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08-28-2019 , 05:55 PM
14 tm .5ppr 4 point Passing TD
1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1 flex, te, k, def

1.(13)Odell Beckham Jr (Cle - WR)
2.(16)Dalvin Cook (Min - RB)
3.(41)Josh Jacobs (Oak - RB)
4.(44)Julian Edelman (NE - WR)
5.(69)DJ Moore (Car - WR)
6.(72)Christian Kirk (Ari - WR)
7.(97)Peyton Barber (TB - RB)
8.(100)Sammy Watkins (KC - WR)
9.(125)Kalen Ballage (Mia - RB)
10.(128)Dion Lewis (Ten - QB)
11.(153)Mitchell Trubisky (Chi - QB)
12.(156)Noah Fant (Den - TE)
13.(181)Ito Smith (Atl - RB)
14.(184)Dallas (DEF)
15.(209)Jason Myers (Sea - K)

Didn’t love the RB options after my first two so kept taking WRs but then I just tried to grab a bunch of depth. Don’t love my group but hopefully I run good on the risk side with Cook/Jacobs. How’d I do?
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08-28-2019 , 05:58 PM
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Yeah I cut Hyde already

White, Ekeler and Guice were available got sniped on white and went A.J. with my next pick but I probably should’ve gone Guice?


Seems a bit early for Guice. I like Ekeler more. Both are risky
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08-28-2019 , 07:26 PM
Defense streamers who do you like in week one? I am gunning for one of these, who do you like best?

CLE vs. TEN
BAL @ MIA
PHI vs. WAS
SEA vs. CIN
DAL vs. NYG
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08-28-2019 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mflip
14 tm .5ppr 4 point Passing TD
1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1 flex, te, k, def

1.(13)Odell Beckham Jr (Cle - WR)
2.(16)Dalvin Cook (Min - RB)
3.(41)Josh Jacobs (Oak - RB)
4.(44)Julian Edelman (NE - WR)
5.(69)DJ Moore (Car - WR)
6.(72)Christian Kirk (Ari - WR)
7.(97)Peyton Barber (TB - RB)
8.(100)Sammy Watkins (KC - WR)
9.(125)Kalen Ballage (Mia - RB)
10.(128)Dion Lewis (Ten - QB)
11.(153)Mitchell Trubisky (Chi - QB)
12.(156)Noah Fant (Den - TE)
13.(181)Ito Smith (Atl - RB)
14.(184)Dallas (DEF)
15.(209)Jason Myers (Sea - K)

Didn’t love the RB options after my first two so kept taking WRs but then I just tried to grab a bunch of depth. Don’t love my group but hopefully I run good on the risk side with Cook/Jacobs. How’d I do?
Good draft overall. The RB depth you have is fine, Ballage may actually be a reg star soon. Rookie TEs usually don't put up good fantasy numbers, so maybe try and get a better one. Between DJ Moore/Kirk, someone is getting benched weekly, maybe you can move one of them to a WR needy team.

Also, but doubtful, pickup A. Mattison from the Vikings - he's looked good, and D. Cook hasn't been the most durable.
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08-28-2019 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad22
Good draft overall. The RB depth you have is fine, Ballage may actually be a reg star soon. Rookie TEs usually don't put up good fantasy numbers, so maybe try and get a better one. Between DJ Moore/Kirk, someone is getting benched weekly, maybe you can move one of them to a WR needy team.



Also, but doubtful, pickup A. Mattison from the Vikings - he's looked good, and D. Cook hasn't been the most durable.


Mattison went before I picked Ito. Fant is just for optimistic upside. Will probably end up streaming weekly if I can’t pull off a trade
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08-28-2019 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
Defense streamers who do you like in week one? I am gunning for one of these, who do you like best?



CLE vs. TEN

BAL @ MIA

PHI vs. WAS

SEA vs. CIN

DAL vs. NYG


Rolling mostly with Dallas. Easy to get, solid talent, and while we don’t know as much about matchups at this point, vs NYG, @WAS, vs MIA sure seems like as good of a start as possible while we’re dialing things in.

Also have some Buffalo due to a bunch of talent and a solid start @NYJ and @NYG.
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08-28-2019 , 08:22 PM
Yeah, I have Dallas in both of my leagues that play with a team defense. Just easier than trying to pick a good season long one.
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08-28-2019 , 08:43 PM
I really like KC’s defense out of the gate. They don’t play a potent offense until week 6.

The main concern with them is the fact their offense is so potent. But even being one of the highest points against defense last season, they were still top 10 in fantasy points.

And I think the defense improved in the offseason.
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08-28-2019 , 09:07 PM
Help me keep my sanity. 7 keeper league. Standard scoring 2rb 3wr no flex. Players can be kept max of 4 years. So 84 players kept before the draft with a few choice nugs sprinkled in amongst the incoming rookies at the top of the draft.

I traded Carson for Woods along with a pick upgrade a few weeks ago.

As of now my keepers are Saquon, DJ, D will, Michel, Locket, Woods, and hunter Henry.

Been trying to trade DJ or William's plus a pick for WR1 to no avail. Offers very underwhelming. Most recent was 1.11 for my D will plus 2.11. AB was just traded for 1.11.

Am I unreasonable or do people just way over value draft picks because of "round value"? Like even though I have 4 RBs and can only play 2 I wouldn't trade Sony for 1.11 even though it might make my opening day roster slightly better. 1.11 player would likely be around 65th by adp (sony currently 37th on fantasy pros).

People in this league seem to think my demands are unreasonable when Sony if thrown back would easily go 4-7th overall in the draft. ODB, Kelce, Evan's are only notable players thrown back then the rookies.

Draft pick trades in this league drive me insane. Currently trying to trade Robby Anderson and J Gordon for a 3rd and no takers when both will be drafted late 1st/ early 2nd in the actual draft
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08-28-2019 , 09:07 PM
10 team 1.0 ppr

1. (1) Barkley
2. (20) Connor
3. (21) K Allen
4. (40) Thielen
5. (41) Woods
6. (60) Mack
7. (61) Jeffery
8. (80) Kirk
9. (81) Pollard
10. (100) McDonald
11. (101) Samuel
12. (120) K Murray
13. (121) L Jackson
14. (140) J Samuels



10 team 1.0 ppr

1. (6) Adams
2. (15) Kelce
3. (26) D Williams
4. (35) Diggs
5. (46) Ingram
6. (55) Mack
7. (66) M Williams
8. (75) Fuller
9. (86) Ekeler
10. (95) Newton
11. (106) Breida
12. (115) Murray
13. (126) Moncrief
14. (135) MVS
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08-28-2019 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mflip
Mattison went before I picked Ito. Fant is just for optimistic upside. Will probably end up streaming weekly if I can’t pull off a trade
Also, meant Ballage will be a regular "starter" soon, not star, although he might be really good too.
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08-28-2019 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Steroid Boy
hate my team - 10 team .5 ppr qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/flex/flex/te/k/dst

3) mccaffrey
18) evans
23) damien williams
38) woods
43) michel
58) aj green
63) hunter henry
78) samuel
83) fuller
98) mccoy
103) golden tate
118) darrell henderson
123) zuerelien
138) jamies
143) vikings
Uhh, I love your team. I think Green was a reach, but he won't look that way when he's playing. McCoy and the early kicker are my only real criticisms, but I get it, McCoy was cheap.
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08-28-2019 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I'll try to give some feedback in here soon, dynasty draft took all my football hours, I've done NOTHING to prepare for my Standard draft tomorrow (I ****ing hate std btw).

So questions!

1) Latest you're drafting M Gordon? Latest you're drafting Zeke? Obv it's reach-city to get the cuffs. I'm tempted to avoid, but eventually too low is too low.

2) Chubb or Conner?


3) Gurley or Mixon?

3) Am I crazy or are Aaron Jones and Kerryon Johnson's ADP's just too low? Why? I guess same with Fournette. 2.10 is just because of injury risk?

4) Are we really ever drafting Kelce there? Really?

5) Mack in the mid-4th seems like good value, right?
1.) Gordon - 6th round, Zeke - I have no idea because I'm literally never getting him.

2.) Conner all day. Tomlin is a creature of habit. A stubborn one. He feeds one man the rock. That's his deal. Trust that.

3.) Gurley. I just hate CIN's offense to support a top-5 RB. GUrley's ceiling is RB1.

4.) **** no.

5.) **** no. Crap offense and there are just better options there: Montgomery, Woods, maybe Ertz. Hell, I'll just go Mahomes over Mack. Is Devonta available? OK, I'll take him.
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08-28-2019 , 09:58 PM
12-team keeper
0.75ppr, 6ppptd
QB/2RB/3WR/TE/2WRT/DST, no kicker, 8 bench


1. (11) Julio Jones (Atl - WR)
2. (14) JuJu Smith-Schuster (Pit - WR)
3. (35) Zach Ertz (Phi - TE)
4. (38) David Montgomery (Chi - RB)
5. (59) Duke Johnson Jr. (Hou - RB)
6. (62) Austin Ekeler (LAC - RB)
7. (83) Cam Newton (Car - QB)
8. (86) Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR)
9. (107) Emmanuel Sanders (Den - WR)
10. (110) Golden Tate (NYG - WR)
11. (131) Deebo Samuel (SF - WR)
12. (134) Mohamed Sanu (Atl - WR)
13. (155) Giovani Bernard (Cin - RB)
14. (158) Tre'Quan Smith (NO - WR)
15. (179) KeeSean Johnson (Ari - WR)
16. (182) Dak Prescott (Dal - QB)
17. (203) Demaryius Thomas (NE - WR)
18. (206) Dallas (Dal - DEF)

Traded Deebo Samuel for Mike Davis.
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08-28-2019 , 10:58 PM
Where do you guys have Jarvis Landry? He's not someone that I'm high on but I just did a draft and he was still sitting there in mid 8th rd (12 team league), so I felt I had to take him. I think it's the first time I've ever had him in his entire career.
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08-28-2019 , 11:06 PM
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Where do you guys have Jarvis Landry? He's not someone that I'm high on but I just did a draft and he was still sitting there in mid 8th rd (12 team league), so I felt I had to take him. I think it's the first time I've ever had him in his entire career.

Mid 8th seems fine for him. With the presence of Odell and the improvement of Njoku, people just seem to think he's gonna end up with alot less than usual.
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08-28-2019 , 11:09 PM
The loss of Duke Johnson should help Landry, but yeah, I’m not too high on him. Mid 8th in a 12 man league is solid, though.
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08-28-2019 , 11:20 PM
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Where do you guys have Jarvis Landry? He's not someone that I'm high on but I just did a draft and he was still sitting there in mid 8th rd (12 team league), so I felt I had to take him. I think it's the first time I've ever had him in his entire career.
I don't have him. Anywhere.

I guess 7th in a full ppr. Otherwise, I'd rather just wait for Fitzgerald or Sanders.
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08-29-2019 , 12:20 AM
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10 team 1.0 ppr

1. (1) Barkley
2. (20) Connor
3. (21) K Allen
4. (40) Thielen
5. (41) Woods
6. (60) Mack
7. (61) Jeffery
8. (80) Kirk
9. (81) Pollard
10. (100) McDonald
11. (101) Samuel
12. (120) K Murray
13. (121) L Jackson
14. (140) J Samuels



10 team 1.0 ppr

1. (6) Adams
2. (15) Kelce
3. (26) D Williams
4. (35) Diggs
5. (46) Ingram
6. (55) Mack
7. (66) M Williams
8. (75) Fuller
9. (86) Ekeler
10. (95) Newton
11. (106) Breida
12. (115) Murray
13. (126) Moncrief
14. (135) MVS
First one looks like a good league to be in Nice job!

Second one looks quite good through 4 rounds (I would've went with someone other than Adams in 1, but I know I have him lower than most), and closed out strong in 11-14, but not a huge fan of the middle besides the Ekeler pick.

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12-team keeper
0.75ppr, 6ppptd
QB/2RB/3WR/TE/2WRT/DST, no kicker, 8 bench


1. (11) Julio Jones (Atl - WR)
2. (14) JuJu Smith-Schuster (Pit - WR)
3. (35) Zach Ertz (Phi - TE)
4. (38) David Montgomery (Chi - RB)
5. (59) Duke Johnson Jr. (Hou - RB)
6. (62) Austin Ekeler (LAC - RB)
7. (83) Cam Newton (Car - QB)
8. (86) Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR)
9. (107) Emmanuel Sanders (Den - WR)
10. (110) Golden Tate (NYG - WR)
11. (131) Deebo Samuel (SF - WR)
12. (134) Mohamed Sanu (Atl - WR)
13. (155) Giovani Bernard (Cin - RB)
14. (158) Tre'Quan Smith (NO - WR)
15. (179) KeeSean Johnson (Ari - WR)
16. (182) Dak Prescott (Dal - QB)
17. (203) Demaryius Thomas (NE - WR)
18. (206) Dallas (Dal - DEF)

Traded Deebo Samuel for Mike Davis.
Did you not have any keepers? First 5 picks look ok, Ekeler seems a bit early, but I can see an argument for it. Got really bad really fast after that though, particularly 7-12. Deebo was probably the best pick of that run, but then you traded him to handcuff the rookie rb you drafted at 38 overall
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08-29-2019 , 01:25 AM
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Did you not have any keepers? First 5 picks look ok, Ekeler seems a bit early, but I can see an argument for it. Got really bad really fast after that though, particularly 7-12. Deebo was probably the best pick of that run, but then you traded him to handcuff the rookie rb you drafted at 38 overall
Thanks.

1. This is the first year of the league.

2. I feel the same way, which is why I posted it. Definitely not my A-game. Then, Yahoo gave me a B and I knew I really ****ed up.

3. I, honestly, know very little about Deebo. But thought there was little chance he'll start for me and wanted to land Jackson or Davis for Tre'Quan. That didn't work.
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08-29-2019 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Where do you guys have Jarvis Landry? He's not someone that I'm high on but I just did a draft and he was still sitting there in mid 8th rd (12 team league), so I felt I had to take him. I think it's the first time I've ever had him in his entire career.
I have massive exposure to him, he's being treated like leftovers with obj in town but they have very different roles and if anything I think they'll help each other with better targets ather than compete for targets
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08-29-2019 , 02:28 AM
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1) Latest you're drafting M Gordon? Latest you're drafting Zeke? Obv it's reach-city to get the cuffs. I'm tempted to avoid, but eventually too low is too low.

2) Chubb or Conner?


3) Gurley or Mixon?

3) Am I crazy or are Aaron Jones and Kerryon Johnson's ADP's just too low? Why? I guess same with Fournette. 2.10 is just because of injury risk?

4) Are we really ever drafting Kelce there? Really?

5) Mack in the mid-4th seems like good value, right?
1. Gordon late 4th early 5th

Zeke would have to read up on some more but probably mid 2nd if things seemed positive, mid 3rd if still in limbo

2. This doesn't matter, but I prefer Conner. There's not much point in debating if you prefer these two as the outcome is so variance dependent even if you're right you could still be wrong.

3. Mixon 100%, we don't know if Gurley is healthy and even if he is, he'll certainly not get the same volume as he did in the past - we've seen peak Gurley and that's never coming back

4 you mean first round? Yes, we are. There's a huge dropoff after the first few TEs and arguably a massive one right after Kelce as well. Any RB or WR you take here instead could easily be outproduced by one you'll take in the next round or even two rounds later. It's a scarce position and his numbers aren't that far off what you'd expect from a far more common WR you'd take at this point instead

5. Mack usually didn't last that long so yeah. I personally have him 28th overall on my best ball chart. Should probably drop him to low 30s without Luck but yeah, if he's there in the 4th that's both surprising and great value
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08-29-2019 , 05:28 AM
sean koerner from the action network (i think number one on fantasy pros 2 years in a row recently and a pretty big quaint) has it basically kelce 30 points over kittle and ertz and then another 20-30 point drop off between those two and everyone else. that is tough to pass up. i have kelce or kittle in almost every league. in a lot of home leagues i think they fall more than they should esp if it is old school 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex- the deeper it gets the less important tight end is


that being said i remember doing the same thing one year with gronk 3 or 4 years ago where he was early 2nd end of 1st arguably and it did not turn out well at all so i don't feel that great about it. i think there is a pretty substantial drop off after the first 7 RBS for me (chubb being last- bell/mixon/gurley being the next tier for me) and the top 8 WRs (evans being the last tier one guy for me- brown or keenan allen types being the next tier for most people although i have brown way lower than even that and hes a do not draft for me) and i don't think i will ever pass on kelce once those 15 are gone and i'll take him over a couple of those guys sometimes


kind of depends on what you rand in a snake draft too. if you get the 12-13 or something you either take kelce or you are very likely not getting a top tier tight end (although i fist pumped davante adams/julio jones then got lucky with kittle falling to last pick in 3rd round and damien williams 4.01 in one 12 teamer in probably my favorite start of any 12 team draft in years)

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08-29-2019 , 07:45 AM
I think there’s a very good argument for taking Kelce at his current ADP, but I don’t like my teams when I do, because of the depth at the other positions. I much prefer my squads the times I get Engram / Howard / Henry as I feel okay at the position but much stronger at WR / RB.
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08-29-2019 , 10:03 AM
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sean koerner from the action network (i think number one on fantasy pros 2 years in a row recently and a pretty big quaint) has it basically kelce 30 points over kittle and ertz and then another 20-30 point drop off between those two and everyone else. that is tough to pass up. i have kelce or kittle in almost every league. in a lot of home leagues i think they fall more than they should esp if it is old school 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex- the deeper it gets the less important tight end is


that being said i remember doing the same thing one year with gronk 3 or 4 years ago where he was early 2nd end of 1st arguably and it did not turn out well at all so i don't feel that great about it. i think there is a pretty substantial drop off after the first 7 RBS for me (chubb being last- bell/mixon/gurley being the next tier for me) and the top 8 WRs (evans being the last tier one guy for me- brown or keenan allen types being the next tier for most people although i have brown way lower than even that and hes a do not draft for me) and i don't think i will ever pass on kelce once those 15 are gone and i'll take him over a couple of those guys sometimes


kind of depends on what you rand in a snake draft too. if you get the 12-13 or something you either take kelce or you are very likely not getting a top tier tight end (although i fist pumped davante adams/julio jones then got lucky with kittle falling to last pick in 3rd round and damien williams 4.01 in one 12 teamer in probably my favorite start of any 12 team draft in years)
I will be taking Kelce at 1.05 in my 8 man league, but like you said, the deeper the league the less important TE gets. So in an 8 man, Kelce should ideally be a huge asset. I'll still be able to get quality RB/WR in the following rounds.

Also, one big distinction between Gronk and Kelce is health. The last time Gronk played 16 games was in 2011. He hit 15 games in 2014 and 2015. In 2016-2018 he played 8, 14, 13.

Kelce has missed 1 game in the last 5 seasons. Kelce is about as sure of a thing as can be, especially in that KC offense. Which means he will now get injured in week 1 lol.

The last serious injury Kelce had was a micro fracture procedure to repair a bone bruise his rookie season. He only appeared in one game that season and did not have a catch. It was in 2013.
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