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08-30-2023 , 12:40 PM
k, well from the 7 my thoughts then (see any huge leaks guys?)



#7 Kelce > Kupp > Bijan > Saquon

I'm seeing Kupp go as late as 12th these days. But in a world where you play to win the game, that's potentially the WR1. Dunno how I can leave him there as risky as it is. If he busts the season busts, that's life. I'm sold on the younger Bijan legs there as my #3.

#17 Chubb > Pollard > Devante Adams > Henry > Jacobs

The wideouts all go in that turn. Chubb and Pollard are basically never there at 18. Realistically it's Henry/Adams/Jacobs decision. Wonder if I'm too low on Jacobs? If you don't go RB here and took Kelce in round 1, this quickly escalates into zero RB....

#31 Devonta Smith > Higgins >Tops 3 QBs > Rhamondre > Ridley > DK > Mixon > Najee > Etienne

The hot mess begins. You never want to leave Smith or Higgins there. Probably have to take Rhamondre if he's there. So basically you never take Mixon/Etienne/Najee. At 31 most of the time the top 3 QBs are gone. I probably draft any of them before Rhamondre

I won't do other picks, but basically if you ascribe to needing a top QB in zero RB, it means Lamar Jackson in the 4th or one of Herbert/Burrow/Fields in the 5th. Draft sort of picks itself after that.

Battle plan about right? I only do this one redraft league. Other league is dynasty where I go for the 3peat (eat it 2p2 dinks!)
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08-30-2023 , 01:16 PM
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k, well from the 7 my thoughts then (see any huge leaks guys?)



#7 Kelce > Kupp > Bijan > Saquon

I'm seeing Kupp go as late as 12th these days. But in a world where you play to win the game, that's potentially the WR1. Dunno how I can leave him there as risky as it is. If he busts the season busts, that's life. I'm sold on the younger Bijan legs there as my #3.

#17 Chubb > Pollard > Devante Adams > Henry > Jacobs

The wideouts all go in that turn. Chubb and Pollard are basically never there at 18. Realistically it's Henry/Adams/Jacobs decision. Wonder if I'm too low on Jacobs? If you don't go RB here and took Kelce in round 1, this quickly escalates into zero RB....

#31 Devonta Smith > Higgins >Tops 3 QBs > Rhamondre > Ridley > DK > Mixon > Najee > Etienne

The hot mess begins. You never want to leave Smith or Higgins there. Probably have to take Rhamondre if he's there. So basically you never take Mixon/Etienne/Najee. At 31 most of the time the top 3 QBs are gone. I probably draft any of them before Rhamondre

I won't do other picks, but basically if you ascribe to needing a top QB in zero RB, it means Lamar Jackson in the 4th or one of Herbert/Burrow/Fields in the 5th. Draft sort of picks itself after that.

Battle plan about right? I only do this one redraft league. Other league is dynasty where I go for the 3peat (eat it 2p2 dinks!)
Kupp is clearly the best player of that group. Kelce clear 2nd, I don't have Bijan or Saquon in this range, but it's fine. Prefer Bijan

In Rd 2 if I'm going Kupp, my preference is to get Pollard, otherwise I go with best wr, which is usually Adams or ASRB. Happy to get Chubb too, but haven't seen him drop there. That's a bit too early for Henry and Jacobs for me

In rd 3 at that spot there's basically no chance you're getting the top 3 qbs. If they do fall grab any of them (Hurts, Allen, Mahomes if my preference) If i get Lamar and Andrews on that turn that is a dream scenario. Otherwise I'm usually grabbing one of those 2 at 3 and then figuring out BPA, unless someone drops really far. All the guys you have listed before Mixon are good. Would not touch Mixon, Najee. Etienne is fine i guess, not too excited about him though
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08-30-2023 , 01:25 PM
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I think Kamara in the 6th is a great example of a 0 RB target - potential RB1 upside if things go his way even missing 3 games. Williams does not have near the upside - he is a plodder that has only one 1k season and 1 double digit TD season no chance in hell he finishes as an RB1 this year

Kinda disagree with your thought to maybe go 0 RB and 0 QB in the same draft, I would rather get 3WR,TE, and QB in the first 5 rounds THEN load up on RB the next 4 or 5 picks. Montgomery would be a good target for later rounds, but I refuse to ever trust Andy Reid to play whichever KC RB on my team. Guaranteed if Pacheco is on my team then CEH will be KC lead rusher
I like Montgomery as well. If I had to take a KC RB I'd prefer McKinnon for his receiving upside especially on a team that loves to pass.
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08-30-2023 , 01:29 PM
Kupp > Kelce if 12-man

Etienne >>>> Najee

Otherwise looks great - maybe I take Tee over Devonta but it’s close.
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08-30-2023 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
#7 Kelce > Kupp > Bijan > Saquon

#17 Chubb > Pollard > Devante Adams > Henry > Jacobs

#31 Devonta Smith > Higgins >Tops 3 QBs > Rhamondre > Ridley > DK > Mixon > Najee > Etienne
As others have posted, Kupp over Kelce in 12 man. I’m taking Kelce in 10 and 8 man, especially the shorter the starting lineup.

Jacobs > Chubb > Pollard > Adams > Henry

Hard for me to not put the guy who just finished as the RB3 first on this list. Jacobs value should no longer be suppressed now that he signed.

I really like Chubb, but we are also just assuming he gets more receiving work. Hunt was dust last year, but everyone assumes extra work for Chubb now. What if the Browns just use Ford/Strong to fill Hunt’s role?

Think you can argue the order of the final 3, but I put the first two solidly ahead.

Your last rankings are way different for me. Ridley > 3QBs > Tee > Devonta > Mixon > Etienne > Mondre > DK > Najee. But I do struggle on the order of Mixon, Etienne and Mondre.

However, if your league fades QB, you can adjust. That one is league dependent. I’m more likely to fade QB in SF than 1QB. I think there is a lot of value in 1QB for the elite guys that can reach 22-25 fantasy points per game.

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I like Montgomery as well. If I had to take a KC RB I'd prefer McKinnon for his receiving upside especially on a team that loves to pass.
I really love Monty this year. Currently working on a zero RB build with Monty and BRob. Zero RB is more feasible than ever in the current committee landscape, especially with some of these elite WRs + Kelce.

And yeah, I’m out on KC RBs, except maybe a late flier on CEH. Tough for me to even take McKinnon at cost because he ran hot as **** at the end of last year.
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08-30-2023 , 03:44 PM
What's the absolute latest we let Jonathan Taylor go? late 5th/early 6th (12 man)?
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08-30-2023 , 03:50 PM
I’m letting him go completely in managed leagues. I have enough exposure in best ball.

I guess he’s probably somewhere in the 60-80 player range, so late 5th would be the absolute earliest I’d consider taking him, depending on my build. But I’ll just let him be someone else’s problem.

Even if he hits the field for Indy, I’m not going to trust the production will come. The only hope if you draft him is for a trade, with a window that has now shrunk by 4 weeks.
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08-30-2023 , 08:53 PM
Hi team!

How do we rank the following rb

In 12 team ppr regular fantasy league versus in 12 team underdog best ball league .5 ppr

1. Matttiso
2. Pierce
3. Sanders
4. Cooks
5. Akers
6. J Williams on Denver
7. Kamara
8. Conner

I have cooks number 1 in that group am I crazy


Feels like flipping a coin
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08-30-2023 , 11:26 PM
.5 PPR 12 teamer; 1qb/2rb/2wr/2flex/1te

I kept hurts, JJ & mike williams for less than the average keeper prices in the league and my 3 are the best combo of players to start the draft. It feels like I let too many high end players go and settled for pollard, harris, conner and andrews.

hurts
pollard, n harris, j conner, jamaal williams, mostert, hubbard, jerome ford
JJ, mike williams, mike evans, marquise brown, alec pierce, MVS
Andrews
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08-30-2023 , 11:46 PM
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Hi team!

How do we rank the following rb

In 12 team ppr regular fantasy league versus in 12 team underdog best ball league .5 ppr

1. Matttiso
2. Pierce
3. Sanders
4. Cooks
5. Akers
6. J Williams on Denver
7. Kamara
8. Conner

I have cooks number 1 in that group am I crazy


Feels like flipping a coin
It feels like Pierce is #1 there. He has been getting hyped since there is speculation he may be an everydown back now, without Burkhead spelling him. Then I'd like Cook/Mattison. Then Akers. I had Conner up higher a few weeks ago, but with all the Cardinals tanking speculation, I'm a bit off from drafting Conner and Marquis now.
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08-30-2023 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
.5 PPR 12 teamer; 1qb/2rb/2wr/2flex/1te

I kept hurts, JJ & mike williams for less than the average keeper prices in the league and my 3 are the best combo of players to start the draft. It feels like I let too many high end players go and settled for pollard, harris, conner and andrews.

hurts
pollard, n harris, j conner, jamaal williams, mostert, hubbard, jerome ford
JJ, mike williams, mike evans, marquise brown, alec pierce, MVS
Andrews
I don't get it. Your 1st Rd pick was Andrews I'm guessing and then the 2nd was Pollard?
Who did you pass on that you ragret?
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08-31-2023 , 01:20 AM
I've done best ball drafts on a couple of sites and the biggest difference I have noticed is on one site the top 3 QB (Hurts, Mahomes, Allen) go later compared to another. One one site they go around picks 22-26ish, where as in another site they are going 16-20.

What does this say about the pools of drafters? Is one group sharper than the other? Or could it just be default rankings influencing decisions. I know this year, more than ever the top QBs are valued higher, because they have been able to rush more than the previous top level QBs. But I'm just wondering what is the actual optimal move as far as valuing and drafting the big three.

I just checked the Yahoo 1/2 PPR rankings right now, that came out on Wednesday. It has them valued at 24, 30 and 33, which is even lower than the range I previously stated.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/fan...135138125.html

EDIT: actually, I just realized those Yahoo rankings are for the regular redraft leagues, where as the drafts I've been doing have been best ball. That gap in range is still interesting though.

Also just curious on your thoughts of targetting the Pollard/Lamb stack when drafting from a late round spot. Do you think this is a good way to go in best ball, or do you think it is not ideal. I definitely try to stack when I can, but at the same time I don't want to pass up on better value picks that are not stacks. I just wonder what is the gap between two players that is break even when it comes to deciding whether or not to stack.

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08-31-2023 , 02:22 AM
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I don't get it. Your 1st Rd pick was Andrews I'm guessing and then the 2nd was Pollard?
Who did you pass on that you ragret?
Sorry. Forgot to mention it was an auction draft.

The league is fairly soft so I usually go stud heavy with little depth and count on plucking 1-2 playable guys from waivers. Starting 2 of Williams, Evans and marquise isn’t ideal with the value I had to start with my keepers.
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08-31-2023 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by skillivey
Hi team!

How do we rank the following rb

In 12 team ppr regular fantasy league versus in 12 team underdog best ball league .5 ppr

1. Matttiso
2. Pierce
3. Sanders
4. Cooks
5. Akers
6. J Williams on Denver
7. Kamara
8. Conner

I have cooks number 1 in that group am I crazy


Feels like flipping a coin
Had my choice of all of these at the 4/5 turn just yesterday and think it's the first two and it's not particularly close. Can't feel confident about Sanders' viability in that offence, the usage of either Cook (I assume you mean Dalvin and not James, but lumping both together), I don't think Akers is that good, Javonte would probably be #1 if we knew he was completely healthy but we don't, Kamara is probably fourth for me on pure talent but he's missing games/getting on a bit/may yield red zone touches, while Conner's just a volume play running into likely eight man boxes all the time
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08-31-2023 , 07:54 AM
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Sorry. Forgot to mention it was an auction draft.

The league is fairly soft so I usually go stud heavy with little depth and count on plucking 1-2 playable guys from waivers. Starting 2 of Williams, Evans and marquise isn’t ideal with the value I had to start with my keepers.
Then yes, I agree with you that you broke the rule of getting a team of middling guys and not one of the superstars. I mean Andrews is no slouch and Pollard has top 3 upside imo but would be interesting to know who were the big name non keepers.
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08-31-2023 , 12:49 PM
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Then yes, I agree with you that you broke the rule of getting a team of middling guys and not one of the superstars. I mean Andrews is no slouch and Pollard has top 3 upside imo but would be interesting to know who were the big name non keepers.
Felt the need to type all of these out as a way to punish myself for getting a lot of decent guys.

QB
mahomes 41
burrow, lamar, fields 16-19
tlaw, watson 10

RB
CMC, ekeler (222 total to the same guy whose starting Wrs are chark & odell)
henry 96
bijan 91
---pollard 89
barkley 80
jacobs, mixon 77
a jones, gibbs 69
rachadd white 55
---najee 51
mattison 51
JT, breece, miles s 42
dobbins, akers, javonte, kamara 30-33
---conner 31

WR
davante, AJB 74
waddle, metcalf 53
ridley, amari, keenan 43-45
DJM 37
hopkins, christian watson, godwin 28-31
mclaurin, diontae 25
london, pickens, kirk 19-21
aiyuk, lockett 18
---mike evans 18
pittman, addison 15
---marquise brown 12

TE
kelce 74
---andrews 38
kittle, pitts 21
goedert, engram, freiremuth, njoku 10-12
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08-31-2023 , 01:21 PM
Yeah, those are some expensive prices. Didn't notice you also had Najee.
With those kind of prices my opinion is the most reasonable thing you could have done is pony up for a higher end WR2. Your team would be looking much better if you had AJ Brown or something.

Edit: my only auction draft is this weekend and I fully expect it to be a train wreck.
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08-31-2023 , 01:55 PM
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Starting 2 of Williams, Evans and marquise isn’t ideal with the value I had to start with my keepers.
With the Wilson news, if you can flip Mostert plus one of Evans/Hollywood for a WR upgrade to a team weak at RB.

I like Mike. You should be excited about him. At least until he sprains his knee is week 5.

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08-31-2023 , 09:49 PM
10 Team PPR, QB, 3WR, 2RB, Flex, TE, Def and K.

Picking from the 10 slot:

1. Diggs
2. Barkley
3. Andrews
4. Mixon
5. Hopkins
6. Godwin
7. Dionte
8. Scary
9. Hollywood
10. Trevor Lawrence
11. Schuster
12. Quentin Johnston
13. Baltimore
14. Koo
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08-31-2023 , 10:30 PM
Am I seeing only 2 RBs?
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08-31-2023 , 10:45 PM
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Am I seeing only 2 RBs?
Yes, you are, clearly I am going to be all over the RB WW for even a hint of talent or the slightest injury of any of the major RBs.

Miles Sanders or Pacheco in the 6th? Dalvin in the 8th? Gibson in the 10th? Ugh. Anything after that is just as good as the WW is now.
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09-01-2023 , 12:19 AM
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Yes, you are, clearly I am going to be all over the RB WW for even a hint of talent or the slightest injury of any of the major RBs.

Anything after that is just as good as the WW is now.
Try to trade one of your WRs for an RB if possible. And prob drop Q. Johnson for the best RB thats on waivers.
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09-01-2023 , 12:27 AM
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Try to trade one of your WRs for an RB if possible. And prob drop Q. Johnson for the best RB thats on waivers.
There hasn't been a trade in this league in over 5 years, even if I offered an WR that went 2 rounds earlier than the RB I am asking for, I would still get turned down.

Ok, then Q. Johnson gets dropped for McKinnon, Singletary or Patterson, I mean, those guys will probably be around in 4 or 5 weeks when I need them with a few other RBs that would have improved their position in that time.
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09-01-2023 , 12:47 AM
I'd say go for McKinnon then, he might have PPR appeal if you need to play him. Singletary for injury upside.

But Quentin is WR3/4 on that team, and I don't think you're using him anytime soon.
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09-01-2023 , 02:00 AM
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Am I seeing only 2 RBs?
Failed reading comprehension
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