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08-23-2021 , 09:41 PM
YPLs are 0.5 PPR these days, right? You’ll be fine. I really like that team. CMC/Adams/DK/AJB is a great group of starters. Shenault/Fuller are great upside bench stashes...you are the WR store.

(Edit: missed it from your post - 0.5 PPR indeed. Nice job)
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08-23-2021 , 09:45 PM
Thanks everyone, seems like I was too worried about not having more certainty at RB2, but definitely feel better about my team now
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08-23-2021 , 11:00 PM
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Hope you guys got your Marquez callaway shares before they skyrocketed
But this is the year for trequan Smith bro
Has to be!
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08-24-2021 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmymcgill8
Just had my 1st draft... Botched RB2 in auction pretty badly imo, but think i did ok otherwise, thoughts?

$100 YPL 10tm .5 ppr, $200 Auction

QB Aaron Rodgers ($3)
RB CMC ($76)
RB Hines? ($1)
WR Adams ($49)
WR Metcalf ($33)
TE Fant ($2)
Flex AJ Brown ($28)
K Koo ($1)
DST Ravens ($1)
BN Fuller ($1)
BN Drake ($1)
BN Shenault ($1)
BN Pollard ($1)
BN Jam Williams ($1)
BN Mooney ($1)

Is my RB situation survivable w some waiver luck?
Seems fine to me, should have a huge edge on the field at WR, QB competent, TE meh, plenty of RB that have alright upside behind CMC. Can always spunk off all the FAAB at the first opportunity to plug the RB2 gap but I'd be happy rolling with what you've got
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08-24-2021 , 11:42 AM
wasn't sure where to ask this but this seems as good a place as any

is it generally allowed to swap picks you are going to use for keepers

say i need to give up a 7th rounder and have third pick that round, can i trade that with the guy with 10th pick in the 7th round and also swap 8th rounders with that guy and nothing else, effectively gaining a few spots in 8th round while giving up nothing
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08-24-2021 , 11:50 AM
Na, you've already made your 7th round pick at 7.03 by taking your player as a keeper. You don't have a 7th round pick to trade. The only way to trade that pick is to trade the player you kept with the pick or to not choose that player as a keeper.
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08-24-2021 , 11:54 AM
Ok guys, need some hardcore opinions on some players, I have no idea how to judge them. Gimme some info!


With espn ADP:

M. Sanders - 39, $24
JK Dobbins - 43, $24
Mostert - 98, $4

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08-24-2021 , 12:59 PM
Would rather have Dobbins than Sanders (lol ESPN drafters taking Sanders first when consensus is Dobbins maybe a round ahead), and if I'm taking a SF RB it's Sermon
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08-24-2021 , 02:22 PM
Likely RIP Etienne's season.
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08-24-2021 , 02:23 PM
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Would rather have Dobbins than Sanders (lol ESPN drafters taking Sanders first when consensus is Dobbins maybe a round ahead), and if I'm taking a SF RB it's Sermon
Yeah, I don't really want any of those guys in redraft, but if I had to choose I guess I'd go Dobbins.

I think Gainwell is going to have a pretty big role for the Eagles and is being underrated. I just don't think much of Sanders.
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08-24-2021 , 03:31 PM
I'll take Sanders if going a round later than Dobbins.
12 games played last year with 1,000 total yards. They're both in a timeshare but feel like Gus has a more solidified role in Baltimore than anyone in the Philly backfield, so maybe Sanders has a little more wiggle room for more touches.
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08-24-2021 , 03:45 PM
I think Dobbins is a reasonable and sneaky chance to be third round value but it will rely on Baltimore giving Lamar less option or running less designed runs. Lamar just doesn't check down to backs much.

I just hate being super tilted by seeing Lamar or Gus racking up TD's if I'm a Dobbins owner.

disclaimer: Ravens fan

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08-24-2021 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Yeah, I don't really want any of those guys in redraft, but if I had to choose I guess I'd go Dobbins.

I think Gainwell is going to have a pretty big role for the Eagles and is being underrated. I just don't think much of Sanders.
Gainwell will likely be used a decent amount as a pass catcher, but if anybody jumps Sanders in the depth chart it will be Scott. Gainwell doesn't have the build of an every down back.


The bull case on Dobbins is basically he will be a better version of 2019 Ingram with a somewhat increased receiving role. The concerns over Jackson filtering TDs fron RBs is being overstated. The Ravens score a lot of points and their RBs get a lot of TDs.
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08-24-2021 , 04:57 PM
Gainwell is 3 inches taller and 10 pounds lighter than Scott. I'm not saying Gainwell is just going to come in and play 75% of the snaps, but I wouldn't be surprised at all by the end of the year if he had the highest snap percentage of the 3 at 55-60% per game. Scott hasn't shown me anything so far in his career.

He's kind of forgotten since he sat out last year and went in the 4th round of the draft.

But in 2019 at Memphis, and I know it's Mem (the same Mem Gibson came from), but he averaged 16.5 carries, 104 yards rushing, 1 TD rushing, 3.6 receptions, 43.5 yards receiving, and .5 TD receiving. And that production was spread out pretty evenly over the season.

The NFL will beat him up more, but I still think he has the potential to do it. There have been guys 5' 9 and 195 pounds that have been able to produce on all 3 downs.
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08-24-2021 , 05:06 PM
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I think Dobbins is a reasonable and sneaky chance to be third round value but it will rely on Baltimore giving Lamar less option or running less designed runs. Lamar just doesn't check down to backs much.

I just hate being super tilted by seeing Lamar or Gus racking up TD's if I'm a Dobbins owner.

disclaimer: Ravens fan
Pretty much my thoughts other than him being sneaky in the third haha. I'm just fading altogether.

He's going to be very TD dependent. He had two games over 100 yards rushing last year. He didn't even average 2 targets/gm, and I don't see that really increasing much. He's going to get maximum 55-60% of the snaps each game.

Even over his 6 game stretch to end the season, he scored 98 points in PPR with 42 of those points coming from TDs.
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08-24-2021 , 06:37 PM
RBs I'm avoiding
Miles Sanders
Dobbins

RBs I'm seeking
J. Williams
Melvin Gordon
Philip Lindsay

Obviously those are some not great backs, but based on cost and workload I think they are a value. I'm sure I'll also be able to pick up someone like Cam Akers who is dropped mid season.
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08-24-2021 , 07:55 PM
I can see the argument for Lindsay, as it’s likely DJ, Ingram and Burkhead are all washed up. But that Hou team seems like it’s going to be a dumpster fire all season, so I’m probably just staying away from everyone except maybe Cooks. I have one share of Cooks in dynasty, so may just target other WRs around his ADP in redraft.
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08-24-2021 , 09:38 PM
I'm in on Sanders at cost, Eagles o-line should be waaaay better than it was last year, and Gainwell doesn't concern me much. Sanders would be value even if Gainwell takes some receiving work, and that work is not likely to be much anyway given the running qb aspect of their offense.

Agree with the hesitancy on Dobbins at cost though given GUS (who actually seems a bit undervalued to me atm).

Are we moving JRob ahead of these guys now? How high should he be?
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08-24-2021 , 09:41 PM
Man Tarheels really hates Sanders, lol.
Sanders is good. Last year he had like 3 of the 10 longest runs in the NFL. You've got to remember the dumpster fire he's been playing for. Not saying he's saquon or something but I highly doubt Gainwell gets anywhere close to 50% of the touches on merit alone.

I'm not taking Sanders at his ADP but there are a lot less talented backs in the league.

Going back to OP, I guess the answer is Raheem Mostert. Don't think the extra price for Dobbins or Sanders is going to bring the difference in points you'd want in return.
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08-24-2021 , 10:50 PM
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Going back to OP, I guess the answer is Raheem Mostert. Don't think the extra price for Dobbins or Sanders is going to bring the difference in points you'd want in return.
I was just asking about the 3 players individually, not vs. each other.


Still not really understanding how Mostert is so low though, I thought he was pretty good when on the field. I read more today, and it seems as though everyone has him in the same area, so I'd be happy taking him for value.

$4 in an auction looks really good.

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Are we moving JRob ahead of these guys now? How high should he be?

My initial thought is that he's now in the Carson-CEH area.
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08-24-2021 , 10:54 PM
Alright, maybe I’m being a little bit harsh on Sanders lol. There is just something about his game I don’t trust. Could be the dumpster fire he’s been apart of the last two years. I probably won’t have any shares, but we will see how things go.

As far as JRob, it’s tough not to move him into the backend of the top 15. I’d put him ahead of Dobbins, Sanders, Swift, and probably CEH in PPR. I had him outside of the top 25 before the Etienne injury. But now he’s going to get most of the receiving work out of the backfield. He was solid at receiving last year. Hyde will get some work, but JRob could push 70+% snaps. Should also bump Shenault too.
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08-24-2021 , 10:59 PM
Even Miles loves Kenny.

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08-24-2021 , 11:13 PM
Year 2 of league. 10 team. 0.5 PPR. Keep 2 at round.
I pick 10th.

Saquon at 1.10
Kelce at 3.10
JRobinson at 16.01

Who do I keep? Kelce is a keep I think. Can’t decide on other one though.
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08-24-2021 , 11:24 PM
Kelce and definitely JRob now that the Etienne injury has happened. 16th round is insane value for him. Saquon is worth about 1.10 right now. Kelce and JRob worth way more than 3.10 and 16.01.
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08-24-2021 , 11:32 PM
Yea don’t overthink it - the Etienne injury makes JRob an easy keep.

Saquon could very well have a redraft ADP of 1.02 next year (and thus be a good keeper in year 3 for you), but you’ll want to instead try to hope that whoever you draft in, say rounds 4-5 this year ends up as round 1-2 value next year (think next year’s Ridley/Metcalf/Diggs) and make that player a keeper.
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