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08-10-2019 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cwicemvp12
Didn't get this guy to bite, unfortunately he valued his players correctly. Have an interesting proposition rearing its head.

League is a 12-team keeper, every team keeps between 0-4 players and loses between 0-4 1st-4th round picks for each player that they keep. It's a straight draft and I have the 4th pick.

Right now I'm keeping M. Thomas, Kelce, and Fournette. Guy has a team with D. Adams, A. Kamara, K. Allen, J. Mixon, and Damien Williams. He's going to lose one of these guys for nothing unless we pull off a 2-for-1 or I send him a draft pick.

Looks to me like Williams is his odd man out since he's offered me two lol trades:

Allen/Williams for Thomas/6th
Mixon/Williams for Thomas/5th

If I counter with Adams/Williams for Thomas/5th, is this good value for me? Essentially giving up my 4th and 5th for Williams, who is late 2nd/early 3rd value at the moment.

How worried are we that Williams is going to split time? Do I make this trade and snap up Hyde at the first chance I get? Otherwise I may play hardball and try to get Williams with the lowest pick possible since he's going to drop him anyway. People are also bad drafters in this league - should I stand pat with the good draft position given Williams' stock is falling? Any thoughts appreciated!
Loling at his offers while trying to get OBJ/DJ for Thomas/Fournette makes me think you are unlikely to get many trades done. That being said, given that he seems to have little motivation to give up Adams or Kamara, I'd be going after Mixon here if possible. I was pretty high on Williams, but things have been trending down lately. Hamstring injuries are notoriously sticky, and the coach speak has been largely discouraging. His ceiling if everything breaks right for him is still sky-high, but he seems much less likely to approach that ceiling than he did a few weeks ago. Plus he's 4 years older than Mixon, with much less of a pedigree which gives him less margin for error.

I'd be looking at something like Mixon/Allen for Thomas/pick, Mixon/Williams for Thomas straight up, or if you wanna go all out, then perhaps something like Adams/Mixon/Williams for Thomas/Kelce/pick maybe?

Also whether this is standard or PPR makes a difference prob since that changes Thomas' value quite a bit.
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08-11-2019 , 12:53 AM
lol @ my league.

PPR league with 1 RB/WR/TE and 3 flex of those along with 3 IDP. Some 300 and 400 yard bonuses for QB along with 100 yard bonuses for other yards.

Players are all in AZ and a lot of ties to Wisconsin/Packers

3 team keeper so the 4th round is the first actually drafted. Here are some highlights
-Someone kept Drew Brees
-Kyler Murray and Tom Brady went back to back 2nd and 3rd pick of round 6 (62/63)
-First defensive player taken with 6th pick of round 7
-First kicker taken in 10th round (17 round draft)
-I took my QB after all 11 of them had their first as first pick of round 11 (121) as Jared Goff. I could have probably waited until next pick as 50% of the picks were now defensive, but was scared a run of 2nd QBs would happen and I wouldn't get Winston or Goff.
-Sleepers Mike Davis and Alfred Morris still on board and I will be dropping 2 of my defensive players to have them on my roster since this draft happened after week 1 of the preseason. Can't add until Monday and I am #1 waiver since I had the 12th pick so I don't want to waiver them.
-One guy had a fantasy pros subscription and had my team as bottom 3, probably because I had Eckler in a starting spot and they are assuming Gordon will be a go.

My Team (K) = keeper:
Goff
Conner (K), Eckler, L. Murray, D. Henderson, Singletary
Diggs(K), Antonio Brown(K), Golladay, Westbrook, Curtis Samuel, Tyrell Williams (A-Brown handcuff?)
Engram

Who cares about K and IDP but I did draft Butker as second K off board because I had already drafted all my non IDP/K and everyone had almost filled out their IDP.

Last edited by that_pope; 08-11-2019 at 12:59 AM.
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08-11-2019 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Precept24
Not sure where I posted it, but it's relevant now.

https://m.soundcloud.com/lateroundpo...green-episodes

What are your thoughts on the conversation between JJ Zachariason and Mike Beers?

I try to employ the hyper-fragile draft concept, and it's been really successful for me.
gave it a listen, i think what he did is pretty standard to be honest

on yahoo, you can compare ADPs of players and you'll see that RBs get taken way earlier on average in best ball

you also got to consider this podcast is from the year of peak zero RB strategy. Passing was way up, running back committees were gaining popularlity and if you ignored, a lot of the RBs would fall to you pretty late for value.

he's also talking about what's essentially a winner take all strategy, which is something that best ball is moving away from

but more importantly, even if you go 3 RB first three picks, to not take a 4th with a late pick in the teams is just silly. There's a lot of decent RBs that fall super late and a 16th round RB typically has a higher ceiling than a 16th round WR. You only need James Conners to miss one game for Jaylen Samuels to have a huge week. Meanwhile Antonio Calloway is never going to be much higher than the 3rd or 4th option on CLE even if some guys get hurt

this one looks like 2nd & 3rd round picks went to RB and then from there I punted it and grabbed a few guys for bye weeks and what if flex, I typically prefer to get 3 solid RBs with different byes and then a 4th if they fall late


Here's one with a more traditional RB build for me where I hammer it with some early picks then quickly moved on to WR & TE before grabbing the last remaining guys with jobs in place, I usually punt QB but Rodgers fell super late and then Brees was still hanging around a few rounds later


I went Trequan and Allison there for QB correlation since I already felt I had a very solid set of 4 WRs so there decided to do some lineup correlation on guys I normally don't draft

Here are the kind of QB alignments I normally go with




I try to pair Kyler/Darnold whenever possible but the hype train is real so I can rarely get him without overpaying so my shares are far lower than I'd prefer

I found his bit about 3 DEF interesting, it is something I may have overlooked. Although on just giving a passing glance, the upside is fairly capped there and your DEF can't get a season ending injury so I prefer to stick with 2 there but definitely something I'll include as something to statistically test I expand my model for next season
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08-11-2019 , 05:01 PM
I’m in an 8 team dynasty league. Keep 10 players and we start 2 QBs. I’ve decided to keep 2 QBs, Baker Mayfield, and one other. Who should I keep? Brady, Winston, or Jimmy G
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08-11-2019 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSayre
I’m in an 8 team dynasty league. Keep 10 players and we start 2 QBs. I’ve decided to keep 2 QBs, Baker Mayfield, and one other. Who should I keep? Brady, Winston, or Jimmy G
There aren't any better QB's available in an 8 team league? I guess everyone carries 3 minimum? Can you draft Murray?
Gun to my head I hold Winston I guess but not too happy with it.
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08-11-2019 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
There aren't any better QB's available in an 8 team league? I guess everyone carries 3 minimum? Can you draft Murray?
Gun to my head I hold Winston I guess but not too happy with it.
Yeah, several guys in this league love having QBs. Tried to get Prescott or Goff from the guy who also has Watson. However, he’s going to keep all 3, which is crazy to me. Since I won the championship last year, I pick last and the guy picking first already said he’s taking Murray.

Best QB I could trade for is Ben. Hadn’t thought too much about that because seems similar to Brady. But that could be an option. Other than that, maybe Darnold or Cousins.
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08-11-2019 , 06:24 PM
I’d definitely keep Winston over those other two. Good thing you snagged Baker last year.
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08-11-2019 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
I’d definitely keep Winston over those other two. Good thing you snagged Baker last year.
Interesting story about that. I’m the Browns fan in the group, but somebody else drafted him way earlier than what I thought he’d go. Amari Cooper got dropped before he went to Dallas and I was able to pick him up. Needing a QB badly (because I lost Jimmy G) I traded Cooper and Dalvin Cook for Baker.
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08-11-2019 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
lol @ my league.

PPR league with 1 RB/WR/TE and 3 flex

Goff
Conner (K), Eckler, L. Murray, D. Henderson, Singletary
Diggs(K), Antonio Brown(K), Golladay, Westbrook, Curtis Samuel, Tyrell Williams (A-Brown handcuff?)
Engram
Only loosely following your posting here ITT and you seem to have a good grasp on fantasy football but wondering if you even like this team?

RB/WR/TE and 3 flex league seems like a huge cop out
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08-12-2019 , 09:33 AM
our commish decided on his own to

take away a flex spot since people complained about not having enough good players to start
switch to auction waivers (fine, but only if you are going to have an auction draft)
move to full ppr

all of which make the top picks more valuable. you'd have to actively try to miss the playoffs with a top 3 pick now. so dumb. might just drop out of this nonsense instead of all the excitement coming from the draft randomizer
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08-12-2019 , 11:08 AM
If you’re looking for a new league, the $50 league called “interest in new dynasty” has a spot open
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08-12-2019 , 12:11 PM
Anyone have TE's that they love in rounds 10+? I'm intrigued by marc andrews, but feel destined to fall in the jordan reed trap again. I love dallas goedart if something ever happened to ertz. Would love to hear who people are targeting late...kittle was a 10+ last year
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08-12-2019 , 12:46 PM
to the above, there's 1 spot open in a $50 dynasty league.

Yahoo, full PPR, all 2p2pers

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08-12-2019 , 12:46 PM
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08-12-2019 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar1
Anyone have TE's that they love in rounds 10+? I'm intrigued by marc andrews, but feel destined to fall in the jordan reed trap again. I love dallas goedart if something ever happened to ertz. Would love to hear who people are targeting late...kittle was a 10+ last year
Delanie Walker is my late round target and I'm leaning towards Trey Burton as my fail safe. Will gamble that last year was a flukey miss and 2nd year in the Nagy offense will show some production and Kyle Rudolph if really in a pinch.

Any Dallas homers have an opinion about Witten?
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08-12-2019 , 01:17 PM
Guys still have 5 spots available in the $300 PPR league.
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08-12-2019 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
Delanie Walker is my late round target and I'm leaning towards Trey Burton as my fail safe. Will gamble that last year was a flukey miss and 2nd year in the Nagy offense will show some production and Kyle Rudolph if really in a pinch.

Any Dallas homers have an opinion about Witten?
Slower than a week of Sundays, and is basically just going to be used to convert every single 3rd and 2. Dallas will be run heavy with Zeke, and not that much more pass heavy without. Dallas hasn't really got space to support any fantasy players after Zeke and Cooper (and their backups).

Low upside, low floor, avoiding everywhere will be the plan.
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08-12-2019 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar1
Anyone have TE's that they love in rounds 10+? I'm intrigued by marc andrews, but feel destined to fall in the jordan reed trap again. I love dallas goedart if something ever happened to ertz. Would love to hear who people are targeting late...kittle was a 10+ last year
I'm on board with Reed or Andrews if you wait on TE. Another interesting strat I've heard discussed lately is to pair Herndon with Eifert, that way you're only banking on Eifert staying healthy for a few weeks (perhaps still pushing it), and AJ Green is likely to be out for a few of those weeks too, which should translate into more targets for Eifert than normal. Then you have a top 10 TE with breakout potential for the rest of the year in Herndon, and the combined draft capital you spend on those 2 guys is negligible.

Darren Waller is another super late dart throw that has a ton of upside (though with a floor of being a complete zero), and rookie TE's pretty much always suck, but Noah Fant's measurables were pretty damn tantalizing.
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08-12-2019 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by movieman2g
to the above, there's 1 spot open in a $50 dynasty league.

Yahoo, full PPR, all 2p2pers

dumpsterfire.jpeg
Wow, it must've taken a lot of hard work over the years to cultivate a team that bad. Truly impressive. Hope you guys are offering a discount on the entry fee for a year or two
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08-12-2019 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets

switch to auction waivers (fine, but only if you are going to have
lol wat
FAAB waiver system works perfectly fine with any style draft, and is infinitely better than standard rolling waiver priority. Why do you think you should only run it with an auction draft?
You realize the budgets for drafting and for waivers are two completely separate pools right?
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08-12-2019 , 04:33 PM
Speaking of discounts for shitty teams. I run a dynasty league where we are taking on 2 new owners (2 previous owners left) and we gave them a $50 discount each for this year and next (total buy-in for everyone else=$100).

We collected $100 a piece up front with the idea of luring in new owners/paying out some of the money after 10 years. I think I'm going to put it to a vote but for the next 2 years do you think that $100 we are missing because of the discount should come from the payouts the next 2 years or the extra money we collected?

It seems obvious to take it from the extra money, right?
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08-12-2019 , 04:38 PM
Yes it does. Why the change of mind now?
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08-12-2019 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cs3
lol wat
FAAB waiver system works perfectly fine with any style draft, and is infinitely better than standard rolling waiver priority. Why do you think you should only run it with an auction draft?
You realize the budgets for drafting and for waivers are two completely separate pools right?
waiver priority was the only thing that kept the top picks from being a complete blowout. Id rather not just play draft pick randomizer 2019. Is there a way to scale the budgets? #1 should get like 50% of the baseline
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08-12-2019 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
waiver priority was the only thing that kept the top picks from being a complete blowout. Id rather not just play draft pick randomizer 2019. Is there a way to scale the budgets? #1 should get like 50% of the baseline


Try to pitch a third round reversal if auction is off the table. Helps a bunch to mitigate the advantage the top picks get in a standard snake draft.
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08-12-2019 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Yes it does. Why the change of mind now?
hey, any interest in joining a 20$ league?

we currently have 11 managers, and will be having the live-draft on Sunday the 25th of August

yahoo league

superuberbob, a well known 2+2er will be commissioner and doing the escrow

50%
30%
and 20%

are the payouts to the top 3

anyone else is welcome to join as well

the league is hosted at another forum. please pm me, and ill provide you with a link to that forum. thx!
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