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01-02-2023 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
First round next year gonna have 5WR and one TE?

Along with Ekeler, CMC, Henry, Saquon, JT and some mix of Jacobs/Bijan?

That's 12-13

edit: hmm forgot Breece.
I’ll probably be out on Breece at ADP. Just not interested in using that draft capital for someone coming off of an ACL, even though he was a beast before the injury.

Javonte will be cheaper, but I’ll be off of him too. His knee injury was more severe.
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01-02-2023 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Early first? I doubt it. A lot of people will hold a grudge which will knock down his ADP. Plus, those elite receivers are becoming more valuable. And JT could still have a really bad QB situation.

I’ll estimate the top 12 by ADP will look something like.

JJ
CMC
Ekeler
Reek
Chase
Kupp (assuming Stafford is back)
Diggs
Kelce
Adams (depending on QB)
JT
Saquon (maybe higher depending on FA)
Henry

But I wouldn’t be surprised to see JT fall to early second in some leagues. Guys like AJB, CeeDee, Bijan, etc. are also going to be interesting.
I don't think it'll be possible to keep Ceedee out of the first next year. His target share is just too juicy.
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01-02-2023 , 10:05 PM
That’s fair. It’ll be interesting to see if they try to run it back with what they have or try to add someone else. But CeeDee has had a really good year.
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01-02-2023 , 10:05 PM
Btw since I was the People's Jones truther in dynasty, he's now more valuable than these guys (which isn't saying much, but is saying something)

Allen Robinson
Michael Thomas
Thielen
Renfrow
Claypool
Gallup

Not bad! If Watson gets his head out of his ass, I could see him being in that Mooney/Moore/Meyers tier (which would be about his ceiling). Not bad for an easy waiver grab.
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01-02-2023 , 10:57 PM
I would never take Tyreek ahead of Chase.

Even if you can give me a full season of Tua. But given Tua's concussion history, missed time seems like a given.
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01-02-2023 , 11:03 PM
Yeah, and those weren’t necessarily my rankings. I’m just estimating ADP.

But Reek is both the WR2 and is averaging more points per game than Chase this season. It’s reasonable to take him above Chase given the way McDaniels runs that offense.
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01-03-2023 , 09:27 AM
Ok - nobody wants to look like an insensitive A-Hole so I guess it can be me.

Now what? ESPN shows Buf@Cin as PPD and has updated my Championship Game win% to 100% but with a home page disclaimer saying the scoring period has been 'extended'. During Covid if the game wasn't made up in the same week you took a zero - but for obvious reasons they probably don't want to do that for the finals.

I am lucky as my main league is $75 among friends but I imagine there are several very high dollar leagues where people wont be happy if this gets arbitrarily decided - is everybody content to just wait and see how their platform handles the default scoring?
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01-03-2023 , 11:17 AM
Yeah, I’m not making any decisions or issuing any payouts until we have an official announcement from the NFL on whether the game is going to be played. The NFL will likely want it played. But I think the players have the power in this spot.

A couple of my leagues had matchups already be decided, but some are still up in the air. I’ve thought about a concept similar to using ICM chop where we either use total points scored or total projected points for matchups that were still live, and apply it to remaining payouts. But fantasy points aren’t exactly equivalent to the way poker chips work in a tournament.

It’s a tough spot.

But yeah, luckily all of my leagues are low dollar, so I’m sure everyone will be able to come to an agreement if the game ends up not being played.

The tough spots are companies running season long best ball tournaments. There was a lot of money on the line last night.
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01-03-2023 , 12:37 PM
Yeah I don’t think this game will be played and I don’t think it should be.

In terms of fantasy implications our league has suggested just having co-champions this year since Im down 18 (after Diggs pts) and with chase and Diggs vs nobody, so I was a favorite to win. Don’t really care about the money, but it’ll just be top 2 places split 50/50.

Probably the only fair decision outside of maybe playing next week out, but w sit outs it feels like it’d basically be luck of the draw in terms of who on your roster will play vs sit.
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01-03-2023 , 01:08 PM
Think the fairest (assuming the game isn't played) is to see if the teams involved will mutually come to an agreement in terms of prize money etc, would think that most will be able to get to something agreeable that doesn't involve the commissioner getting involved, if not then I think that you need to work out some sort of equivalent of an ICM chop based on what players in the game were projected and go from there. Don't think you can call it either way 100% if the matchup was still live. Of course if one player is behind and has no players left then there's no decision to make. I do not like any of the alternatives to force a result such as pushing to week 18, using (recent) weekly averages etc.

Where it might become a bit more sketchy is if there isn't money on the line but you need a result when it comes to draft picks/order in non-redraft, there I think you need to determine some sort of winner for at least the first round, and then alternate later round picks dependent on how likely the win was
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01-03-2023 , 03:14 PM
Buf/Cin will not be resumed this week if you were waiting for news on that front
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01-03-2023 , 03:28 PM
I’ve seen on both Twitter and Reddit that sites could possibly decide to use Bills Bengals scores in week 18 games count toward week 17 scores. Do people think that could be a fair resolution?
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01-03-2023 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
I’ve seen on both Twitter and Reddit that sites could possibly decide to use Bills Bengals scores in week 18 games count toward week 17 scores. Do people think that could be a fair resolution?
No - it was defined during Covid (at least on ESPN) if a game was delayed it had to be made up by Tuesday or the stats would not count for the current week. Not sure how this situation is that much different - seems like its just bad luck for some

No matter how this gets settled somebody is gonna be upset.

I am up by 27.5 with Mixon vs Singletary. I would be beyond pissed if the other owner even tried to make an argument to split since we 'cant be sure Singletary wouldn't have 180-3 and Mixon 24 yards and 2 fumbles'
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01-03-2023 , 04:06 PM
Yeah, I think each league is just going to have to make their own decisions and not rely on the platforms.

For instance, in the ship in one league one team is up 128 to 62 with Knox vs Mixon, Chase, and Bass. Is it possible the team losing comes back? I guess so, it’s fantasy. But it’s extremely unlikely, so I’ll probably just pay 1/2 based on that.

But the third place game is 139-138 right now with the winning team done and the losing team having Diggs. Using the COVID precedent that the game has now been cancelled for the week, does that mean the losing team is just stuck with Diggs’s 4.6 with 5:58 remaining in the first? Or do they deserve the win due to the very, very likely chance Diggs would get 1 more point? Or is it just a split?
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01-03-2023 , 04:41 PM
I'm commish in my league where I was down 0.7 with Higgins against his Chase before the final play after which I took the lead. He kinda wants this game to be played out or voided. **** situation all around.
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01-03-2023 , 04:59 PM
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I'm commish in my league where I was down 0.7 with Higgins against his Chase before the final play after which I took the lead. He kinda wants this game to be played out or voided. **** situation all around.
That sounds like the exact situation where splitting the pot evenly is most fair.
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01-03-2023 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
Need to dodge 55 from Burrow + Chase to lock up 3rd in the league I care most about. Sucks that my first 3 rounders (CMC, Kelce, AJB) avoided the injury bug but couldn’t put up A+ numbers in the semis.
Up 55 and villain asked me if I care for an 82-18 chop — his reasoning was Burrow & Chase put up 55+ in 2/11 games they played together (18%).

I think I’m giving up a few % points, but just happy to have it done.

ICM is the way to go, if you have league mates who are reasonable (such as the above example).

I’ll be curious to see how Yahoo Pro Leagues handle this — one thing I’m pretty sure of is that their decision will not make anyone happy.
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01-03-2023 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
Up 55 and villain asked me if I care for an 82-18 chop — his reasoning was Burrow & Chase put up 55+ in 2/11 games they played together (18%).

I think I’m giving up a few % points, but just happy to have it done.

ICM is the way to go, if you have league mates who are reasonable (such as the above example).

I’ll be curious to see how Yahoo Pro Leagues handle this — one thing I’m pretty sure of is that their decision will not make anyone happy.
Agree with all of the above - It's nice to see your villain came to you with some logic for his 82/18 split suggestion
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01-03-2023 , 05:47 PM
That seems quite fair. Especially since it's likely the Bengals would have been throwing until the end of the game in a back and forth contest.

Of the 3 leagues I commish, two have come to agreements. One I'm still working out.
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01-03-2023 , 05:48 PM
CBS Fantasy has a notice up saying if you had Bills/Bengals players in week 17, you get a zero for them. Players in lineups are now listed as "Bye" for the week.

Tough situation, dunno how they could have handled it (I doubt their software could even handle "use their week 18 scores"). Was probably going to lose but had some small chance, but can't really complain.
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01-03-2023 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by faker14
I'm commish in my league where I was down 0.7 with Higgins against his Chase before the final play after which I took the lead. He kinda wants this game to be played out or voided. **** situation all around.
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
That sounds like the exact situation where splitting the pot evenly is most fair.
Agree 50/50 and hopefully that maintains league harmony - asking for a void when its that close is bordering on angle-shooting
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01-03-2023 , 05:50 PM
I'm up 6 and done vs opponent who has josh allen and I'm the commish. It feels like I should concede even though I would never ask anyone else in the league if they were in my spot to do that.

Another league I'm commish in too I have gabe davis vs chase and he is ahead by 9 points in .5 PPR. It feels like I'm winning that matchup 5-10%.
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01-03-2023 , 05:55 PM
In one leauge I was playing my best friend. I had a 33 point lead and josh Allen vs chase and bills d. I think i was 96% to win and he basically said it’s over and is fine with 2nd place money.

In my other leauge it’s a lot more complicated. We do a 2 week final combining week 16 and 17 scores. All 4 teams were not only alive with players remaining but all 4 were projected to score between 180-183. Me and my co-commish are recommending to them to chop the remaining pot 25% each. The only way we would do something different is if all 4 agreed to it. The problem with potentially using scores in a later week if they make up this game, is there is a good chance, one or both teams are locked into a playoff spot and don’t play starters. So the idea of just playing it out could lead to someone getting screwed. So we are hoping they all just agree to the 4 way equity chop
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01-03-2023 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Punker
CBS Fantasy has a notice up saying if you had Bills/Bengals players in week 17, you get a zero for them. Players in lineups are now listed as "Bye" for the week.

Tough situation, dunno how they could have handled it (I doubt their software could even handle "use their week 18 scores"). Was probably going to lose but had some small chance, but can't really complain.
ha imagine you took the lead based on the first 10 mins of play and then got zeroed out. that seems extremely silly.

the only argument that makes sense for zeroing out the first 10 mins of points, is if they're going to credit bills/bengals players with their week 18 points. obviously sucks most for boyd owners if they do that.
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01-03-2023 , 05:57 PM
I'm not sure why people are in a hurry to make deals right now.

Is the idea to structure something you both agree to, before league/sites decide something which effectively screws one of you?
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