Btw can we FINALLY agree Hunter Renfrow is dynasty cooked? I was just early



Who do you guys like to be relevant in dynasty in two years, and who is a sell, from this list:

Brian Robinson
Nico Collins
Tank Dell
Puka
Tutu

Haha, you were right about Renfrow, but I still don't think DPJ is worth much . Hoping that Tillman overtakes him as the season goes on.

If you can get a first for any of those guys, I'd snap that. I'd probably even do a 1/2 swap for all. But I don't think I'd take a single 2nd straight up for any, except maybe Tutu. As far as long term value, I'd rank them:

Nico
Puka
Tank
BRob
Tutu

But all 5 are looking pretty good through 2 games.

Browns Steelers tonight should be eye opening for fantasy I'd think. Kind of excited for that one.

+1

Started E.Moore in my flex spot over M.Brown cause of this. So instead of winning I know need 9.01 points to win

I'm trying to sell for literally anything, I'll give you that one. If Meyers is out in a game we're losing for 50 minutes and he gets one target then it's probably not happening again ever. Maybe he gets a move in the off-season and has some sort of minor Jamison Crowder-esque resurgence but that can work on another team afaic

In terms of the five players you list I'd go Puka, Brob, Nico, Tank then a huge gap to Atwell

I see Puka as being the clear number 1 in this list and wouldn't even snap a 1st for him right now, unless it was gtd to be top 6 I guess.

Really don't see how we can be putting Collins ahead of him. I'm viewing Puka as being this years ARSB except he's broke through very early

So dumb, and that reminds me, I also started Moore in one spot because of it. Thankfully, I'm still going to win that one.

The good news is Amari won't be 100%, so hopefully Moore gets you there.

The main difference to me is that Nico has a path to be #1 on his team. And we have a few years of solid metrics on Nico, even if the production hasn't been there. Matt Harmon's Reception Perception has liked Nico. Now he has a young quality QB who is already targeting Nico heavily, and CJ's best trait coming out of school was accuracy.

Puka has looked incredible, but it's still only been 2 games and Kupp will be back at some point, even if it's worst case not until next year. Kupp's contract basically guarantees him being on the team through 2024 and very likely 2025. 2026 is the first year where cutting him will likely make sense if he's no longer producing.

ARSB was a better prospect and has less target competition.

I also worry about Stafford's long term future. Stafford has mastered the McVay offense, and I'm really not sure what it'd take for another QB to replicate the way Kupp and Puka have thrived in this offense.

I'm not saying I don't like Puka, and all 5 guys Rafi listed have a wide range of total career outcomes. But I would 100% take a random first for a guy who was 5th round real life pick, a 4/5 rookie draft pick, or in some leagues, picked up off of waivers after the rookie draft. In my opinion, that's one way to profit big in dynasty. I'd rather offload the player who has seen a massive spike in value off of 2 games and hold the first, which is guaranteed to hold value, and in most instances, guaranteed to increase in value.

I know it's lol1980s, but here is the career of Earl Cooper, the guy whose reception record Puka just broke. Earl was also listed as an RB/TE.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...C/CoopEa00.htm

Also, in relooking at the list, I think I need to put BRob ahead of Tank, especially if I'm arguing for Nico to be the #1. Although, I really do like Tank and think the people that knock his size are being closed minded. Especially with how the game is being played right now.

So I'll lock in

Nico
Puka
BRob
Tank
Tutu

Btw as a Kupp owner, Puka and KW are making me feel WAY better. I don't think they want to punt this season. I think this team wants to play, and what's Kupp in there. I also kind of like Puka across from Kupp. That's going to be deadly when ready. God willing!

Yup, they are definitely still trying to compete, so hopefully that means Kupp is back. In one league (superflex), my top 3 picks were Chase, Kupp, Ridley, so yesterday was a lot of fun. Kupp pick was made before the reinjury. Got lucky to win in week 1 with my opponent having Rodgers and down by 9 or so points.

Rams have a chance to win on Monday if Joe misses, and probably have a good chance even if Joe doesn't go with how that team has been playing. And then they get Indy week 4. Could be 3-1, or hopefully at least 2-2, by the time Kupp is eligible to return.

Honestly, what I'm more worried about now is Kupp returning and having his 30%+ target share decreasing. It won't be as necessary with Puka, Tutu, and Kyren showing out.

But one thing that I am confident on, and have been for a while, is that Van Jefferson sucks haha.

As a dynasty owner I couldn't disagree more. I want less targets, less snaps, better health. I'll take 20% of a watermelon over 100% of a grape (if you catch my drift)

Haha, I don’t have any dynasty shares so my motivations are different. I need max usage for best ball and redraft.

Can anyone share a good site for fantasy trade values? Redraft mainly, but if there is an option for dynasty also, that would be appreciated.

Made a Pittman for Stevenson trade (I received Stevenson) in a PPR league and was curious how I did. I have Ekeler and Gainwell on IR, and K Williams, Mattison, and Pacheco starting at the moment, with Singletary on the bench.

For WR, I have Hill, Hopkins, Jeudy starting, G Davis, A Robinson, and Jameson Williams on the bench. Pittman was a flex option.

10 team league, 1 QB, PPR.

Thoughts?

Puka has 35 targets in two career games, that’s outlier levels of absurd. earning targets is generally considered a skill. I would take that type of insane upside + Stafford. Over a guy that may be solid + Stroud as his qb. I legitimately don’t think it’s close even if Kupp came back in week 5 this year

Let the Jerome Ford bidding begin!

I’m not going to abandon process after 2 games. He’s had a hell of a start, but to say a guy coming back who earned a 30% target share over a large enough sample and will be on the team for a foreseeable future isn’t something to be concerned about is crazy.

Puka had one college game out of 32 where he had double digit receptions. He never caught more than 50 balls or 800 (technically hit 805 his junior year) yards in a college season. He was a 5th round pick.

Earning targets is definitely a skill, but the guy is also running insanely hot right now. Like you said, it’s outlier insane. No one does that, not even JJ. Even if I take JJ’s best two games overall, he earned only 32 targets. Let’s see what happens when defenses start scheming for Puka.

It’s not like Nico has been a slouch. He’s scored 41.6 PPR against Puka’s 52 PPR. Nico has earned 20 targets so far from a rookie QB who has looked good through 2 games.

I was down 45 points in a matchup with the Saints D going and decided to drop them for Jerome Ford. Nice run good there.

Great move. He may be an unload player and I only have $174 out of $200

Yeah, he’s got to be an unload player.

The Browns options are to bring back Hunt, who they already didn’t want. So that’s unlikely.

Target Fournette. Maybe?

Ride Ford, which seems the most likely.

I guess someone like Darrell Henderson is still out there.

They could trade for Akers but lol.

But it’s likely to be Ford and Pierre Strong, and Strong was more of a depth trade. They have someone named Hassan Hall on the practice squad.

They can’t afford to trade for someone like JT.

Christian Watson was just dropped in one of my yahoo leagues. Should he be a priority add? I feel he'll get a high volume once healthy.

He is definitely a priority add. He should be rostered in even the shallowest of leagues with his upside.

Also, speaking of RBs and watching the Saints + Jamaal’s injury, Kamara and Kendre should be targets if you can buy them. Kendre is probably on a lot of wires, especially in 10 man and 8 man. Tony Jones is actually producing in this offense, although, running good on goal line TDs haha.

Cbs trade values

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/fo...ng-trades-now/

Updated one should come out in a few days

According to that, Stevenson had a value of 17, with Pittman being an 8. Would indicate the trade favored me.

Jerome Ford! He’s exhausted lol. Poor guy down at the half yard line then Strong punches that in.