Guy reneged (verbal offer) and then offered an absurdly bad trade.

Ended up negotiating down to

Diggs + White + Cooks

For

Kupp + Tee + Mattison

Don’t feel great about it and I probably should’ve pulled white out once he removed Gibbs but I guess if Kupp plays then I won the trade

Yeah, definitely need Kupp to play for that to pay off. Once he pulled Gibbs, I probably would have tried Tee + Kupp for Diggs.

White and Mattison pretty even. Cooks just a depth piece.

In the moment I felt like Mattison was a decent upgrade over white, just bc I saw that White had the least yds over expectation or whatever even though he’s in a solid role. Feel like there’s a decent chance he loses his job before Mattison, but idk if that was correct logic/reasoning or not

It’s possible. I view them both evenly, because I don’t think either is that good. At least Mattison is in the better offense.

I do think it’s more likely White loses his job to Tucker than Mattison to Chandler. But I’m not sure how likely it is for either. Not like Tucker or Chandler did much in their opportunities.

Mattison>>White but I struggle to see either as a league winner

That’s a good way to put it.

I know its too late for you to change, but this makes no sense. Since you have 1 empty roster spot and are guaranteed to get Allgeier, you can never possibly get Puka. Even if nobody else puts a claim in, you would need to drop someone, so it would go all the way down to your 6th claim where you are dropping Gibson for Gainwell as the next one that could ever process.

I think in general people make a lot of dumb mistakes with waivers. Kind of like taking a TE when someone has 2 picks before you pick again and they already have a TE on their roster.

Hey man, thanks for your reply and thanks for pointing this out. Ya I messed this up and will adjust it. I'm guaranteed the first person I want which will use up an empty slot, so any other waiver add needs to drop someone.

With managing seven teams, ya things can slip my mind and I can get sloppy. Thanks for saving me here though!

Should I drop any of Swift / Zeke / Dillon for Zack Moss? I like Moss’ upside vs. all of these guys with Deon Jackson looking terrible and with Taylor likely out the door.

I think you gotta grab Moss regardless - would probably rate the drops Zeke/Swift/Dillon, would not want to drop Swift just yet until we see how touches distribute if Gainwell doesn't play.

Thoughts on this trade offer in PPR 12 man

I offered Jaylen Warren for Jared Goff to a team that has Najee + Lawrence/Goff/Love

my other relevant players - also, we are capped at 7 RBs so gotta dump somebody when JT comes off IR anyway

Geno

Monty
J Cook
Mostert
Taylor
Hunt
Kelley
Chandler

I think the other team should snap accept. You lose on this one and reward the guy hoarding two WW qbs (and 3 total qbs) on his roster.

Was thinking of dropping Diontae Johnson or even JuJu for Nico or Jaylen Warren, good idea? They would be fighting with Puka, Kyren and Scary for time in the flex.

I did a drastic chute pull in my only serious redraft league. Tossed Higbee, Tryelon Burks, Charb, and my kicker for Kelley, Collins, Hunter Henry and the 49ers kicker (who should be a busy guy).


What are you guys doing with Chark? He's floating out there on waivers. Someone has to catch there right?

Moot point now; guy declined and countered with Warren for Love so I told him if he is that high on Goff we should rework a counter for Lawrence and that was met with crickets.

Looks like the Geno ****-show will return for a 2nd engagement this Sunday.

My body is so ready for Goedart, Njoku, Muth, Pitts, Higbee, Shultz, Okonkwo, JJ, Kincaid etc to ALL score under 8 pts this weekend turning this year into the true TE disaster we all deserve.

I don't think there is a ton of difference in Goff or Love, and I could see Love being the higher scorer by the end of the year. I know it was lolBears, but Love has some weapons and scored well, even without Watson. So if your main goal is dumping a RB for a second QB, I'd be fine with either for Warren.

I also think Hunt is droppable now. Even if he's signed, I don't think it'll matter.

I might try to capitalize on Mostert's decent week 1 and see if you can move him for something elsewhere if you're trying to move a RB.

I think Chark immediately plays over Marshall and the top 3 WRs are Thielen, Chark, Mingo. But I'm not sure how much it'll matter. I do think the offense will improve, but we looked pretty ****ing rough against a mid defense.

Definitely don't drop Dillon with Jones's hammy uncertainty. Are you able to drop players after they've played? If so, I'd see what Swift looks like tomorrow night, and then maybe drop him. If not, I think dropping Zeke is probably fine, but I don't think I'd do it for Moss.

While Deon Jackson looked terrible, Moss is also terrible. Dude is a straight JAG that should definitely not be a starter. Hull going on IR gives them both a slight boost until JT's situation is sorted out, but even if JT is moved, I don't think anyone in this backfield will ultimately be worth a damn. I think it's more likely JT plays for the Colts than any other team this year; by quite a bit.

I wouldn't drop Diontae, especially if you have room on IR. But it does suck for the reports of him missing a minimum of 4 weeks.

Dropping JuJu is fine for either Nico or Warren. I'd make the decision based on whether I needed RB or WR depth more, and not necessarily who is going to be flex startable. Right now, I probably wouldn't start JuJu, Nico or Warren over the other 3 guys you listed, but Nico is at least in the conversation.

Goff was QB10 last year with a lesser offense, he will be fine.

Agree on Hunt; swapped him for a streaming D(NYG) instead of using Ravens@Angry Cincy

Mostert is what he is, semi-useful sans touch competition and nets ZERO trade interest so we hold & use him until Taylor comes back or if Bourne actually proves to be a usable flex

My point wasn't a knock on Goff, rather I don't think Love is much of a downgrade from Goff if you're seeking a second QB and that's the offer. Goff was 14th in PPG last year and is what he is. Love and Goff are both mid level QB2s with low to mid QB1 weekly upside. The Lions defense also looked improved, which could lessen the shootout potential for the Lions and limit Goff's upside.

I agree, I wouldn't trade for Mostert, but some leagues could box score watch and see he played 73% of the snaps and scored a TD on a good offense and be willing to trade for him if they are light at RB. Especially if another QB is the goal.

How much are we knocking Gainwell down as top WW pickup (over Puka and KWilliams) given the current injury. Assuming a teams needs are neutral are we still taking gainwell over the other two (i assume yes on KWill, more curious on puka)

I already had the 2 rams + Allgeier slightly above Gainwell

The two biggest names I had to drop yesterday were Jaylen Warren and Courtland Sutton. Warren got alot of preseason hype, but didn't produce much week 1. If the PIT offense struggles again this year, he might not have as much value as preseason.

I also dropped Sutton to pick up Joshua Kelley after waivers cleared and he was sitting there as a free agent. It was tougher to drop Sutton, but I just looked at DEN passing stats, and they averaged 6.6 yards per reception and Russ only threw for 177 yards. When Jeudy comes back that will definitely eat into Sutton's targets.

Anyone else with some tough drops? I just listened to the ETR waiver podcast, and Levitan said that this week's waivers were the best he could remember or the best of all time. I definitely agree. I think there were about five players available that have potential to be difference makers throughout the season. Most weeks that number would be one or zero.

Warren's value is in a Najee injury thats what you should have been drafting him for and as a desperate flex play so I don't see why you'd put much weight on his week 1 performance