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12-29-2020 , 11:47 PM
I think this is finally the year that I realized you can’t win without an elite QB. Streaming this year was a disaster.
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12-30-2020 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
I think this is finally the year that I realized you can’t win without an elite QB. Streaming this year was a disaster.
This year was an anomaly at QB. But I think it won’t be an anomaly going forward. This elite tier of QBs will continue to be draft-worthy vs previous years when streaming was a much better strategy.
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12-30-2020 , 12:37 AM
Streaming QB was unusually difficult this year.
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12-30-2020 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Who are we picking up off waivers that wasn't drafted and not likely to be a roster right now that would have some value as your last pick in the draft? Any names come to mind?
Darrynton Evans (Derrick Henry handcuff) - should be the #2 RB behind DH on depth chart, had a TD last week, rookie drafted in 3rd round.

Recently came off IR so unlikely to be rostered unless he was picked up off waivers week ~14.
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12-30-2020 , 12:34 PM
The prevalence of rushing QBs and the number of elite QBs being exactly in the 8-10 kinda range depending on how you view it made streaming pretty hard. Plus the preseason ranks and end of season ranks were pretty accurate. Only one that came from nowhere was Herbert and none of the early QBs failed except Dak for injury and maybe Ryan/Brees if you viewed them as top 10 (I didn't)
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12-30-2020 , 01:47 PM
Rodgers, Herbert, Tannehill were the early season hits.
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12-30-2020 , 02:23 PM
I managed to ride Fitz for a while, but end-of-season my streaming choices were basically the Goff/Carr/Kirk tier. Even with my Fitz weeks, I only managed 17.2 points per game (4pt TDs)
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12-30-2020 , 03:43 PM
I drafted Rodgers in the league I shipped and played some combo of Tanehill + streamers in the league I missed the playoffs
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12-30-2020 , 05:48 PM
I don't know, streaming a Quarterback might have been tougher this year but I know I missed Herbert when you guys were pumping him. I wound up with Tannehill and Ryan (drafted) that wasn't so bad. But what about the alternative? The guy I played in the final got lucky and drafted Allen 5 spots before I was going to take him. But his problem was streaming his RB2. He wound up getting Drake after I dumped him and Bell and getting lucky with Wilson Jr. Your compensation for streaming QB is having RB and to a lesser extent WR locked in.
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12-30-2020 , 09:48 PM
I just think the running QB is here to stay and is so ridiculously valuable in 4 pt passing TD leagues that it’s worth taking them early. I mean look at Kyler last week - absolute garbage of a game by any standard. No TDs, 1 int, lost the game to an abysmal opponent - but he still scores 17 points (which is below average but not bad by any stretch) because he has a ton of rushing yards
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12-31-2020 , 02:28 AM
Above posts since mine, I all agree with.

QB was really weird this year. It's a changing of the guard, the Ryan-Stafford-Rivers-Ben crew of the last 10 years really were brutal to stream this year. Outside of the top 7 QBs, the rest of the pack were frequently putting up sub-15 point weeks. Then throw in a bunch of injuries or timeshares that made a lot of starters unreliable (NO, CHI, PHI, CIN, MIA, DAL) and there wasn't much to go around. If you were a Dak owner you probably felt pretty gutted.

Herbert was the only real gold mine from waivers or late in the draft, I was lucky to be on him in all leagues and it definitely carried me since I did not draft QB early in any league.

Problem is Herbert is going to get drafted in the QB8-10 range. Even someone like Hurts is probably going to be a top 12 ranked QB because of the rushing value. Gonna be hard to find value again next year, I'd probably say Lamar, Burrow, maybe Dak if he's ranked down at 7th or 8th.
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12-31-2020 , 09:27 AM
I'm struggling to marry up QB's being "hard to stream" with the zero offers I had for Rodgers when I also had Lamar, given I would have taken pretty much any RB with two functioning knees in return
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12-31-2020 , 11:49 AM
I've looked at a few 2021 rankings like the one below and quite a few of them have Godgers ranked outside of the top 5 of QBs (the one below has him at #9 QB. GB is around 90% to draft a WR in the top 2 rounds or get a legit WR in free agency. If either of those takes place I don't think there is any player in the NFL that is a bigger lock to be top 3 at his position than Godgers.

https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-foo...tball-rankings
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12-31-2020 , 12:08 PM
Or the Packers might draft another QB and RB with their first two picks.
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12-31-2020 , 12:32 PM
Even if they go 3rd string QB, 3rd string RB and 3 rd string TE in the first 3 rounds in back to back drafts Godgers is still a lock to return QB#9 numbers. There is just no way he underperforms his draft equity at Qb#9 barring a major injury to himself or the one NFL caliber WR GB has.
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12-31-2020 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
I'm struggling to marry up QB's being "hard to stream" with the zero offers I had for Rodgers when I also had Lamar, given I would have taken pretty much any RB with two functioning knees in return
QB also incredibly hard to trade while at the same time replacement level felt like it was an all time low this year. It's weird, TE is also tough to trade.

I doubt you would have traded Rodgers for say a David Montgomery early-mid season. And I doubt an early season James Robinson owner would have traded him for Rodgers either. QB value seems to rise and fall so quick. I was lucky to flip Herbert (and Aaron Jones) for Henry mid year, right when Herbert and AJ were peak value and then subsequently fell off.
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12-31-2020 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I've looked at a few 2021 rankings like the one below and quite a few of them have Godgers ranked outside of the top 5 of QBs (the one below has him at #9 QB. GB is around 90% to draft a WR in the top 2 rounds or get a legit WR in free agency. If either of those takes place I don't think there is any player in the NFL that is a bigger lock to be top 3 at his position than Godgers.

https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-foo...tball-rankings
Feels like he underrated QBs. I doubt Mahomes lasts past the third round of any draft next year, and Kyler will go soon after him, not in the fifth or sixth round. Not saying I'd take them there but I'd bet their ADPs are higher than his.

Ekeler at 4 is pretty outrageous I think. I love Ekeler and think he is the tits with Herbert, and a full season of work he'd be a lock top 10 pick but I wouldn't take him over Henry or Kamara (Taysom Hill status notwithstanding).

Otherwise his list is pretty reasonable I'd say.
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12-31-2020 , 02:30 PM
It is possible Ekeler really hurts Herbert's value. Stats from this season seem to point that way, but it is obv small sample.
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12-31-2020 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Who are we picking up off waivers that wasn't drafted and not likely to be a roster right now that would have some value as your last pick in the draft? Any names come to mind?
Rashaad Penny has a outside shot at being the top back in Seattle. Both Carson and Hyde are UFA's.

Ke'Shawn Vaughn in Tampa is another decent speculative add.
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01-02-2021 , 11:43 AM
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Or the Packers might draft another QB and RB with their first two picks.
lol this, if the Packers were going to take a WR in the draft early it would have been this year, but any time you can pass on someone like (pick your second round WR of choice) for Love you've got to do it
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01-04-2021 , 06:03 PM
Any thoughts on my dynasty squad and my general strategy heading into next season? It's a 12-team half-PPR league. 4 pts per passing TD, 1 pt ever 25 passing yards. Start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 2 flex. I have only my 4th round rookie pick. Came in 4th in 2020, won it all in 2019, 4th 2018, won it all 2017.

QB: LJax, Cousins
RB: Kamara, Henry, JRob, Moss, Pollard, Mike Davis, Darrynton Evans, Eno Benjamin, Trayveon Williams, Guice
WR: Tyreek, MT, Godwin, DJM, AB, Gallup, Hamler, Duvernay, Gandy-Golden, Tre'Quan, Isabella
TE: Andrews, Henry, Trautman, Parham
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01-04-2021 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaddy
Any thoughts on my dynasty squad and my general strategy heading into next season? It's a 12-team half-PPR league. 4 pts per passing TD, 1 pt ever 25 passing yards. Start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 2 flex. I have only my 4th round rookie pick. Came in 4th in 2020, won it all in 2019, 4th 2018, won it all 2017.

QB: LJax, Cousins
RB: Kamara, Henry, JRob, Moss, Pollard, Mike Davis, Darrynton Evans, Eno Benjamin, Trayveon Williams, Guice
WR: Tyreek, MT, Godwin, DJM, AB, Gallup, Hamler, Duvernay, Gandy-Golden, Tre'Quan, Isabella
TE: Andrews, Henry, Trautman, Parham
Seems pretty straight forward, you gotta turn some of your depth into an upgrade at QB if Lamar stays like 2020 Lamar, and you can say the same about TE in theory. You obviously have the ammo.
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01-04-2021 , 06:41 PM
2020 Lamar was still a top 10 fantasy QB.
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01-04-2021 , 07:34 PM
History dictates you will win next year.

I would not tweak that roster much.
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01-04-2021 , 07:38 PM
Yeah. Going to have to give up too much to get the upgrades at QB (Lamar still had top 5 potential) or TE (Andrews and Henry both have top 5 potential).

Plus, Cousins has some sneaky value since his defense sucks so hard.
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