Any risk they're going to back out?
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10-29-2015 , 02:31 PM
Why would they? They've supposedly got a UK gaming license so the only hold up is getting their software and procedures up to whatever standard their gaming regulators demand.
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10-30-2015 , 12:06 AM
These are a few days old but kinda shocking how stupid (and anti-DFS) many Fangraphs readers are:

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/hav...gs-screwed-up/

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/dfs...-perspectives/
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10-30-2015 , 04:24 AM
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These are a few days old but kinda shocking how stupid (and anti-DFS) many Fangraphs readers are:

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/hav...gs-screwed-up/

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/dfs...-perspectives/
Its much less negative than the comments section of the New York Times, lol.

I think there is a small bit of dislike for dfs among people who have played season long baseball (some of it is understandable) It's a way different version of the sport. Of course if daily goes away high stakes season long leagues go away too...
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10-30-2015 , 05:27 AM
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Why would they? They've supposedly got a UK gaming license so the only hold up is getting their software and procedures up to whatever standard their gaming regulators demand.
Is it? Maybe NFL opener became late october well into NFL season, late october now becomes December on Oct 30. Am I silly for fearing December will become February on Dec 30?
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10-30-2015 , 10:58 AM
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Is it? Maybe NFL opener became late october well into NFL season, late october now becomes December on Oct 30. Am I silly for fearing December will become February on Dec 30?
You are silly for having any "fear" about the availability of DK in the UK. First, there are probably decent sportsbooks already licensed and operating in the UK.

Second, how deep do you think the liquidity will be for US sports when DK does launch in the UK ? (It may be deeper than you would think, but I have attended Super Bowl parties each of the last several years in London .... the NFL is a non-story there on the biggest day of its season....)

Third, there are already DFS sites for other sports in Europe.

Finally, I know the guy likely running DK for Europe, he is a smart, capable ROW marketing pro. The launch will be done when the product is ready for that market.
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10-30-2015 , 11:31 AM
with fangraphs I think the issue is they all consider themselves baseball elite because they use advanced metrics and think they are so knowledgeable about the game

so they try DFS, get destroyed, and think it must be fixed in some way
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10-30-2015 , 11:33 AM
Yup that's it for a lot of people.
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10-30-2015 , 12:32 PM
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You are silly for having any "fear" about the availability of DK in the UK. First, there are probably decent sportsbooks already licensed and operating in the UK.

Second, how deep do you think the liquidity will be for US sports when DK does launch in the UK ? (It may be deeper than you would think, but I have attended Super Bowl parties each of the last several years in London .... the NFL is a non-story there on the biggest day of its season....)

Third, there are already DFS sites for other sports in Europe.

Finally, I know the guy likely running DK for Europe, he is a smart, capable ROW marketing pro. The launch will be done when the product is ready for that market.
Dk isn't launching in Europe for us sports. Soccer has a super high ceiling for liquidity now with the scoring and format changes.
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10-30-2015 , 01:17 PM
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Second, how deep do you think the liquidity will be for US sports when DK does launch in the UK ?
DK's CEO stated that UK players would be integrated to the US playing pool.

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First, there are probably decent sportsbooks already licensed and operating in the UK.
Sportsbook? Sure, I can do sports betting, not sure what your point is.

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Third, there are already DFS sites for other sports in Europe.
What other DFS sites? Mondogoal does only soccer and their tournaments look fairly small. Fanaments are not available in the UK yet (even when they are, not much liquidity either).


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Finally, I know the guy likely running DK for Europe, he is a smart, capable ROW marketing pro. The launch will be done when the product is ready for that market.
And you're sure that bolded will be December?
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10-30-2015 , 01:31 PM
Dk will likely want to wait for boxing day so they can offer a massive soccer slate to kick things off.
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10-30-2015 , 04:13 PM
So Pierre Garcon is suing Fanduel for using his likeness lol
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10-30-2015 , 04:22 PM
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with fangraphs I think the issue is they all consider themselves baseball elite because they use advanced metrics and think they are so knowledgeable about the game

so they try DFS, get destroyed, and think it must be fixed in some way
Reading through both threads I didn't see much if any "rigged" talk. The prevailing thought seemed to be that DFS baseball can't be beat because picking top performers is all luck on any given day, which is of course ridiculous. It's exactly the kind of thing I'd expect to see on RG (along with the rigged stuff) not Fangraphs.
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10-30-2015 , 04:24 PM
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So Pierre Garcon is suing Fanduel for using his likeness lol
MLB and the players union tried this with CDM 10+ years ago, MLB lost.
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10-30-2015 , 04:27 PM
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So Pierre Garcon is suing Fanduel for using his likeness lol
Unless they cut a deal with the NFLPA he may actually have a case considering the commercials openly use faces and names during the roster construction parts.

Stats aren't protectable, but a player's likeness definitely is.
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10-30-2015 , 04:37 PM
DFS really going to grow when we get to pick QB PATRIOTS.
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10-30-2015 , 04:58 PM
I'm fine with Garcon being removed from the player pool
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10-30-2015 , 05:11 PM
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10-30-2015 , 05:14 PM
Ya sounds like they used to pay him and then stopped paying him but kept using his names in the commercials
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10-30-2015 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean
DK's CEO stated that UK players would be integrated to the US playing pool.


Sportsbook? Sure, I can do sports betting, not sure what your point is.


What other DFS sites? Mondogoal does only soccer and their tournaments look fairly small. Fanaments are not available in the UK yet (even when they are, not much liquidity either).



And you're sure that bolded will be December?
I am not so sure you will see integration like that any time soon, however much liquidity might be better.

There is no reason why any UK sportsbook cannot offer DFS or, better yet, DFS-graded betting.

I was thinking of Mondogoal, for "soccer".

If you are pinning your hopes on pooling between US and ROW players, and playing US sports, I think you will be disappointed.

As for a December launch, I have no f**king idea, I do not work for DK. I just know it won't be likely to launch until the product is ready. Your "US pooling" comment however raises the possibility that DK is waiting for that state of affairs .... in which instance the wait will be long.
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10-30-2015 , 06:44 PM
So FD not going to let NV players convert points to cash. This just seems so short sighted, and beyond scummy.

“Our team has elected not to allow Nevada users to redeem their FDP for cash. Reason being, we are on the record as disagreeing with Nevada’s decision.

Solid reasoning to steal from your players

https://rotogrinders.com/threads/fan...sidents-931972
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10-30-2015 , 07:08 PM
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I'm fine with Garcon being removed from the player pool
haha
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10-30-2015 , 07:25 PM
Sucks i have about $2000 worth of fd points i never used since mobile makes it hard to use them
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10-30-2015 , 07:35 PM
Yeah those Fangraphs comments were lolbad
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