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06-23-2024 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
I think it's possible to make something that looks okay. My first 10 rounds went RB-RB-WR-RB-WR-WR-WR-RB-WR-QB


QB - Tua, Dimes

RB - Bijan, Achane, Jacobs, Pollard, Guerendo

WR - Nabers, Terry, Godwin, Addison, Doubs, Palmer, Gabe, Wandle, Mims, Malik

TE - Jonnu, Woods, Gesicki
It can work and this isn’t a bad team. But I’d change the Jacobs pick to WR, QB or TE, then add Pollard plus a couple other RBs after.

DK offers a little more flexibility at 20 rounds instead of 18.

What helps me is comparing 1v1s. Would you rather have Jacobs + Doubs in their respective ranges or a WR where Jacobs goes + a RB where Doubs goes or a TE/QB?
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06-23-2024 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
It can work and this isn’t a bad team. But I’d change the Jacobs pick to WR, QB or TE, then add Pollard plus a couple other RBs after.

DK offers a little more flexibility at 20 rounds instead of 18.

What helps me is comparing 1v1s. Would you rather have Jacobs + Doubs in their respective ranges or a WR where Jacobs goes + a RB where Doubs goes?
I agree with this whole heartedly . There’s certain rounds where I hate either all the rbs or all the wrs . I guess it’s also up to each persons likes .
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06-23-2024 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmymcgill8
Fell a little bit further behind than I’m used to at WR, had 4 through 7 but it was 1, 3, 6,7

Qb - Allen, Nix

Rb - Gibbs, Swift, Pollard, Ekeler, B Allen

Wr - Wilson, Tee, Odunze, Keon, Palmer, Downs, Thielen, Mims, Claypool (gross haha)

Te - Kincaid, Musgrave
Just for fun and all, but mighty curious, which 7 of these are better than the best 7 on Lamar team in your opinion?

Anything can happen but highly doubting this is anything like the poster team for better WRs. And Draftkings PPR versus .5 UD
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06-23-2024 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BKGJ
Just for fun and all, but mighty curious, which 7 of these are better than the best 7 on Lamar team in your opinion?

Anything can happen but highly doubting this is anything like the poster team for better WRs. And Draftkings PPR versus .5 UD
Dotson was your wr3 lol. I wasn’t trying to be rude in my response, but based on the way you’re reacting it seems like maybe you took it that way, so I apologize
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06-23-2024 , 08:12 PM
Mostly just surprised. Usually going more standard with several teams' WRs but best ball guys are going for 5 of first 7 picks @ WR! grabbing those RBs if they pan out will land you in playoffs more easily where anything could happen right? Obviously it'll depend if you have decent WRs at the end of draft. Hyatt, Chark and Gabe all could be top contributors for their teams at times this szn. A guy like Odunze is probably not going crazy this year with the pieces around him. Genuinely feel like having a Ravens stack where there's probably added production to emerge, along with attempting to bank stronger somewhere others haven't is +EV far more than taking stabs on guys to just hope they're the IT factor.
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06-23-2024 , 08:13 PM
Another Dk milly

Qb : Josh , Baker

Rb: Bijan , Rashaad White , Spears, Dowdle, Ray Davis , Elijah Mitchell , Estime

Wr: Davante Adams , Dj Moore , Godwin, Rice, Shakir , Cooks , Mims, Tolbert , Rondale Moore

Te: Ferguson , Otton
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06-23-2024 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BKGJ
Mostly just surprised. Usually going more standard with several teams' WRs but best ball guys are going for 5 of first 7 picks @ WR! grabbing those RBs if they pan out will land you in playoffs more easily where anything could happen right? Obviously it'll depend if you have decent WRs at the end of draft. Hyatt, Chark and Gabe all could be top contributors for their teams at times this szn. A guy like Odunze is probably not going crazy this year with the pieces around him. Genuinely feel like having a Ravens stack where there's probably added production to emerge, along with attempting to bank stronger somewhere others haven't is +EV far more than taking stabs on guys to just hope they're the IT factor.
As a general rule of thumb: WRs fantasy pts come from skill and ability whereas rb pts come from opportunity

Not always but as a general rule

That coupled with the fact that RBs get injured at a much higher rate than WRs means that drafting wr early and rb late gives a better opportunity to have lg winners at both wr and rb

That doesn’t mean that other strategies can’t work, but it does mean that they are quite a bit less likely to work
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06-23-2024 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmymcgill8
As a general rule of thumb: WRs fantasy pts come from skill and ability whereas rb pts come from opportunity

Not always but as a general rule

That coupled with the fact that RBs get injured at a much higher rate than WRs means that drafting wr early and rb late gives a better opportunity to have lg winners at both wr and rb

That doesn’t mean that other strategies can’t work, but it does mean that they are quite a bit less likely to work
I get it. I've played in some capacity for 14 years and I am seeing lots of people who must be quite newish flocking in, because some of the extreme proliferations of strategy = far away from the older styles that worked well. It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out. Just seems to me that many are overvaluing even the 40 point WR games someone like Evans or Lockett in recent years might pull off once for the price they may come at. I haven't looked far into it so maybe I'm wrong
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06-23-2024 , 08:34 PM
https://underdognetwork.com/football...est-ball-mania

This is what I feel you're aiming for, but so are 88% of the competitors at this point. Obviously if you're getting the chance to have more WRs who might get 10 targets in the playoff weeks you're better off on average. Idk I guess I'm more confident best ball style to have the players who would be going near the $$ rounds of a 10 teamer when I began playing versus gambling with slews of RBs at position depth 2 or 3 who could be lucky to see two 15 touch games this season
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06-23-2024 , 08:41 PM
The team you responded to which I’m not even sure is that good a team has Gibbs, Swift, Pollard, and Ekeler… which of those RBs will be lucky to get 2 15 touch games all season?

I think you’re creating a bit of a straw man. You can get high touch RBs very late in best ball drafts
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06-23-2024 , 08:56 PM
That team has 4 RBs in roughly top 100 so I'm not referring to that build RB wise, moreso zero RB builders who in first 8 rounds will have a team full of WRs and a 5th/ 6th "top" TE and QB who's on a team that might not be as good as recent times or possibly as lucky. Usually they start choosing 3-5 b2b RBs that I am referring to like Charb Vidal and so forth. Nothing against those RBs but I don't see that being as consistently an optimal path to victory as getting a top 3 QB, try to guarantee good TE finishes most weeks, and just pick the solid WRs late others won't touch because of the incorrectness of the crowd on talented WRs. I do like the approach you took to RB actually. In a way the approaches are reversed. Slid RBs in where you might've settled for a WR who might effectively just be a name.
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06-23-2024 , 09:22 PM
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The team you responded to which I’m not even sure is that good a team has Gibbs, Swift, Pollard, and Ekeler… which of those RBs will be lucky to get 2 15 touch games all season?

I think you’re creating a bit of a straw man. You can get high touch RBs very late in best ball drafts
Gibbs and Pollard should be favorites to have (2) 15 touch games.

Swift and Ekeler might be even money or small dogs. Swift because of all the mouths to feed in Chicago and Ekeler because of age and not sure if he'll be the main RB in Washington.
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06-23-2024 , 11:33 PM
Got my first 2 early rb team. Kyren fell to the fourth and I couldn’t pass him up. I kinda like how it looks

Qb - Herbert, Kirk, Bryce

Rb - Bijan, Kyren, Pollard, Ekeler, Estime

Wr - Olave, Diggs, Keenan, Diontae, Lockett, Palmer, Thielen, Pop Douglas

Te - Pitts , Sinnott
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06-23-2024 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmymcgill8
Got my first 2 early rb team. Kyren fell to the fourth and I couldn’t pass him up. I kinda like how it looks

Qb - Herbert, Kirk, Bryce

Rb - Bijan, Kyren, Pollard, Ekeler, Estime

Wr - Olave, Diggs, Keenan, Diontae, Lockett, Palmer, Thielen, Pop Douglas

Te - Pitts , Sinnott
Godwin over Keenan for correlation, plus I think he's a much better play despite the ADP difference.
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06-23-2024 , 11:44 PM
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Godwin over Keenan for correlation, plus I think he's a much better play despite the ADP difference.
Idk everyone said the same thing bout Keenan last year and he was soo good until he got hurt . And yes I know new situation etc .
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06-23-2024 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmymcgill8
Got my first 2 early rb team. Kyren fell to the fourth and I couldn’t pass him up. I kinda like how it looks

Qb - Herbert, Kirk, Bryce

Rb - Bijan, Kyren, Pollard, Ekeler, Estime

Wr - Olave, Diggs, Keenan, Diontae, Lockett, Palmer, Thielen, Pop Douglas

Te - Pitts , Sinnott
Like this team a lot.
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06-23-2024 , 11:44 PM
I have them exactly even, but I had no idea I’d have a panthers stack in rd5, but yeah I’d be happy to have Godwin
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06-23-2024 , 11:58 PM
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Idk everyone said the same thing bout Keenan last year and he was soo good until he got hurt . And yes I know new situation etc .
Historically speaking, WRs that are 32 years or older don't put up great numbers.

There are some outliers, Thielen last season and Edelman in '19, but they were the clear cut WR1's for their teams.

I'd feel more confident in Keenan if they didn't have so many other people to compete with for targets. Godwin's main competition is Evans.
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06-23-2024 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Historically speaking, WRs that are 32 years or older don't put up great numbers.

There are some outliers, Thielen last season and Edelman in '19, but they were the clear cut WR1's for their teams.

I'd feel more confident in Keenan if they didn't have so many other people to compete with for targets. Godwin's main competition is Evans.
There’s pros and cons . They can’t double him and their best corner won’t be on him. He won’t get as many targets but still think he gets a ton of targets . I’m not worried bout Rome .
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06-24-2024 , 02:02 PM
QB) Lamar, JJ McCarthy

RB) K Walker, Conner, Pollard, Singletary, Lloyd, R Davis

WR) Lamb, Neighbors, D Smith, D Johnson, B Cooks, J Burton, Bateman

TE) Andrews, Jonnu, J Woods.

I pushed D Jones to round 17 and got sniped. Then panicked and took a third TE. Almost completely screwed myself out of a back up by getting greedy.
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06-24-2024 , 02:34 PM
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QB) Lamar, JJ McCarthy

RB) K Walker, Conner, Pollard, Singletary, Lloyd, R Davis

WR) Lamb, Neighbors, D Smith, D Johnson, B Cooks, J Burton, Bateman

TE) Andrews, Jonnu, J Woods.

I pushed D Jones to round 17 and got sniped. Then panicked and took a third TE. Almost completely screwed myself out of a back up by getting greedy.
You took nabers in the 2nd? I like this team anyways except you aren’t 100% sure you have a backup qb
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06-24-2024 , 02:52 PM
That entire tier of most of rd2- most of rd3 WRs is pretty flat. Nabers in the 2nd is fine

Naked JJ is kinda gross, but w Lamar hopefully it doesn’t matter too much
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06-24-2024 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmymcgill8
That entire tier of most of rd2- most of rd3 WRs is pretty flat. Nabers in the 2nd is fine

Naked JJ is kinda gross, but w Lamar hopefully it doesn’t matter too much
Not taking D Jones in the 16th was a major mistake. I missed out on the Nabers stack and almost missed out on a QB who at least might be playing week 14 when Jackson is off. I should have known team one would go QB since he had to know they would all be gone with his last pick. Also, I think D Jones is gonna have a big year. He finally has an alpha to throw too. This could be similar to when Josh Allen got Diggs to throw too.

I agree with this being a pretty flat tier. I used to hate the idea of taking Achane or Nabers this early but these guy's could easily have major blow up games and are superior talents.
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06-24-2024 , 03:06 PM
Yeah, I do a lot of mixing and matching with the rd2 and rd3 WRs. I just pulled DK up to 18 to pair with JJ, since DK usually goes at the 2/3 turn. Then I'll add another WR in the mid 3rd to be somewhat unique.

I've been viewing the tiers like this:

CeeDee/Reek/Chase/JJ/ARSB

AJB/Puka/Wilson/MHj/London/Olave

Aiyuk/Adams/Nico/Waddle/Deebo/Evans/Nabers/DeVonta/DK/DJM/Diggs/Kupp

Pittman/Zay/Tank/Tee/Pickens/Amari/Kirk/Terry

And then it continues from there. With that said, I've pulled up some of tier 3 into tier 2 when trying to mix and match combos. I'll also mix and match in the 3rd/4th/5th rounds too.

The one I struggle with is Adams. He probably belongs in tier 2 as the clear cut #1 WR option on his team, but I just worry about his end of season projections.

Most of that fourth tier could also be argued to be about the same as tier 3.

I've seen posts on X with guys adjusting target share something like .5% and that moves a receiver up or down like 10 spots within their position rank since it's all so close.

Kupp is still my biggest round 3 target, especially over guys like DJM and Diggs.

Last edited by tarheels2222; 06-24-2024 at 03:11 PM.
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06-24-2024 , 03:07 PM
The good news is that Lamar's bye is Week 14, so quite possible that JJ is starting by then.

But if he's not that lineup is dead in the water.
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