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11-09-2021 , 07:24 PM
Of players left still alive (RIP Henry), Cordarrelle is the 6th overall in pts in PPR. 3 of the guys ahead of him are going to have byes and he could pass 1-2 of them.

Starting to see him ranked 20th or so in flex options. That's the most respect he's gotten yet.
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11-09-2021 , 08:06 PM
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Ivanka it is difficult to tell you the value of Cook or any other player in relation to draft picks without know your keeper rules. How many can you keep and how is it determined what round they can be kept?
We can keep them if their ADP was 6th round or later during that years draft.
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11-10-2021 , 01:53 AM
Sorry I forgot, 12 man league, .25ppr
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11-10-2021 , 08:40 AM
Traded Dalvin on his bye because I absolutely needed a win. Feels good!

Man he may really be done.
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11-10-2021 , 11:46 AM
Mattison should be owned everywhere since he has starter going forward equity, correct?

Before this I owned him in 4 or 6 leagues and now it is 6/6.

Last edited by bahbahmickey; 11-10-2021 at 12:05 PM.
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11-10-2021 , 11:51 AM
Oh yeah, he should be 100% owned except maybe in Guillotine with short benches.

I've even been holding him in my 8 man league with only 5 bench spots because the Dalvin injury equity is already high enough. Throw in this situation, if he's on your waiver, scoop him up immediately.
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11-10-2021 , 12:33 PM
Yeah I have him in both mine as well. Though this doesn't really sound that bad for dalvin.
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11-10-2021 , 12:41 PM
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Yeah I have him in both mine as well. Though this doesn't really sound that bad for dalvin.

uh, yeah it does. Have you seen that chat and picture? Looks real bad.
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11-10-2021 , 01:05 PM
yeah, mattison is possibly only behind pollard in terms of premium backup rb quality and should already be owned in anything but guillotine leagues
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11-10-2021 , 01:15 PM
Got Mattison on waivers in all leagues that he was available, even one where I had $0 FAAB left, so I guess people aren't that worried generally. Counting on the NFL caring enough to do anything here doesn't seem like a great bet, so they're prob right.
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11-10-2021 , 01:33 PM
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yeah, mattison is possibly only behind pollard in terms of premium backup rb quality and should already be owned in anything but guillotine leagues
I assume those were behind the James Conner and Javonte Williams/Melvin Gordon committees.
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11-10-2021 , 02:11 PM
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uh, yeah it does. Have you seen that chat and picture? Looks real bad.
No I just read he was held at gunpoint a couple hours then hit the person holding him hostage with a broom.

The texts do look bad but could be taken out of context. May have been multiple incidents can't quite tell.

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11-10-2021 , 03:11 PM
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I assume those were behind the James Conner and Javonte Williams/Melvin Gordon committees.
Yeah, I'm not counting where it's a committee situation and both have general flex value of their own accord, more where there's a fairly clear RB1 and the next man up would be in line to carry most of the load. You would expect Pollard and Mattison to have a huge chunk of the load if Zeke or Cook were to go down. In Zona I would expect Benjamin to be relevant and not expect Conner to start getting 25 carries a game. Similar arguments to the Jacobs/Drake situation post-Gruden, Chubb/Hunt etc
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11-10-2021 , 03:16 PM
Who is behind mattison in case we need to go that far.
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11-10-2021 , 03:17 PM
I can't remember almost any split situations where one guy went down and the other guy got all his volume. Got burned on it in dfs a "bunch".
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11-10-2021 , 04:23 PM
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I can't remember almost any split situations where one guy went down and the other guy got all his volume. Got burned on it in dfs a "bunch".
Hunt/Chubb?
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11-10-2021 , 04:30 PM
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Who is behind mattison in case we need to go that far.
4th round rookie Kene Nwangu, who has primarily played special teams so far. He's dynamic. He had a kickoff return TD last week. I'm guessing if something happens with Cook, they bring in a FA of sorts or grab another back off of another practice squad. But if Cook is suspended or banished and Mattison gets injured, I wouldn't want to start whoever they have back there.

They released Abdullah a few weeks ago once Nwangu came off of IR.
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11-10-2021 , 04:40 PM
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Hunt/Chubb?
I think that's a pipe dream at this point. I think the Browns intend to use multiple backs, regardless of who is out there. When both Chubb and Hunt missed, they still had 3 guys rotating through. Granted, D'Ernest got most of the touches and 69% of the snaps.

Hunt did get a snap share increase last year when Chubb was out, as he hit 70, 52, 89, and 85 in those 4 games. But his touches didn't really change much and he had two single digit fantasy scoring games.

I know he got injured against Ari, but he had 69% of the snaps with his touches remaining in line with the rest of the games before played with Chubb.

Chubb has only received 59% of the snap share the last two weeks without an increase in targets.

A lot of these backs in split committees have their roles, and the coaches don't seem to really want that to change, even when their top backfield mate gets injured or comes down with COVID. So the best handcuffs are actually the ones behind the backs getting 75%+ snaps consistently who can also fulfill that role.

I actually sort of worry about that with Pollard since he is in a committee with Zeke. But it's not as split as Hunt/Chubb or Javonte/Melvin. But I'd still happily play him if Zeke goes down.

Mattison is the only true handcuff at this point I believe in getting a workhorse workload if something happens to the guy ahead of him.

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11-10-2021 , 05:16 PM
I was able to add Mattison as a free agent and now own him in 6 of 9 teams. I went to the Cook owner and made some buy-low trade offers as well to acquire him, but also made a trade offer to give up Mattison to the Cook owner to upgrade TE trying to get Andrews for Schulz.

There is still alot of uncertainty with the Cook situation, but the Kareem Hunt situation from 2018 is still memorable.

Also, I added D'Ernest on waivers in almost all my teams. I am personally expecting a big game as he looked like a dynamic runner with the ball vs Denver. Browns are really run heavy so if Chubb sits, I'm expecting a big game out of him. Fantasy Pros has him rated #24 RB for the week, but I'm expecting a bit higher peformance; like top 15.
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11-11-2021 , 07:02 AM
In my rebuilding SF PPR dynasty, the top team in the league (8-1) offered me his 2022 1st and 2023 2nd for Aiyuk and Mooney. Obviously, I'm not going to do that. I'm not inclined to trade either player, as I also have their QBs in Lance and Fields. But, I am all about value in a rebuild. So I'm wondering if I can get some here to the point the deal makes sense for me.

I could counter that he give me his 2023 1st along with the 2022 1st, Jordan Love and Nico Collins. But I don't want to give up Aiyuk and Mooney unless he's really overpaying.

Even though he's 8-1 this year, he's actually kind of hurting at WR and very old. So he really needs this infusion of youth, and his pick could end up better in 2023. His team is based around Murray, Brady, AJones, JRob and Kelce. His WRs are really just Thielen, Lockett, Julio and AB.

My other WRs are Chase, Waddle, Jeudy, Claypool and Toney.
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11-11-2021 , 08:09 AM
that doesn't seem an unreasonable offer to me, and with your wr's as is, i don't see why you're making out it's not worth considering?
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11-11-2021 , 01:18 PM
As I said, I like the idea of seeing what happens with the Fields-Mooney, Lance-Aiyuk connections on my team. So I’m not inclined to trade them, but will if the value is undeniable. I also already have 3 1sts each for 2022 and 2023.
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11-11-2021 , 02:30 PM
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As I said, I like the idea of seeing what happens with the Fields-Mooney, Lance-Aiyuk connections on my team.
I mean that's fine in theory, but in reality you're basically doubling down on holding roster spots hoping that not only do Fields and Lance become fantasy relevant, but also that they elevate the level of play of the WR's to such an extent that you would bench one of the other five guys that you have already. I find it incredibly hard to imagine that would ever happen with Mooney, Aiyuk's less of a long shot given that I think he's the more talented WR, Lance probably a bit better than Fields and SF is less of a dumpster fire than Chicago, but still a long shot. You already have shares in Fields and Lance, great, why multiply the risk that they don't work out? There's no real fear of missing out, if they hit (unless it takes so long that they only become relevant on a second team), then you've got the value of the QB anyway.

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I also already have 3 1sts each for 2022 and 2023.
So you're not exactly short of draft capital.

Rather than holding on to Mooney and Aiyuk hoping they become a WR2 or better, why not ask the guy that holds, say, Justin Jefferson, what picks they would need in order to give him up? If it's, say, two firsts, you're in effect trading away Mooney, Aiyuk and a 2022 first for Jefferson and a 2023 second, and you'd still have five first rounders in the next two years. I'm a Jefferson owner and I'd be at least thinking at that point. You could probably chuck in Claypool if needed at that point if it's close. Get that done and you're starting Chase/Jefferson for the next however many years and whichever one of Toney, Waddle or Jeudy stops getting injured and crap QB play first
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11-11-2021 , 05:37 PM
OBJ pretty much crushing any hopes of Van Jefferson value. How much does he hurt Kupp & Woods?
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11-11-2021 , 06:23 PM
Not much imo
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