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09-12-2023 , 02:14 AM


I have the #1 waiver claim priority in one of my leagues. I'm stronger at RB than WR, but I feel like Allgeier is the most valuable guy available. He seems to be splitting work in a backfield that will run more than any other offense in the NFL. He also serves as a handcuff to Bijon if he were to get hurt. My team will be pretty stacked at RB and I'll just try to work some trade offers for WRs.

Puka looks like a nice add as well. Stafford likes to lock onto his favorite targets and that seemed to be the case here. Puka could maintain his value if/when Kupp returns, but to what extent is uncertain.

Joshua Kelley looks really interesting, but I'm not sure how much of his usage came because of Ekelar's injury. I wasn't able to see any of that game. If Ekelar misses week 2, that definitely elevates Kelley to a top 24 RB at least.

Gainwell ranks as #1 on the Fantasy Pros waiver wire rankings. Being the lead back in a top offense has huge value, but it's strange PHI has decided to go with him as a lead back, considering he has been around for years and they have never made him a priority before.

Who do you guys intend to prioritize for waivers?
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09-12-2023 , 10:51 AM
Lol, Zay.

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09-12-2023 , 11:07 AM
This sums up the week.

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09-12-2023 , 11:13 AM
Rodgers officially out for the season with a torn Achilles.
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09-12-2023 , 11:15 AM
10 tm .5ppr QB/2RB/2WR/TE/2 Flex

Was offered

Kupp + Tee + Gibbs for my Diggs + Cooks. It feels like an accept, but Kupp could be dead and I’d be giving up Diggs for 2 riskier players

My current roster

Qb - Lamar
Rb - JT, White, Perine, Warren, McKinnon (dropping)
Wr - Chase, Diggs, Lamb, Big Mike, Cooks, Johnston
Te - Freiermuth, Kincaid, Likely (dropping)

I may also be trading Lamar for Allen if that matters with the Diggs stack (I’m guessing it doesn’t). Allen owner hates Allen and loves Lamar
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09-12-2023 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Lol, Zay.

That's interesting. Think it'll be more interesting by week 3-4. Post it again then? Thanks for the great content.

But my Dallas Goedart few shares are ouch from that. Treylon Burks too.

Most of the lower left quadrant was otherwise pretty firmly in my do not draft list. I already cut Thielen before his game even ended, lol.
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09-12-2023 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by stacker604


I have the #1 waiver claim priority in one of my leagues. I'm stronger at RB than WR, but I feel like Allgeier is the most valuable guy available. He seems to be splitting work in a backfield that will run more than any other offense in the NFL. He also serves as a handcuff to Bijon if he were to get hurt. My team will be pretty stacked at RB and I'll just try to work some trade offers for WRs.

Puka looks like a nice add as well. Stafford likes to lock onto his favorite targets and that seemed to be the case here. Puka could maintain his value if/when Kupp returns, but to what extent is uncertain.

Joshua Kelley looks really interesting, but I'm not sure how much of his usage came because of Ekelar's injury. I wasn't able to see any of that game. If Ekelar misses week 2, that definitely elevates Kelley to a top 24 RB at least.

Gainwell ranks as #1 on the Fantasy Pros waiver wire rankings. Being the lead back in a top offense has huge value, but it's strange PHI has decided to go with him as a lead back, considering he has been around for years and they have never made him a priority before.

Who do you guys intend to prioritize for waivers?
I'd have switched Gainwell and Puka, but since you're the #1 you're getting your guy anyway so don't bother fixing it.

One thing I tend to like doing when I'm the #1 is getting a second guy if I need one. So like the #1 and the #9 or however your league will do it. This of course is predicated on a bench being bad enough to warrant this, or injuries.
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09-12-2023 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmymcgill8
10 tm .5ppr QB/2RB/2WR/TE/2 Flex

Was offered

Kupp + Tee + Gibbs for my Diggs + Cooks. It feels like an accept, but Kupp could be dead and I’d be giving up Diggs for 2 riskier players

My current roster

Qb - Lamar
Rb - JT, White, Perine, Warren, McKinnon (dropping)
Wr - Chase, Diggs, Lamb, Big Mike, Cooks, Johnston
Te - Freiermuth, Kincaid, Likely (dropping)

I may also be trading Lamar for Allen if that matters with the Diggs stack (I’m guessing it doesn’t). Allen owner hates Allen and loves Lamar
I think that's a smash accept, especially since you also have Chase and Lamb. You don't really need Cooks, and Tee still has upside and should end the season as a mid to high end WR2. But the upside of Kupp returning, plus adding Gibbs with your weak RB room, makes sense and is worth moving Diggs, imo.

Even if Kupp doesn't return, you could still win this trade depending on how Gibbs performs the rest of the way. And if Kupp does return, you're absolutely smashing. I think there is a pretty good chance Kupp returns, and I said in a previous post, the Rams winning the first game is a real positive for Kupp's outlook.
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09-12-2023 , 11:35 AM
Here's my toughest choice on this 0-1 PPR team where I REALLY don't like my bench here. Thielen already got swapped out.

Current:

Charb
Akers
Treylon Burks
Musgrave (grabbed for Thielen)


Available:

Kyren Williams
Roshon
Joshua Kelley

Nico Collins
Puka
Bourne
Atwell
Shaheed


I'm usually too reactionary, but it feels like Charb for any of those backs (with KW top choice), and Treylon for Puka (but maybe even Collins, Bourne, Shaheed) is probably a must. I know draft capital matters, but I don't see how Treylon does enough to ever see the field for me. Probably should have been a DND player.
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09-12-2023 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Lol, Zay
As a Flowers dynasty owner I am not sure if that graphic is meant to be good or bad, but who the **** releases that without some sort of colour coding which is trivial to do in any half decent graphing program?
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09-12-2023 , 01:23 PM
It's good for him since Lamar was targeting Zay as his first read a very high percentage of the time, and the aDot was low. Basically, they want to get the ball in Zay's hands quickly and let him go to work with YAC. Obviously only one game, but it's clear this guy was chosen to fit perfectly into what Monken wants to do. And with the loss of JK, I imagine they'll try even harder to get the ball in Zay's hand near the LOS.

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09-12-2023 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Here's my toughest choice on this 0-1 PPR team where I REALLY don't like my bench here. Thielen already got swapped out.

Current:

Charb
Akers
Treylon Burks
Musgrave (grabbed for Thielen)


Available:

Kyren Williams
Roshon
Joshua Kelley

Nico Collins
Puka
Bourne
Atwell
Shaheed


I'm usually too reactionary, but it feels like Charb for any of those backs (with KW top choice), and Treylon for Puka (but maybe even Collins, Bourne, Shaheed) is probably a must. I know draft capital matters, but I don't see how Treylon does enough to ever see the field for me. Probably should have been a DND player.
Trying to figure all of this out on week 1 is a mess, and it's tough to not be too reactionary. But if you wait and see, you're already too late. Honestly, I think I'd rather drop Akers over Charb, but if you want to simply compare volume, obviously Akers won week 1. Akers has a better weekly floor, but I think Charb's upside is far greater, especially if KW gets injured.

Kelley is a short term play if Ekeler's ankle is ****ed. Kyren and Roschon are end of season plays, and I'd give the slight nod to Roschon hoping he continues eating into Khalil and Foreman. But a lot of Roschon's work did come with the Bears far behind and out of it.

For the receivers, Puka is the clear short-term play. I like Tutu more long-term, assuming Kupp returns, especially because Van Jefferson is very bad. Nico and Woods were the clear top guys for Hou, so I'd prioritize Nico the most of this group, as he's both nice short and long term.

Bourne, I have no idea.

Shaheed will be fun, but I think he'll be frustrating to have in managed leagues. He's better suited for best ball or DFS.

The good news for Treylon is he played the most snaps and ran the most routes. The bad news for Treylon is that only resulted in 3 targets, 10 less than Nuk and 4 less than NWI. Tanne is ****ing dust.

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09-12-2023 , 01:49 PM
Buy Josh Downs for $0 in deeper leagues. Things are looking up for Indiana. Richardson will get better each week. Taylor will be back week 5.
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09-12-2023 , 02:46 PM
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Buy Josh Downs for $0 in deeper leagues. Things are looking up for Indiana. Richardson will get better each week. Taylor will be back week 5.
Definitely an interesting name to consider for end of the bench and monitor - there are worse things than a $0 WR with upside and his draft comparable made me laugh.

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Kadarius Toney
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09-12-2023 , 02:58 PM
I think I'm totally fine burning Treylon Burks to the ground right now based on all the signs. For the 30-40% of the time I'm wrong here I'll live with it.
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09-12-2023 , 03:03 PM
In a pickle now since I basically ignored QB during my draft.

Have: Geno + Rodgers

Best Avail: R Wilson, Love, Howell, Carr, Jones

Also technically Avail: Tannehill, Mayfield, Garoppolo, Pickett, Stafford, Young, Stroud, Ridder, Dobbs and Zach Wilson

Kyler Murray also hanging around on waivers but I am using my IR slot for JT

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09-12-2023 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by boscoboy
In a pickle now since I basically ignored QB during my draft.

Have: Geno + Rodgers

Best Avail: R Wilson, Love, Howell, Carr, Jones

Also technically Avail: Tannehill, Mayfield, Garoppolo, Pickett, Stafford, Young, Stroud, Ridder, Dobbs and Zach Wilson

Kyler Murray also hanging around on waivers but I am using my IR slot for JT
I would carry geno and one of Jones/Love/Howell. The injured OTs for Seattle a big problem, but i still think Geno works out this season and filling in with the other 3 to me works just fine (esp if the rest of your roster is stronger for having waited). Half of the owners of top 10 qbs kind of wish they had done what you did
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09-12-2023 , 03:57 PM
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Definitely an interesting name to consider for end of the bench and monitor - there are worse things than a $0 WR with upside and his draft comparable made me laugh.

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Kadarius Toney
That comparison is an insult haha. Toney is a bum with **** hands who doesn't know how to run routes or stay on the field. Downs was one of the best route runners in the class, has incredible hands, and plays well above his size. He was a beast for two straight years with UNC and was an early declare. I scooped him in multiple spots in dynasty. Reggie Wayne called Downs the best WR in the class (which is a stretch lol). But Indy is very high on him, and his production and participation in week 1 with rookie AR was encouraging.
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09-12-2023 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by boscoboy
In a pickle now since I basically ignored QB during my draft.

Have: Geno + Rodgers

Best Avail: R Wilson, Love, Howell, Carr, Jones

Also technically Avail: Tannehill, Mayfield, Garoppolo, Pickett, Stafford, Young, Stroud, Ridder, Dobbs and Zach Wilson

Kyler Murray also hanging around on waivers but I am using my IR slot for JT
I’d hold Geno + Dimes. I know Dimes just played an atrocious game, but I’m not too worried about it
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09-12-2023 , 04:52 PM
One of my struggles when it comes to waiver wire activity, especially early on, is who to drop when adding someone. Any thoughts on potential drop candidates of those likely drafted?
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09-12-2023 , 05:16 PM
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I’d hold Geno + Dimes. I know Dimes just played an atrocious game, but I’m not too worried about it
My fault - should've specified Michael McCorkle "Mac" Jones is my available option.
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09-12-2023 , 05:41 PM
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One of my struggles when it comes to waiver wire activity, especially early on, is who to drop when adding someone. Any thoughts on potential drop candidates of those likely drafted?
Who is on your bench?

For my team it's an easy Deon Jackson. All the volume none of the talent. Though I'm still keeping Justyn Ross so take any advice with a pinch of salt
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09-12-2023 , 06:28 PM
I have some Michael Mayer I can drop, some Hyatt, some Ahmed. Luckily no tough decisions yet, but i know eventually I'll have a tough decision.
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09-12-2023 , 07:04 PM
In redraft all them seem dropable but a small part of me would be tempted to hold Hyatt as the Giants don't seem to have sorted the WR situation.

In dynasty obv we're holding Mayer and Hyatt but Ahmed I don't have any hope for
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09-12-2023 , 07:13 PM
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I have some Michael Mayer I can drop, some Hyatt, some Ahmed. Luckily no tough decisions yet, but i know eventually I'll have a tough decision.
I would say all of them are fine too drop but part of me would be tempted to hold Hyatt as the Giants don't seem to have the WR position sorted just yet.

There is a lot of potential with Mayer but no targets on game 1 isn't a great sign and looks like he'll follow the prototype rookie season of flashes but never safe to start.

Ahmed needs a lot of injuries for anything good to happen there and I still see the Dolphin's signing another QB before the trade window closes
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