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08-04-2021 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
I’ll likely be RB heavy in redraft, but I’ve been QB/WR heavy in the first few rounds of my dynasty superflex startups.
That's like saying men normally like tits, but it's weird all they want is feet on the foot fetish sites.
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08-04-2021 , 03:35 PM
Lol. I should have elaborated. But my point is there is still RB value to be had in later rounds. Javonte, Sermon, Carter, Edmonds, Conner, etc. Some of those backs will be in low end RB1/high end RB2 territory by the end of the year due to injuries/performance.

Last edited by tarheels2222; 08-04-2021 at 03:43 PM.
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08-04-2021 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Kind of started trending that way before this year anyway. We went 0RB and now we're back to all RB.

The ADP's right now have 11 RB's in the first 14 picks. Says pretty much everything you need to know.
Depends where you are drafting. I’m 100% in big field best balls
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08-04-2021 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Lol. I should have elaborated. But my point is there is still RB value to be had in later rounds. Javonte, Sermon, Carter, Edmonds, Conner, etc. Some of those backs will be in low end RB1/high end RB2 territory by the end of the year due to injuries/performance.
I just think the WR/QB/TE available in those same rounds are more interesting to me than figuring out which of those guys becomes playable. But I don't disagree that someone in there is gonna work out.
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08-04-2021 , 11:07 PM
Guess I should get in this thread.
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08-04-2021 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Damn this may be the smallest do not draft list I've ever hard? Maybe 2 names in the first 6 rounds?

adp's this year mostly really fair
I was completely off of Akers at his early ADP, upset he got hurt as he seemed like a good fade.

Also avoiding Claypool. Don't know why people assume he has a cemented role when he didn't have one last year. Clearly 3rd on the team in snaps.

I also doubt Ill have any Dobbins. Especially since I dont have any non-PPR leagues.
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08-04-2021 , 11:50 PM
Strongly disagree that RBs are fairly valued in the first round.

After CMC and Cook, there are landmines galore. Kamara is priced as if Brees is still there, Saquon we don’t know how he’ll recover, Zeke is being priced as if he’ll produce like 2016 (he won’t). Henry I feel ok about.

I’ll hate it if I get the 1.03 in redraft because I’m probably taking Reek there.
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08-05-2021 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
Strongly disagree that RBs are fairly valued in the first round.

After CMC and Cook, there are landmines galore. Kamara is priced as if Brees is still there, Saquon we don’t know how he’ll recover, Zeke is being priced as if he’ll produce like 2016 (he won’t). Henry I feel ok about.

I’ll hate it if I get the 1.03 in redraft because I’m probably taking Reek there.
You should take Henry at 1.03 and not think twice, and I love Reek.

Mixon has top 5 potential. Ekeler is a beast. I really do like Zeke, but can understand the hesitation. Don’t want Kamara. I’m iffy on Barkley, and think it might take him a few weeks to find his bearings, but I think he has top 5 RB potential in the second half. I also love Jones.

Najee is a rookie but going to a great spot in Pitt. Don’t want Taylor, Gibson, Swift, or Dobbins.

CEH I’m 50/50 on. Really not sure how to feel.

But that covers my thoughts on the top 15 or so, might have missed one or two.

I’d certainly rather take some of the high floor/high ceiling receivers like Reek, Adams, Diggs, etc than those backs I don’t like.
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08-05-2021 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I just think the WR/QB/TE available in those same rounds are more interesting to me than figuring out which of those guys becomes playable. But I don't disagree that someone in there is gonna work out.
I agree on QB/TE (although I’m a sucker for set it and forget it TEs), not so much on receiver. I’d rather have some of the RB flyers and invest in definite number 1 receivers earlier on than take some of the second and third receivers on offenses in those rounds.
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08-05-2021 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
Strongly disagree that RBs are fairly valued in the first round.

After CMC and Cook, there are landmines galore. Kamara is priced as if Brees is still there
counterpoint is that thomas is missing a bunch of time and i have no clue other than trequan who else they have in the receiver room
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08-08-2021 , 09:34 AM
Hi guys, late arrival to the thread this year! Here's my attempt to try to get this thread heated up a bit. I am listing a group of players, please put the order you like for a ppr league (6pt td for qb). I am putting them in the order i currently like, would love to see if others are different

Group 1: RB Jones, Taylor, Ekeler, Barkley, Harris, Gibson

Group 2: WR Arob, Woods, Evans, Julio, Cooper, Kupp

Group 3: QB Dak, Wilson, Rodgers, Herbert

Group 4: RB Gaskin, Henderson,Sanders, Jacobs
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08-08-2021 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
Strongly disagree that RBs are fairly valued in the first round.

After CMC and Cook, there are landmines galore. Kamara is priced as if Brees is still there, Saquon we don’t know how he’ll recover, Zeke is being priced as if he’ll produce like 2016 (he won’t). Henry I feel ok about.

I’ll hate it if I get the 1.03 in redraft because I’m probably taking Reek there.
I agree plenty of first round landmines. That said, Kamara is not overpriced, he is priced where he should be because the risks with the guys behind him in the first round are even greater.
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08-08-2021 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar1
Hi guys, late arrival to the thread this year! Here's my attempt to try to get this thread heated up a bit. I am listing a group of players, please put the order you like for a ppr league (6pt td for qb). I am putting them in the order i currently like, would love to see if others are different



Group 1: RB Jones, Taylor, Ekeler, Barkley, Harris, Gibson



Group 2: WR Arob, Woods, Evans, Julio, Cooper, Kupp



Group 3: QB Dak, Wilson, Rodgers, Herbert



Group 4: RB Gaskin, Henderson,Sanders, Jacobs
1: Jones, Saquon, Taylor, Keeler, Harris, Ekeler, Gibson

2: Evans, ARob, Woods, Julio, Kupp, Cooper (last 4 are really close for me)

3: Dak, Rodgers, Wilson, Herbert (first 3 are close)

4: Sanders, Jacobs, Henderson, Gaskin
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08-08-2021 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar1
Hi guys, late arrival to the thread this year! Here's my attempt to try to get this thread heated up a bit. I am listing a group of players, please put the order you like for a ppr league (6pt td for qb). I am putting them in the order i currently like, would love to see if others are different

Group 1: RB Jones, Taylor, Ekeler, Barkley, Harris, Taylor, Gibson

Group 2: WR Arob, Woods, Evans, Julio, Cooper, Kupp

Group 3: QB Dak, Wilson, Rodgers, Herbert

Group 4: RB Gaskin, Henderson,Sanders, Jacobs
Group 1: Barkley (once he’s back to 100%), Jones, Ekeler, Harris, Taylor, Gibson. Sounds like Barkley will miss at least weeks 1 and 2, so I understand knocking him down for that. But he’s the most talented back with the best opportunity.

Group 2: ARob, Evans, Woods, Cooper, Kupp, Julio. But I’d probably be happy with any of the top 5 at ADP. Do not want Julio.

Group 3: Dak, Herbert, Wilson, Rodgers, but I think it’s close and all will be top 10. Although, Dak’s shoulder is a pretty big concern to me. But he’s got the highest ceiling. His box scores pre-injury last year were nuts.

Group 4: Gaskin, Henderson, Sanders, Jacobs. Gaskin probably the only one I might draft, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t have shares of any of them. I’ve drafted Gainwell in two dynasty leagues (one rookie draft and one startup draft) so far. I think he has a shot to be the lead back in Philly by the end of the season. I’ll probably snag him in a redraft or two, as well. Sanders sucks.

Last edited by tarheels2222; 08-08-2021 at 12:48 PM.
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08-08-2021 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar1
I agree plenty of first round landmines. That said, Kamara is not overpriced, he is priced where he should be because the risks with the guys behind him in the first round are even greater.
The RBs behind him have greater risk - yes indeed.

But Reek/Adams/Diggs/Kelce/Hopkins have the same upside but are less risky than Kamara. Hence Kamara (and plenty of other 1st round RBs) being mis-priced.

The RB position is mispriced.
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08-08-2021 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
The RBs behind him have greater risk - yes indeed.

But Reek/Adams/Diggs/Kelce/Hopkins have the same upside but are less risky than Kamara. Hence Kamara (and plenty of other 1st round RBs) being mis-priced.

The RB position is mispriced.
Curious what you think the first 12 picks in ppr should look like?
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08-08-2021 , 02:48 PM
You guys love you some receivers and your gonna go into like round 10 with 0 rbs begging for a guy who plays on 3rd to be your rb1 lol
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08-08-2021 , 03:43 PM
Lol. But yeah, it’s not about the top RBs relative to the top WRs. It’s the top RBs relative to the mid to low tiers vs the top WRs relative to the mid to low tiers.

With that said, I’m a sucker for stud top WR1s haha. RB has a **** ton of variance, but if you punt RB early, you’ll be hurting later. It’s a tough balance.

And I put a lot of stock into making sure my top 3 are all solid players I can trust, regardless of RB/WR or Kelce and MAYBE Waller/Kittle. Throw in Pitts for the YOLO variance.

Last edited by tarheels2222; 08-08-2021 at 04:00 PM.
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08-08-2021 , 04:05 PM
Man I need to do a master class in drafting
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08-08-2021 , 04:15 PM
What’s your strategy for the first 3? RB/RB/RB? I did a lot of that last season and it worked out well, but probably going to be aiming for a 2 and 1 with RB/WR. Some spots I’ll have RB/Kelce/WR. One of my redrafts is 8 man, so that changes things a bit too.
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08-08-2021 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar1
Curious what you think the first 12 picks in ppr should look like?
Left column is what FantasyPros have as their top 12 for PPR (I didn’t filter for particular experts); next to that is what I think it should be instead.

CMC - CMC
Cook - Cook/Hill
Kamara - Cook/Hill
Zeke - Adams/Diggs
Henry - Adams/Diggs
Adams - Hopkins
Barkley - Ridley
Hill - Kelce
Jones - Henry
Diggs - Kamara
Ekeler - Barkley
Hopkins - lol not Zeke
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08-08-2021 , 05:29 PM
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You guys love you some receivers and your gonna go into like round 10 with 0 rbs begging for a guy who plays on 3rd to be your rb1 lol
Feels like this conversation happens almost every year; one group thinks “WR is deeper than RB this year” and the other group thinks that’s the wrong definition of deep.
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08-08-2021 , 06:28 PM
I’m still doing research, but if I’m drafting WR-heavy in rounds 1-2, here are some starting RBs I don’t mind taking (so far) - these guys are fairly valued (IMO), unlike plenty of round 1 RBs

ADP from FF calculator (PPR)

2.08 Mixon
3.06 Swift
5.04 Etienne
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08-08-2021 , 06:44 PM
Guys like Henry, Zeke, Kamara, Barkley, and a few others at the top are ranked where they’re ranked because they’re guaranteed 20+ touches a game. That list of backs dwindles quickly. I don’t think guys like Swift and Etienne fit on the list, nor do I like either this season, but at those ADPs they’re fairly rated.

Mixon has a chance to be a 3 down back with Gio gone. I do like him. Hopefully he falls to you, but he may not.

People are excited about Jones because Williams is gone, and while AJ Dillon will take some carries, I am expecting Aaron’s snap percentage to rise this year.

People are excited about Ekeler because Joe Lombardi has come to town and has worked with PPR producers like Kamara, Sproles and Bush.

You are also assuming your league won’t reach for RBs and you’ll be able to get the guys you want at ADP, which generally doesn’t work out that way.

You need a solid mix of both, but easier to find solid receivers later in the draft than solid RBs. But to each their own. This is what makes fantasy fun!
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08-08-2021 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
What’s your strategy for the first 3? RB/RB/RB? I did a lot of that last season and it worked out well, but probably going to be aiming for a 2 and 1 with RB/WR. Some spots I’ll have RB/Kelce/WR. One of my redrafts is 8 man, so that changes things a bit too.
Again only doing best ball so rankings a bit different but it depends where I pick .

Started 4 rbs in a bunch cause I was starting like
Saquon
Jonathan Taylor
Dobbins
Carson
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