In parenthesis ESPN ADP at position

QB: Any of the QBs left after the first person in my league takes their 2nd QB.
RB: James White (23), Lamar Miller (30)
WR: Westbrook (35), Goodwin (74), Godwin (24)

Try not to think of it as targeting specific players, moreso just target value with each pick. This mindset helps you avoid the common trap of making stupid mistakes in the name of "getting your guys". That being said, happy to share some thoughts on specific player values.

Winston and Goff are fine options if you're the last one to take a starting qb, I don't mind pairing someone like them (or Ben/Rivers type) with Lamar Jackson give LJax's ceiling, or just rolling with LJax with plans to stream if it doesn't work out. This is assuming someone jumps on Murray early, or he fits this bill even moreso. QB is just beyond stupid deep this year.

There tends to be too much optimism baked into Foreman's draft position for my liking given all of his question marks. Read a quote from O'Brien the other day insinuating that Foreman was not even the number 2 back at this point, and while positive camp spin on players tends to be a dime a dozen (I'm still paying for buying into the Bills coaching staff's comments about giving CJ Spiller the ball "until he throws up", which turned out to apparently be 12-13 carries a game or something lol), negative camp quotes tend to be much more telling/accurate. Miller is among the most boring picks possible, but pretty certain to provide decent value where he is going.

Ballage has been getting hyped up a bunch in camp (and hence his ADP has seen a big bump), but Dolphins o-line/entire o seems so helpless that it is hard to set his ceiling as anything too special.

Don't see Jackson as anything special (and think Ekeler is pretty good), but he's going late enough to take a flyer on and hope things shake out in his favor.

Agree on Kirk and Dede love, have Kirk a tier ahead though.

I think Carson is one of the better values going at RB at this point. I like Penny as a player also, but see no reason why Carson won't get the lion's share of the carries. The coaching staff clearly loves him and loves establishing the run, as well as having a history of disregarding draft pedigree when it comes to personnel decisions.

Some guys besides those I mentioned that I think are currently undervalued:

Rookie rbs: Jacobs, Montgomery and Sanders all have much more upside than current ADP would indicate.

#2 WR's: Godwin (though the hype may get out of control soon), Mike Williams, Boyd (though I suppose he's a 1 for the time being, and I haven't seen how his perception has been changed by the public by the AJ news yet), Fuller, even guys a few tiers lower like Samuel, MVS/Allison, Anthony Miller, Moncrief.

Also a big fan of Parris Campbell as a late dart throw.

Mark Andrews is my go-to TE if I punt that position, also think guys like Eifert and Reed are being undervalued, but I totally understand it with them. Just think the replacement level floor is no different than any of the guys that are getting drafted around them and they have higher ceilings if they can somehow, however unlikely, remain healthy.

Some guys that come to mind that I'm fading at current prices:

RB: Gurley, Gordon, Freeman, Mack, Lindsey, Guice, Drake, Coleman/McKinnon (rather have Breida later)

WR: Edleman, Ridley, Landry, Marvin Jones, Cooper Kupp

TE: Ebron and Cook (rather have Vance or Njoku than either of those guys personally)

And all the QB's, D's and K's obv

I agree with most of those fades @ ADP but why Edelman? Dude has been so solid in PPR and should gobble up targets again this year. Worried about the thumb or something else?

Anybody doing any Best Balls on Draft? I'd like to think I had something to do with them adding another Mini Best Ball Championship.

PS. I can't get enough of them. I'm a teacher, so it's my quiet time of year. As the Fantasy Draft Season starts, I go back to work. These Best Ball drafts are a great way to familiarize yourself with, get a sense of ADP and value, and get action.

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Obsessed with DRAFT. Picked it up last year and been grinding the $1 and $3 buy-ins this year to get in volume. 200 drafts in so far although I haven’t fired any of the tournaments yet

Samesies. After listening to JJ Zachariason's podcast, I dabbled. Now, I'm hooked.

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I think most agree he is a low ceiling option due to his historic lack of TD production/efficiency, and I'm not much on drafting low ceiling guys in round 3 or 4, but I would argue he also has a much lower floor than he tends to get credit for. He's seen as this safe, solid option, when he is a 33 years old with PED history that gets banged up a ton and is playing with a QB that is about to turn 42.

In addition public perception of his historic production tends to be off due to playoff success (he has always killed it in the post-season). Hell, I remember there was a bunch of discussion on sports talk shows and whatnot last postseason about whether or not he should get into the Hall of Fame, with many of the "experts" being of the opinion he should be in. This is a dude that has a whopping total of two 1000 yard seasons in his career, both barely so, and one time managed to sneak across the goal line a career high 7 times in a single season. If he's a Hall of Famer, Eric Decker should be unanimous.

These factors tend to lead to him never being off the board before I start to even consider taking him, hence the fade.

And finally, of course, lol ppr forever and always

Are you drafting a lot in the $1/$3 leagues? If so I’m sure we are in a bunch together.

@wheat if lolppr means you’re playing standard then ya Edelman an easy fade lol

Yup best balls are fun + addictive (so easy to sign up for "just one more" while you've got 4-5 simultaneously running). I did ~40-50 of them during the past 2 summers. And with some of the consolation prizes being free entries for the following year, you'll get pulled right back in.

I did some $1s until I felt comfortable, then I have stuck to the $5 Mini Championship. Last year I did 13 Minis (plus a ton of $1s) and went deep with 3 lineups in the Mini. Those 3 earned me about a 220% ROI.

So far, I'm in for 31 Minis. More please.

10 team, 0 PPR, 1/2/2/1/1Flex, keep 2. I draft from the 4th position.

Didn't pay attention last year, so I don't have much to go on other than my team sucked.

D. Johnson (1st)
Kelce (3rd)
Ingram (7th)
Robby Anderson (9th)
Guice (12th)
C. Ridley (16th)

I lean Johnson/Kelce even though it's not huge value just to have a core.

Who do I keep?

kelce is a lock
do you know who would be available at 1.4 if you didn't keep DJ?

Not really. I would assume someone ranked roughly 15-20th. I think only 1 of the 3 picking in front of me is keeping a 1st rounder. So DJ would likely go to someone else and then the dropoff would be to like a 15th ranked person maybe (just guessing that based on mostly good players kept with an occasional value keep).

ah yeah I like your leans then to at least lock up one of the big 5 RBs. Although I don't play any standard leagues so not sure how much 0 ppr dings DJs value.

What do you guys think of my dynasty team heading into the rookie draft? This is a 12 team, half-PPR league with typical scoring, 4 pt/passing TD. Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex, TE.

QB: Mahomes, Bridgeworth
RB: CMC, Henry, Guice, Tevin, Howard, CJ Anderson
WR: AB, Tyreek, AJ, Godwin, Landry, MVS, Allison, Tre'Quan, Albert Wilson, David Moore, Conley, Kumerow
TE: Henry
Notable draft picks: 1.8

Obviously, I'm in win-now mode and I'm very into trading. Unfortunately, the rest of the league has one active trader, a few who are open to the occasional trade and half the league won't even respond. Hilton, D. Freeman and Ingram are on teams obviously in rebuild mode. Hilton is a main target of mine, but the guy is a pain to deal with. Given the lack of scoring importance for QBs in this league, I would like to package Mahomes with a couple of my RB/WR2s for a star. Something like Mahomes, Henry and Godwin for a 1st-round caliber player.

Seems solid. Prob not the favorite in a dynasty league but should be enough for you to be likely to make playoffs in most formats. Depth could be an issue. Much prefer Hilton to those other two options as far as trade targets, though I know non-responsive owners can be super tilting.

That trade package seems like it could be pretty attractive, kind of a weird one though given that I would imagine the overlap of people that are high on both Mahomes and Godwin would be low. Still not likely enough for a top 10 guy, but maybe a fringe 1st rounder. Might be a decent time to look into moving Tyreek as well.

Good luck!

Don't think I'd be a fan of moving Mahomes in dynasty. You've got a fire and forget QB for like the next 10 years who is going to have some massive games every year
Maybe boring but it's kind of nice to just have a position on lock down.

Yeah, the thing is it's always so easy in dynasty, with 12 teams and about twice that many decent QB starters, to get a good older QB for cheap who will put up QB1 numbers. I don't want to trade Mahomes, but if I can use him in a package to get a young stud RB or WR then I think it makes sense.

Wheatsauce, I'd like to get McKinnon and Breida for cheap if I can. One owner has both. Who do you think I should offer from my WRs?

I have a deal in mind with the worst team in the league. He is a big Niners fan. I was thinking of offering him Tevin, McKinnon, Breida, 1.8 and my 2020 1st for his 2020 1st and 2nd. Maybe I can make the offer with 1.8 up and Deebo on the board.

Then what should I offer for Hilton? He has expressed interest in Landry and Tre'Quan in the past but seems to have cooled on them. He doesn't seem to like Tevin or Howard. I got Godwin from him early last season and he'd probably like him back, but I don't really want to give him or 1.8 since I'm looking to use those elsewhere. I'd like to give him Landry, MVS, Allison, Tre'Quan but don't think that will get it done.

HALP ME!

Sorry, I have never played on ESPN.

Can finally start doing some actual mocking now that I know one of my draft spots.

13th out of 14 in a 2 WR/2 RB with a WR/RB flex. Standard 0ppr flex.

Mix of sharps and duds in the league and there is bound to be some reaches in the draft so I'm hoping some good value will be there at the turn, something like Gordon or Bell falling to me would be nice. But certainly would be delighted with a Thomas/JuJu start or something of that nature.

Don’t think Gordon would be good value at all with either of your first 2 picks at this point. Seems like the league setup is pretty unoptimal for a WR/WR start so I’d be hoping one of the Conner/Bell/Chubb/Mixon tier of RBs falls to you and then grab whichever of the OBJ/Tyreek/JuJu/Thomas tier is left in round 2. Would also consider Kelce as well as Dalvin Cook or Damien Williams.

Good luck, 14 teamers can be tough!

Yes, 14 teamers are brutal if you don't reduce bench size by one or two. The waiver wire is ridiculously pillaged in a league this size.

I hear you that it's not optimal for WR/WR. Matter of personal preference really, but I have come full circle and think WR/WR from any non top 4 spot is really good this year.

Are you that concerned about the off field stuff for Gordon? I think he'll be great value this year.

I mean, we obv have no real idea, but the next bit of encouraging news I hear will be the first. Gordon was a big supporter of Le’Veon last year and seems to be willing to fight for what he thinks he deserves, and Chargers have seemed pretty meh about the whole situation (as they should be, lol at paying RBs big money). Plus I’ve long been lower on Gordon than the consensus, and I think he had a lot of red flags going into this year even before the holdout/trade demand.


I’m more than fine with a WR/WR start in most setups, but the combination of 14 team, non-ppr, and 2 wr 1 flex makes me pretty hesitant to not grab a top 10 rb, but I’m sure you know your league much more than I do and if you are confident that you can stack RB value later on then I suppose it could be ok.