Akers climbing.

Yeah, I'm a touch worried about my Hendo stock as a result of Akers not only being back incredibly quickly, but looking useful in the highlights I watched this morning. I guess the worst case is that I write off 2022 and he gets a better workload in 2023, unless any sort of Akers issue recurrence or a Michel injury happens?

I don't expect Michel to be back. He's played well enough to get some attention for other teams, and I doubt the Rams will want to pay the $3-$5 mil/yr Michel will want.

Hendo will likely be no more than a cuff to Akers with a split of something like 75/25 Akers/Hendo.

Yeah, it would be really surprising if they resigned Michel. Paying up for a 3rd RB seems bad and Rams already have a lot of big contracts and lack draft cap to fill spots cheaply. They will have more pressing needs to use that money on.

For some reason I thought Michel was signed through next season

Today I offered 1.11 and Gabe Davis to Allen owner for Etienne. He turned it down right before the game started.

A guy is looking to rebuild around the 23 draft. He just traded Barkley for a 23 1st of a likely non-playoff team today (plus two 2nds), but I have his 23 1st. So that’s good for me if he’s rebuilding, and he’ll also put a premium on getting his 1st back.

His players of value are Kupp and Deebo. What do you think about offering his 23 1st, my own 23 1st (which this year was 1.03, but I expect to make playoffs), Aiyuk, Claypool and Gabe Davis for Kupp and Deebo? It would be going against my rebuild, but I’ve got plenty of youth and am not patient.

My roster now:

QB: Lance, Fields/Dalton, Mac Jones, Mills, Minshew
RB: JaVonte, Singletary, Gainwell, Foreman, D'Ernest
WR: Chase, Waddle, Aiyuk, Mooney, Jeudy, Claypool, Toney, G. Davis, Campbell, Cephus, Smith-Marsette
TE: Muth, Irv Smith, Parham
Picks: 22 1.03, 1.06, 1.08, 1.11, 23 three 1sts

Guy with Murray, Kelce, Brady and AJones also just posted that he’s looking for 23 1sts.

If he is willing to do that you should definitely do it. None of the receivers you would be giving up are really guys that matter much and 2 1sts for Deebo and Kupp seems like a steal.

The only reason to be hesitant is that you are light at RB and 23 should be a strong RB class.

I wouldn’t target Brady or Jones, but if you can get Kelce and/or Murray at a reasonable cost, then pull the trigger.

I also agree with applesauce. I like getting Kupp and Debo for those assets in the deal posted above.

I made the offer for Kupp/Deebo. I could try Fields, Mooney, Muth and a projected late 23 1st for Murray and Kelce.

You could, but I’d say no.

Muth and the projected last 1st for Kelce is probably about right.

Mooney and Fields isn’t nearly enough for Kyler.

Offer for Kupp and Deebo was laughed off. Offer for Kyler and Kelce was countered with him adding in Lockett for Claypool and 1.11.

So he wants Fields, Mooney, Claypool, Muth, 1.11 and 23 1st of defending champion for Kyler, Kelce and Lockett.

I guess it depends on how you feel about the future of Fields. I’d take that though.

Kyler > Fields/1.11/23 1st.

Kelce/Lockett > Muth, Mooney and Claypool

But I’m also pretty down on Claypool and Fields.

I think Mooney is probably JAG. Not sure what will happen with Lockett, especially with Russ’s uncertainty, but Lockett has a pretty strong history of being a valuable asset.

Those firsts could be anything, but with one already set as late and the second being projected as late, you’ll likely not get anything close to Kyler’s level at those spots.

Plus, this is the type of win now trade you like to make haha. While also locking in Kyler’s future or having him as a top 5 asset to flip later.

Also, I believe I’m remembering correctly, but this is superflex right? All of my thoughts are based around that format.

It is SF and TE premium 1.5 PPR compared to 1 PPR for other positions. I tried to get a little more but he says that’s his best offer. He’s kind of hostile.

If I did the trade, it would make my team …
QB: Murray, Lance, Mac, Mills
RB: JaVonte, Singletary, Gainwell, Foreman, D’Ernest
WR: Chase, Waddle, Jeudy, Aiyuk, G Davis, Toney
TE: Kelce, Irv Smith, Parham
Picks: 1.03, 1.06, 1.08, my 23 1st and borderline team’s 23 1st

I’m torn as I’m unsure about Murray, and Fields could end up better. Then Kelce has a cliff coming up. But I’m pretty down on Claypool and they are late 1sts. Also, this commish runs a ton of leagues and has owners vote after the season if they plan to return. Six of 11 need to vote yes for the league to continue. This one got 10, but the league where I won the championship is currently 4-3. So it makes me more interested in focusing on the next couple years when Kelce should still be better than Muth.

Guess I’m just not sure that Murray is a sure thing anymore, or if he’s risky with potential to be great just like Fields.

It ultimately comes down to what you expect of Kyler moving forward compared to Fields. Fields is really tough to value right now, but I'm going to trust what I saw on the field compared to what I think he can be. Obviously, the Bears org is a pretty big mess, Nagy sucked, ARob was horrible, Mooney is JAG, Monty is decent but was also injured, the O line sucked, etc. Fields certainly wasn't set up for success.

But 2-8 in 10 games started, 12 games played, and a line of 1,870 passing 7 TDs, 10 Ints, 72 rushes for 420 yards and 2 TDs, and yeah, I'm just going to take Kyler. Ideally, Fields can only go up from here, but Kyler has 3 seasons of mostly strong production. Murray will still be a top 5 pick in superflex startups this year.

Giving up Muth for Kelce is certainly a win now play, and while Muth showed some potential last year, I don't expect much improvement from him this year unless Pitt can somehow land Russ or Rodgers. Although, even with those two, they've never been QBs to prop up TEs. They could also easily just end up in QB hell for the next 3-5 years.

I'm down on Claypool like you. And Mooney is whatever. He won't be more than a #2 for his career, imo.

And late 1sts have a ton of variance.

Murray also just has an old Hop, and we see what happens when he’s out. R Moore is probably less of a weapon than Mooney. The Cards have to face the Rams and Niners Ds twice each, and also the Bills, Pats, Titans and Colts in 2022. I do like to think he is highly talented No. 1 NFL pick who has been banged up and will be motivated to improve from this season, but I don’t know.

They’re fair concerns. I have him 4th in my SF rankings behind Mahomes, Josh and Herbert. Lamar 5th, Burrow 6th.

Justin is also only 1.5 years younger in an organization with less weapons, Justin has less draft capital (although the Bears did loltrade), and was also the 4th QB taken in his class.

I don’t blame you for going either way on the trade. Pros and cons to both sides.

I would put Burrow above both Lamar and Kyler, especially in a 6/pass TD league. He's got a scarily good pair of receivers for the foreseeable future

This is a 4 pt passing TD, 1 pt/25y league. That’s what made me look at building around two running QBs in Lance and Fields. Of course, Murray also can run. But I used to have Burrow and wish I kept him. Ironically, I’d be using the 23 1st I got in the Burrow/Fields swap plus paying the 1.11 to move to Murray if I did this deal.

In the league where I won the championship with Burrow and Chase, it looks like the league is going to fold. 4-4 vote to keep the league going, commish says need to get to 6 not including him. The second place team and another strong playoff team haven’t voted, but them taking this long isn’t encouraging.

Voting every year to keep or not keep a dynasty league going is a terrible rule.

Did you all collect a buy-in or two up front and if so is that evenly distributed to everyone? If you have to keep the vote every year to keep the league going I would say only those who voted to keep the league going should split up that money.

I run a dynasty-ish league and in the 1st year I collected 1 extra buy-in ($100) and now 3 guys (out of 12) want to have nobody pay a buyin in year 10 (5 yrs away) and then just hope that people stay after that. I suggested we continue always paying the same $100 buyin every year, but starting in year 10 through year 100 (or whenever the league folds) I would increase all payouts by 15% from $1,200 to $1,380 "because I invested our 12 buy-ins over the first 10 years of our league" and those 3 guys didn't understand or like the idea. We all agreed year 1 that if anyone decides to leave the league early they don't get their $100 back.

I only play 4/pass TD. I can see the argument for Burrow ahead of those two in 4/pass TD, but I just can't do it given Lamar's and Kyler's rushing upside. Burrow finished the season strong, and he averaged 20.2/game even scoring 38.1 and 34.84 in the last two games of the season, which were his two best games ever for fantasy.

He was behind Josh, Herbert, GOAT, Kyler, Pat, Hurts, Lamar, Rodgers and Dak in points/game. Obviously, Burrow, Chase and Higgins should all continue to improve together. Assuming Cincy figures out it's O line issues, he should also theoretically have a longer career than Kyler and Lamar, due to them rushing like they do. Burrow is also slightly older than both Lamar and Kyler.

But in a startup draft, I think I'm probably still taking Kyler and Lamar ahead of Burrow.

Yeah, voting to keep the league going seems like a weird rule.

I thought it was standard to collect buy ins for one year ahead, so if you have to replace, the person coming in essentially gets a free season. My dynasty leagues paid for 2022 before the 2021 season and will pay for 2023 before the rookie drafts of the 2022 season. We also collect buy ins if people want to trade picks of future years if that season hasn't been paid. A lot of 2023 has already been paid in some of my leagues and some guys have already paid as far as 2024.