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08-15-2019 , 09:50 AM
I love Chubb but you don't sign a Kareem Hunt with all his baggage to not them utilize him in a platoon. Likewise, Hunt doesn't sign with any team that says he's only going to get touches if the starter gets hurt
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08-15-2019 , 10:16 AM
Hunt is definitely a concern, but you'll have all of Chubb for the first 8 weeks at 85%+ of the snaps. Especially with Duke Johnson being traded. The offense is really solid, and the defense is underrated. I think the Browns will be either leading or in a lot of close games. I doubt there will be many, if any, blowouts, so the game script should definitely be Chubb favorable.

And then when Hunt comes back, I'd say Hunt gets 20-25% of the snaps. So he may cut into it a bit, vulture a TD here or there, but I think Chubb is the guy. The Hunt contract is incredibly Browns friendly. Financially, it was a low risk, high reward insurance move.

So I do believe they will use him when he returns, but it's not like they gave him a huge contract to come in and dominate as the feature back. And to be fair, I don't think Hunt had much leverage in his contract negotiations, especially given the contract he signed. He was not in a position to demand a role with guaranteed touches. If there was a better deal out there, he would have taken it. The fact of the matter is that the majority of the teams didn't even consider signing him.
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08-15-2019 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
I love Chubb but you don't sign a Kareem Hunt with all his baggage to not them utilize him in a platoon. Likewise, Hunt doesn't sign with any team that says he's only going to get touches if the starter gets hurt
I don't understand the concern for Hunt. There isn't much that suggests he's good at football. The KC RB position will put up numbers no matter who is running the ball.

Also, I dont think Hunt was in a position to pick and choose where to go, he had to take what he could get. Guaranteed a huge workload for 8 weeks with Chubb

Chubb is not being drafted high enough
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08-15-2019 , 07:07 PM
08-15-2019 , 07:39 PM
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I don't really think it's a question of looking DJ. It's that Conners may not have the tremendous volume again. Mixon could be facing plenty of stacked boxes and game scripts that favor gio. Bell... was signed by a GM who was fired by a coach who's said he didn't want him and missed a year, will have a much worse o line, won't get PIT type volume and is getting near the age when RBs hit a cliff.

DJ has warts for sure and could easily end up disappointing, but for me it comes down to nuk/Adams/Julio/obj/Thomas are all basically interchangeable whereas DJ is a clear cut above any other RBs left at that point.

There's nothing wrong with taking a WR there, but I'd personally lock up RB or reach on Kelce instead given you can likely get one of those guys at R2 anyway.
DJ is 2 months older than Bell fwiw
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08-15-2019 , 08:36 PM
I suspect # of rushing attempts matters more than age (regarding being predictive of when RBs hit their peak). DJ has 687, Bell has 1229.
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08-15-2019 , 09:58 PM
No rate my team thread?

10 team, .5 PPR, start 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex, 1 TE

godgers
DJ, freeman, aaron jones, latavius
keenan, thielen, diggs, alshon, geronimo, DJAX, golden tate, deebo samuel, marquise brown
ebron

this is a keeper league where i kept jones, thielen & diggs, but you can ignore the keeper part as I'd love to hear more about how my team is for a 10 teamer.
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08-15-2019 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
No rate my team thread?

10 team, .5 PPR, start 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex, 2 TE

godgers
DJ, freeman, aaron jones, latavius
keenan, thielen, diggs, alshon, geronimo, DJAX, golden tate, deebo samuel, marquise brown
ebron

this is a keeper league where i kept jones, thielen & diggs, but you can ignore the keeper part as I'd love to hear more about how my team is for a 10 teamer.
Seems solid assuming that is 1 TE instead of 2

Likely hate the ARod, Ebron, and Golden Tate picks, and not a big fan of having both Thielen and Diggs on the same team, though that shouldn't be too big of a problem if you are a competent trader. Rest looks likely good, though I imagine in a keeper league there will be a powerhouse team or two that will be way better than yours.
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08-15-2019 , 10:47 PM
We do start 1 TE - I ninja edited that on you. 30 players kept in the round before they were drafted in the previous year. 6 pt pass TDs and -2 INT makes Rodgers better in my mind especially being a GB fan.

Arod was 42nd overall
Ebron was 122
Tate was 119

I didn’t have much choice in keepers. Diggs in 6th, thielen in 9th and jones in 10th. Nobody else from my team was keepable at their prices so no getting away from thielen and diggs.
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08-15-2019 , 11:48 PM
Nothing wrong with having both thielen and diggs on your team imo. Team looks solid overall. I’m meh on Ebron but maybe he’ll run like god again this season
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08-16-2019 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
I suspect # of rushing attempts matters more than age (regarding being predictive of when RBs hit their peak). DJ has 687, Bell has 1229.
Sure, but I think the point is more accurate for someone with a little more mileage on them. Bell is 27 and just avoided a full year of wear and tear on his body. If anything I'd be optimistic about him for this year if he stays healthy.

A few good examples:

Tomlinson- 1,702 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 1,815 yards in his age 27 season
Peterson- 1,406 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 2,097 yards in his age 27 season
Lynch- 1,137 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 1,590 yards in his age 26 season
Forte- 1,262 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 1,339 yards in his age 28 season

*I also think it helps that Bell is used more as a receiver than a lot of RBs, which would make me feel more confident about his ability to produce at a high level for a little longer.
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08-16-2019 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm
DJ is 2 months older than Bell fwiw
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
I suspect # of rushing attempts matters more than age (regarding being predictive of when RBs hit their peak). DJ has 687, Bell has 1229.
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Sure, but I think the point is more accurate for someone with a little more mileage on them. Bell is 27 and just avoided a full year of wear and tear on his body. If anything I'd be optimistic about him for this year if he stays healthy.

A few good examples:

Tomlinson- 1,702 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 1,815 yards in his age 27 season
Peterson- 1,406 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 2,097 yards in his age 27 season
Lynch- 1,137 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 1,590 yards in his age 26 season
Forte- 1,262 carries in his first 5 years, rushes for career-high 1,339 yards in his age 28 season

*I also think it helps that Bell is used more as a receiver than a lot of RBs, which would make me feel more confident about his ability to produce at a high level for a little longer.
you guys make some very solid points and when i saw DJ's age a few hours after making that post I immediately felt pretty dumb for not being aware of that

for me though, the big thing is I strongly believe that while leveon is a unique talent, anyone would succeed behind that line as conners and samuels and anyone else who got the starts (was it mcfadden who had some great games when bell was sidelined?)

going to NYJ, he's going to have a very difficult time compared to PIT and the he could end up not even getting 2/3 as much volume as we're accustomed to him getting. I like Bell a lot, he's my next highest RB after DJ but I think DJ is in a better spot to succeed and for me, that's really 99% of my RB rankings
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08-16-2019 , 05:21 AM
If bell stays healthy I don't think 300+ touches is too much of a stretch. Darnold could be improved and defences may need to respect the pass more than we assume.
I'm semi fading both of them but would prefer bell in the late 2nd compared to DJ in the mid 1st.
Can't chalk up all of Bell's success to a system, he is an elite runner who can set up blocks. Still has a pretty high ceiling even on the Jets if the stars align.
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08-16-2019 , 06:37 AM
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would prefer bell in the late 2nd compared to DJ in the mid 1st.
at least for best ball on Yahoo, Bell goes anywhere from #4 to as late as #12, you'll never get him late in the 2nd. He's usually gone around pick 7 or 8.
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08-16-2019 , 07:02 AM
Hey guys, what would be your lean in Standard between:
Julio or OBJ (lean OBJ)
JuJu, Tyreek or Michael Thomas (lean JuJu)
Amare, T.Y. or Keenan Allen (lean Allen), Thanks.
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08-16-2019 , 07:03 AM
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at least for best ball on Yahoo, Bell goes anywhere from #4 to as late as #12, you'll never get him late in the 2nd. He's usually gone around pick 7 or 8.
Ah, I'm mocking on fantasy football calculator. I'll have to check but I think he's falling to almost the mid 2nd there.
Ya, I'm taking an elite WR over both those guys at that ADP.
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08-16-2019 , 09:33 AM
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Hey guys, what would be your lean in Standard between:
Julio or OBJ (lean OBJ)
JuJu, Tyreek or Michael Thomas (lean JuJu)
Amare, T.Y. or Keenan Allen (lean Allen), Thanks.
OBJ - More TDs, less yards, so it's probably a toss up.
Reek - The boom is just too good to ignore, especially in standard. Also, I'm lower than most on JuJu and MT, and probably higher than most on Reek.
Allen - No thanks on Amare. The Luck injury is concerning me a lot with T.Y.
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08-16-2019 , 10:33 AM
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Ah, I'm mocking on fantasy football calculator. I'll have to check but I think he's falling to almost the mid 2nd there.
Ya, I'm taking an elite WR over both those guys at that ADP.
I wouldn't waste time on a mock draft if the mock isn't hosted by the site where you'll be putting the real draft in

all the major discreprancies are based on site rankings, whether a lot of those guys are taken in the 10 round vs undrafted is mostly to do with how the site ranks them

notable examples are Giovanni Bernard and Albert Wilson, two guys who go in the low teens elsewhere but usually undrafted in Yahoo - I tend to agree with Yahoo on that one
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08-16-2019 , 10:49 AM
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Hey guys, what would be your lean in Standard between:
Julio or OBJ (lean OBJ)
JuJu, Tyreek or Michael Thomas (lean JuJu)
Amare, T.Y. or Keenan Allen (lean Allen), Thanks.
I'm of the school of thought that these are not the picks to agonize over. There's enough variance to make any decision, no matter how informed, kind of a coin flip anyway. I just focus on who to fade at this point in the draft rather than really caring about slight preferences.

I think all these are fine except for Amare, he has gotten half his fantasy points the last two seasons in just 3 games both times - without those 3 huge games each year, he's not even to top 25 or even top 50 WR

I have him as my WR15 between Cooks and Woods for best ball. If we're talking regular fantasy football, he drops a few more slots to probably around WR20ish but haven't formally done those rankings yet.


remember these are for best ball, haven't run my model yet to do regular season rankings but differences will be slight, basically drop Mike Evans a bit and otherwise we're basically fine
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08-16-2019 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HurricaneNick
Hey guys, what would be your lean in Standard between:
Julio or OBJ (lean OBJ)
JuJu, Tyreek or Michael Thomas (lean JuJu)
Amare, T.Y. or Keenan Allen (lean Allen), Thanks.
Julio but it's close
MT > JuJu >>> Tyreek
Allen >> TY >>> Amari

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I'm of the school of thought that these are not the picks to agonize over. There's enough variance to make any decision, no matter how informed, kind of a coin flip anyway. I just focus on who to fade at this point in the draft rather than really caring about slight preferences.
strongly agree with this
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08-16-2019 , 03:05 PM
UHG! Fantasy Football time. I have a love/hate relationship with fantasy football. I have lots of study to do. It always sneaks up on me. But it is so damn random and luck based not sure why I even bother when clueless auto drafting often works just fine But have been reading and listening to podcasts all week long to try and get up to speed. By the time I start drafting I will be an expert! Fantasy baseball is way better because it actually takes skill and the draft happens during a lull in the sports world and can be fully focused on.

But I digress. Just caught up on this thread and starting to form some ideas, thoughts and strategies. Am looking forward to another successful (I hope!) football season. Good luck to all of us!
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08-16-2019 , 04:48 PM
it was DeAngelo Williams that tore it up in Bell's absence for several starts

I think that may be who you were thinking of
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08-16-2019 , 06:31 PM
Don't think, go add Josh Gordon now.
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08-16-2019 , 06:52 PM
wish I drafted more season long leagues before today - he's been a must own late round target for me. own him in 1/1 and he is my #5 exposed WR in 10 man best ball, #3 in 12 mans
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08-16-2019 , 07:56 PM
I finally caved and checked out Yahoo's best ball offerings. I love that their autodraft rankings are lol, but man I hate the prizepool structure. Do all leagues allocate ~30% of the prizepool to a weekly best score? And only 30% to the overall league winner?

I'm sticking with DRAFT (formerly MFL10s) for 2019.
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