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08-19-2022 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
.5 ppr where you must keep exactly 11 for free for as long as you want.
Qb/2rb/3wr/te/2flex

Keep:
Hurts
Javonte, saquon, a jones
Aj brown, diontae, amari, Amon st brown, Hopkins, Gabriel Davis
Hockenson

Not keep:
Godgers, Rashaad penny, juju, will fuller & Corey Davis

We haven’t had our draft and I will likely end up with one top 5 rookie and a bunch of bums.
Ended up giving up Gabriel Davis, juju, nuk & penny for Godwin. This essentially cuts nuk & Davis from my keepers and subs in Godwin & Godgers.
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08-19-2022 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar1
to me mitchell over dj moore hurt your draft, overall fine though...who are the rbs you like in 7th?
Yep, I'm incredibly low on Moore but this seems like a huge error with 2 RBs and 0 WRs in the team at that point
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08-19-2022 , 09:23 AM
Anyone concerned that Brady isn’t actually coming back?

Would certainly make me fade that entire offense at current price if he doesn’t.
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08-19-2022 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Ended up giving up Gabriel Davis, juju, nuk & penny for Godwin. This essentially cuts nuk & Davis from my keepers and subs in Godwin & Godgers.
Urgh, you should have been able to get Godwin for two of the first three

edit @ tarheels above - not concerned at Brady right now, no
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08-19-2022 , 01:31 PM
I am confused about the Pickens hype train, at least ok redraft. People do know they're in a coin flip for easily the worst QB situation in the league?
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08-19-2022 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
I am confused about the Pickens hype train, at least ok redraft. People do know they're in a coin flip for easily the worst QB situation in the league?
Same man.

I mean I get it in dynasty cause there is a solid route to him being the WR1 there next year.

Saying that I offered him out for a 1st , in the one dynasty I own him, and had a guy offer a 24 1st but canceled it before I woke up. I'm been thinking about offering him Pickens for Palmer and a 2nd but am worried about Pickens actually proving himself whereas I just see Pamler as being a solid WR2 at his ceiling

In redraft I think everyone is just a bit cloudy cause of Claypools rookie year and not understanding cause of his TD rate that it was a bit of a fluke + as you say the QB situation is worse now than 3 years ago.
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08-19-2022 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Anyone concerned that Brady isn’t actually coming back?

Would certainly make me fade that entire offense at current price if he doesn’t.
Whats this from?

haven't actually heard anything apart from a thread title on reddit saying he was doing the masked singer and we should all come down but didn't bother to open it
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08-19-2022 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by J.E.C
Whats this from?

haven't actually heard anything apart from a thread title on reddit saying he was doing the masked singer and we should all come down but didn't bother to open it
Something about the situation just feels off. And especially after Brady retired, then unretired, then got Arians moved, was also involved in the Dolphins tampering, etc. The Bucs say everything was planned, but now it sounds like the plans might be up in the air. For a guy who is usually all in, it just feels like he might already have a foot out the door and is potentially regretting his decision not to retire.

At this point, it's all just conjecture and I guess we should assume he's the QB until we are told he's not. But I'd feel awful about burning 2nd/3rd round picks on Evans and Fournette if Brady ends up not being out there. I was actually way out on those guys when Brady announced he was retiring and now I'm back way in on at least Fournette.

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When Bowles announced that Brady would be stepping away, he said Brady would be back after the Bucs' second preseason game at the Tennessee Titans Saturday night in Nashville, meaning the earliest Brady could return to practicing with the team would be Monday, Aug. 22. But Bowles did not provide a clear return date, and Thursday he said that he wasn't sure when Brady would actually return, despite Brady's absence being pre-planned weeks ago, prior to training camp.

"We'll see," Bowles said Thursday. "We'll talk about it next week. Not concerned about it right now. We're trying to practice against Tennessee and play a game. I said 'sometime after Tennessee.' There's no definitive date for me. But we'll check on it, we'll keep in touch and we'll find out."

Brady has been given off days in the past, but this is the first time he's taken a significant amount of time away from the team during training camp or the preseason in 23 years. He did miss OTAs while he was with the New England Patriots in 2018 to spend more time with his family, but those practices are optional and take place in the spring, long before the regular season begins.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...m-brady-return
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08-19-2022 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
I am confused about the Pickens hype train, at least ok redraft. People do know they're in a coin flip for easily the worst QB situation in the league?
I'd rather have Pickens at his price than Diontae or Claypool at their prices. I think Claypool kind of sucks and could easily see Pickens as the clear WR2 by the end of the year. Muth is decent, but I don't think he's anything special. I could see a world where Mitch/Pickett supports Pickens/Diontae and then no one else. Mitch supported ARob to two WR1 seasons.

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Originally Posted by J.E.C
Same man.

I mean I get it in dynasty cause there is a solid route to him being the WR1 there next year.

Saying that I offered him out for a 1st , in the one dynasty I own him, and had a guy offer a 24 1st but canceled it before I woke up. I'm been thinking about offering him Pickens for Palmer and a 2nd but am worried about Pickens actually proving himself whereas I just see Pamler as being a solid WR2 at his ceiling

In redraft I think everyone is just a bit cloudy cause of Claypools rookie year and not understanding cause of his TD rate that it was a bit of a fluke + as you say the QB situation is worse now than 3 years ago.
Tough for him to be the WR1 next year with Diontae getting that extension, but I guess it's possible he's good enough to surpass Diontae by then. Either way, Diontae could be gone by either end of next season or end of 2024 and then by then Pickens could be the WR1 and possibly even have a new QB if Pickett is really bad.

Hear it from the man himself haha.

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"He's a freak, that's what he is," fellow receiver Diontae Johnson boasted of Pickens, via SI's All Steelers. "He's a freak. That's a special talent. You can't teach some of the things he does. I just be watching like, man, I be amazed at how he catches the ball sometimes. He's young. He's getting better on the daily."

"It's going to be a big plus," Johnson said on the addition of Pickens. "They're not going to be able to cover everyone. They can't double everyone. There's always going to be a one-on-one matchup, it's up to the defense who they're going to cover."
I would have probably taken the 24 1st for him, at least in superflex. I would not take Palmer and a 2nd. I'd ride the Pickens variance over that package. Like you said, Palmer's ceiling (which I also think is very unlikely to hit) is probably a solid WR2. Pickens ceiling is top 10, maybe top 5, imo. He was a hell of a prospect who produced really well as a freshman, got unlucky with the COVID season (and was on a per game basis to outperform his freshman year), then got really unlucky with the ACL tear. 247 rated him as the 24th best prospect, 4th best WR, and top AL prospect coming out of high school. He's got a lot of potential and was drafted by arguably the best organization at developing WRs.

I'm definitely way more excited about Pickens in dynasty than redraft.

Last edited by tarheels2222; 08-19-2022 at 02:54 PM.
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08-19-2022 , 05:51 PM
Where is Wolves? He always had interesting takes
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08-19-2022 , 07:03 PM
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Where is Wolves? He always had interesting takes
Legend
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08-19-2022 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I truly hardly mock anymore, but did one just now just to get a feel for where the runs happen. Some cool decisions to debate that I think will help the board.

a ppr from the #7/12 (I mock there because I find it's the hardest spot), curious how big some of these leaks are:


#7 Najee (over Dalvin and Chase)
2nd: Javonte (over Kamara and Saquon, which we've debated)
3rd: Mark Andrews (clear positional advantage, over Pittman, Aj Brown, Mike Evans)
4th: Eli Mitchell (over Metcalf, Moore, Waddle at WR since I own none yet)
5th: Kyler Murray (my fave pick and I think getting him the 5th is a great strategy this year
6th. Amon-Ra (Things go off the rails a bit here, over Allen Robinson, Renfrow, Amari. I like the gamble)
7th: Gabriel Davis (over a bunch of RBs and I like the pick here for upside)
8th: Cordarelle (But I think I regret not taking Aiyuk here in this spot)
9th: D Pierce (which is wonderful value to me)
10th Drake London (I don't really know what to think, it could have been claypool, toney)
11th Landry (another guy I love getting here as he's gonna catch a ton Id think)
12th Pacheco (who will never last this long
We can ignore the depth

So I must say, seems to me like there's great WR value between the 6th and 11th if you want it. Looks like the 7th is a good spot to go grab an RB too. Guys like Julio going damn late, I could have had him many times for depth.
Taking Chase over Najee and Moore over Mitchell. Obv want to take BPA, but 3 RBs in the first 4 rounds of a PPR draft seems kind of gross.


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I'm a bit surprised how many of you take Saquon over Javonte. Their ADP's are literally neck and neck. I just don't think they should be. I'd take the younger healthier legs there every time.
I'd lean Javonte but Barkley's range of outcomes is much wider than Javonte's so don't mind drafting him due to ceiling.
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08-20-2022 , 01:12 AM
No RB has ever had more than 50 targets in a season playing with Russ.

I'm also worried that Gordon is going to get more of the red zone work than Javonte, or split evenly, while Javonte gets more of the work between the 20s creating his snap % advantage. Let your 29 year old back who is still good enough take that beating and preserve your 22 year old back. Last season, Gordon got 40 RZ rushes while Javonte got 31. It was relatively even, but I'm not sure if Javonte is just going to auto flip him and take like a 45 to 25 advantage.

Gordon also led in total RZ touches at 46 to 37.

This is also crazy. JT had 89 RZ rushes last season. Ekeler was second at 49. JT had 92 total RZ touches while Ekeler was second at 63. Third? Leonard Fournette at 54.
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08-20-2022 , 05:09 AM
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This is also crazy. JT had 89 RZ rushes last season. Ekeler was second at 49. JT had 92 total RZ touches while Ekeler was second at 63. Third? Leonard Fournette at 54.
Wow that is crazy and had no idea about that stat.

If JT maintains this taking Pittman in the 3rd seems pretty bad
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08-20-2022 , 01:00 PM
Points all well taken on Chase over Najee and Moore over Mitchell.

Is Mitchell's workload really not secure?

Honestly in the league I'm mocking for, you can't trade away a WR to save your life, but RB's are so liquid it's crazy. I was under the impression that Eli Mitchell might see nearly RB1 workload, and to flex him and have him to trade was something that tends to work pretty well for me in the past IF I think I can find wideouts that can ball late.

I *think* that's Landry, Gabe Davis, Patterson, Amon-Ra, Drake London. Kind of feels like two guys in there can produce week to week in favorable matchups, but I may be overestimating their upside considerably. We also tend to see pretty easy waiver fill ins at wideout every year, but RB is not so simple in this league of RB hoarders.

I'll put some thought into where I can find reliable RBs later. Pierce is really going late but he'll never last that long in my real draft.

Thanks for the feedback bros. I'll consider dem leaks!
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08-20-2022 , 07:15 PM
Sharp .5ppr league starting 1qb,2rb,3wr,flex,te...assuming taylor,mccafrey,ekeler,henry,cook,harris, cupp,jj,chase gone, whats our plan at the 1/2 turn with the 10th and 15th picks? Viable rb options: Mixon,Kamara,Swift, Chubb,Barkley...viable wr options: diggs, adams, lamb te: kelce...
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08-20-2022 , 07:41 PM
I think it’d be a big win to come out of there with 2/3 of Kamara, Swift, and Barkley. I’m also fine with Fournette if Brady comes back.

I also like Diggs. Diggs at 10 knowing you’ll get one of the RBs you like at 15 is perfectly reasonable. Probably not taking Adams or CD, but I’m admittedly probably a little too low on both. At least low in the sense of picking them over some of those other players on your list.

I don’t really care for Kelce there this year, but I won’t fault anyone for constructing that way.

I wouldn’t consider Chubb at all, even in .5 PPR. Just tough to get excited about that offense with Brissett, or even worse if he gets injured, for 11 games.

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08-21-2022 , 03:09 AM
Yeh I'm aiming for a Diggs at the 10th and plan on taking Kelce if he goes.

Been preferring taking Barkley, Kamara or Mixon at the 15th and then just hammer WR next 4-5 rounds
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08-21-2022 , 08:33 AM
14 team work league, no PPR, two dudes who were just homer picking and stacking GB and DAL players so not very sharp.

I had the 4 and it went JT, Kupp, JJ so I felt like I had to take McCaffrey.

CMC
Saquon - over Fournette and Conner
Pittman - over AJ Brown, and McLaurin. Regretted it as soon as I did it
Diontae Johnson
Waller
Amonra
Alan Robinson
Ken Walker
Kirk Cousins - either him or Carr
Kmet/Indy/D. Carlson

Think it’s hard to rank like 8-20 at WR so it’s less stressful to just go RB/RB and snag whoever’s left.

Got my 15 year running league coming up, and we’re switching to 2QB/1RB/2WR/1TE/2Flex as the format.

12 teams which means 24 QBs at least being picked. Gotta get at least one in the first two rounds right?
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08-21-2022 , 08:38 AM
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Yeh I'm aiming for a Diggs at the 10th and plan on taking Kelce if he goes.

Been preferring taking Barkley, Kamara or Mixon at the 15th and then just hammer WR next 4-5 rounds

I have been in line with you and Tarheel's thinking...diggs at 10 and hopefully kamara at 15...i do slightly prefer the idea of 2 rbs here, but find the wr value at the 3/4 turn to be very underwhelming (usually choosing from the Moore, Mclaurin,Metcalf,Diontae tier...i dont mind moore but don't love the rest)...i have been thinking about going herbert (6pt td league for qbs) and then one of moore, etienne,dobbins at the 3/4 turn and then loading wr at 5/6 where i think the value is better,,,i have also waited on qb and grabbed hurts at 6 some mocks,,,any other thoughts appreciated
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08-21-2022 , 10:22 AM
That's funny, I'm #10 in a similar league.

So is our general consensus in ppr something like

Dalvin > Mixon > Kamara > Barkley > Aaron Jones > Chubb = Fournette

Seems that's all in that range
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08-21-2022 , 10:44 AM
What's the latest we let Pacheco fall? 11-12th?
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08-21-2022 , 11:21 AM
How close is Adams vs Diggs in PPR? That's tough to me.
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08-21-2022 , 11:58 AM
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That's funny, I'm #10 in a similar league.

So is our general consensus in ppr something like

Dalvin > Mixon > Kamara > Barkley > Aaron Jones > Chubb = Fournette

Seems that's all in that range
I have mixon/kamara even, mayble kamara slightly ahead...i am not touching chubb this year
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08-21-2022 , 12:00 PM
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How close is Adams vs Diggs in PPR? That's tough to me.
I have diggs clearly ahead as i think Renfrow/Waller will still command their share of targets, and Carr is not quite rodgers
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