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08-26-2019 , 04:49 PM
I have spent a lot of time preparing for my regular snake ppr drafts...lots of mocks etc. I just got invited to a high stakes auction draft, but have never done one before. I have plenty of time to prepare, what do u all suggest i do to get ready? (outside reading intro manuals on how to auction draft etc)? Any guidance would be much appreciated

And Wolves, definitely looking forward to your thoughts on this season, missed having you in the thread this summer
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08-26-2019 , 05:52 PM
Does Derrick Henry suck ass? I was under the impression he was in for a bigger workload this season based on the reports and whatnot. Now this big red Q next to his name has me thinking he's about to go 3 YPC the first 6 games and **** me.
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08-26-2019 , 06:46 PM
I avoid him at all costs. I will never regret losing a PPR league because I didn't have Henry on my team.
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08-26-2019 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
I avoid him at all costs. I will never regret losing a PPR league because I didn't have Henry on my team.
This is correct.
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08-26-2019 , 07:26 PM
As a former Henry truther I am inclined to agree
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08-26-2019 , 07:44 PM
Are we taking Zeke in a full point PPR League at #4, or are we going with a safer pick like Hopkins or Michael Thomas?
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08-26-2019 , 07:50 PM
I’d go Hopkins or Adams over Thomas. If you like DJ enough, go DJ or even Bell or Conner or Chubb.

If you’re feeling frisky, I would consider Kelce. I think he will be so far ahead of TE2, it’ll be worth it as you could get similar RBs/WRs in round 2 to the round 1 availability at 4.

I’m not touching Zeke if he isn’t signed by the time I fantasy draft. Too many other guaranteed guys at the top.
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08-26-2019 , 07:51 PM
My motto is to do my best to get guaranteed production in rounds 1-5.
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08-26-2019 , 08:17 PM
does anyone know of an auction draft needing players? like $200-$500? or maybe we could start a thread
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08-26-2019 , 08:29 PM
I took Julio over Zeke at 7th in a .5 PPR and not sure how I feel. It was my cheapest league and seemed like a bunch of amateurs so I went conservative. My RBs ended up being Mixon, Fournette, James White, Ekeler, Pollard, Justin Jackson so I should be more than fine.
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08-26-2019 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GBP04
does anyone know of an auction draft needing players? like $200-$500? or maybe we could start a thread
Start a thread because I’m interested in finding something late too
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08-26-2019 , 09:41 PM
Finished my dynasty/keeper league where we keep 11 for free and draft 6 + a defense with the first 26 picks in the draft (of 84 picks). I got caught bidding players up 3 times and ended up w/ 4 Rbs, but because of my keepers my team is still solid. 12 teams and soft trades happen quite a bit. start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 2 flex, 1te

Bolded are the ones I drafted.

godgers, brady
saquon, conner, cohen, c thompson
julio, amari, b cooks, edelman, hilton, watkins, n'keal harry, marvin jones, geronimo, crowder
hooper
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08-26-2019 , 10:15 PM
Full point PPR: 4/12

QB: Big Ben
RB: Zeke
RB: Damian Williams
WR: Mike Evans
WR: TY Hilton
WR: Fuller
TE: Andrews
Flex: David Montgomery
Defense: Rams
Bench: Gallup
Bench: Ty Montgomery
Bench: Harry
Bench: Moncrief
Bench: Pollard

Don’t love my team. Hilton in the 4th round was bad, Montgomery in the 5th was good. Rest was meh. Gonna need to work the waiver wire and stream WR’s. It seemed like RB depth is deeper than I originally thought.
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08-26-2019 , 10:47 PM
Where on your draft board would you guys rank B. Cooks and R. Woods relative to each other in 0.5 PPR.

I spent about 15 min trying to come up with something and then I just decided that flipping a coin was just as good as anything I was going to come up with. Anyone have compelling reasons to place one clearly ahead of the other?
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08-27-2019 , 12:14 AM
I know a lot of places have them close, but I have Cooks in a different tier than Woods.

Woods was a little better last year. Cooks has been drastically better every other year of their careers. Woods set a career high for TDs last year. Cooks had his lowest TD total since his rookie year when he only played ~half the games. Admittedly, Cooks has been on better offenses, but his consistency is unquestionable, whereas we have one year of this type of production from Woods to go off of.

Their floors might be close, but Cooks has a higher ceiling and a higher likelihood of approaching his ceiling than Woods. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if last year was the best we ever see out of Woods, I would be fairly surprised if it's the best we see of Cooks going forward. Also, small sample obv, but for what it's worth, when all 3 of the Rams starting WR played last year, Cooks went for 42-666-3, while Woods went for 33-483-3, so there is an argument to be made that Kupp is more likely to hurt Woods' production than Cooks' production.

Give me Cooks all day.
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08-27-2019 , 12:32 AM
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This is a keeper league and is going to 2 QB next year, and not a single QB drafted before rd9? That whole draft looks really weird to me
This was basically going to be my point. My whole draft plan was based on teams not keeping a QB picking a top level QB early. Since I have Mahomes and can only keep one there wasn't a lot of value in a Rodgers type in R4 and trying to fling a trade later when people likely have their 3 keepers locked up.

Unsure if I was supposed to take one otherwise
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08-27-2019 , 01:11 AM
PPR league that lets you have two keepers. I pick 9th overall. Keeper #1 is Chubb in the 8th round.

Do you prefer McCaffrey for my first round pick (9 overall) or Duke Johnson at the 7th with no other RBs on the roster or Kittle in the 9th?

Pretty sure it has to be CMC but just double checking

Last edited by JimHalpert; 08-27-2019 at 01:15 AM. Reason: had it incorrect
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08-27-2019 , 01:29 AM
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The discussion wasn't on DJ particularly, it was on projections for gordon in a vaccuum, he said gordon would have gotten 1850 yards, also felt gordon has a soft schedule, i disagreed. In hidsight, 125 is probably a little too high because that's 2k not 1850 but then again my 100 is very low as well and a pretty extreme position. Most likely he doesn't play and gets about 110 all purpose yards in the handful of games he does play and it's a wash.

I'm not sure why you really care about our huge $1 bet but if you want to do a separate bet of Gordon vs DJ as that seems more to your liking, I'll happily take that action on the DJ side of things.



I don't have to defend why Goff is a fine QB to own as the 12th one off the board. Even the more standard takes on him have him comfortably in the top 12.

I have him 5th post Luck and the average Fantasy Pro projection guy has his at 11th. It's most likely they haven't updated for Luck yet so really 10th.


*I know these are my best ball rankings but I haven't run my model yet for standard leagues but I doubt there would be much change at the QB position, at least not in the top 10 or so

I also think they are wrong in their rankings. Goff was 6th best QB last year based on standard scoring and that's with Andrew Luck in the mix. In 2017 he was 12th but if he played all 16 games he could have easily finished as high as 5th because 5th-12th all within a dozen points of each other.

With the team obviously forced to move away from a Gurley centric offense this year and having a healthy and all returning receiving corps, expecting anything less than another top 10 finish is insane. I admit, if I'm that far ahead of others, I probably project him too high at QB5, but there can not be any sane argument for having him at QB12 and not thinking that's good value there.

I'm deeply curious why you think Goff at QB12 is not value, I never once thoguht that could possibly be construed as a hot take.
We can do a buck on Gordon vs DJ

I wasn't passively-aggressively saying Goff was bad. I think there are 14-15 QBs worth starting and have Goff somewhere in the QB9-11, so 12 just didn't really stand out to me, but I get what you're sayin.
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08-27-2019 , 01:32 AM
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Does Derrick Henry suck ass? I was under the impression he was in for a bigger workload this season based on the reports and whatnot. Now this big red Q next to his name has me thinking he's about to go 3 YPC the first 6 games and **** me.
Would never consider him at his ADP. He just doesn't, like, do anything.
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08-27-2019 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
Are we taking Zeke in a full point PPR League at #4, or are we going with a safer pick like Hopkins or Michael Thomas?
Hopkins. Consider Julio, but go back to Hopkins.

Why Thomas over Julio, Juju, and Davante?
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08-27-2019 , 01:45 AM
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Where on your draft board would you guys rank B. Cooks and R. Woods relative to each other in 0.5 PPR.

I spent about 15 min trying to come up with something and then I just decided that flipping a coin was just as good as anything I was going to come up with. Anyone have compelling reasons to place one clearly ahead of the other?
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce
I know a lot of places have them close, but I have Cooks in a different tier than Woods.

Woods was a little better last year. Cooks has been drastically better every other year of their careers. Woods set a career high for TDs last year. Cooks had his lowest TD total since his rookie year when he only played ~half the games. Admittedly, Cooks has been on better offenses, but his consistency is unquestionable, whereas we have one year of this type of production from Woods to go off of.

Their floors might be close, but Cooks has a higher ceiling and a higher likelihood of approaching his ceiling than Woods. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if last year was the best we ever see out of Woods, I would be fairly surprised if it's the best we see of Cooks going forward. Also, small sample obv, but for what it's worth, when all 3 of the Rams starting WR played last year, Cooks went for 42-666-3, while Woods went for 33-483-3, so there is an argument to be made that Kupp is more likely to hurt Woods' production than Cooks' production.

Give me Cooks all day.
I'm on Team Cooks and agree it's close. Cooks is probably an end of the 3rd round guy and Woods a solid 4th-5th.

Problem is that Woods is being picked more early-mid-4th as I'm seeing it and I'm not getting him or trying to get him that high.

Cooks has more volume and TD production, should have bigger games. Woods maybe the higher floor from week to week. As a WR2 or 3, I don't really care about floor.
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08-27-2019 , 01:46 AM
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PPR league that lets you have two keepers. I pick 9th overall. Keeper #1 is Chubb in the 8th round.

Do you prefer McCaffrey for my first round pick (9 overall) or Duke Johnson at the 7th with no other RBs on the roster or Kittle in the 9th?

Pretty sure it has to be CMC but just double checking
It's CMC. His volume is special.
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08-27-2019 , 01:56 AM
Yeah, I figured. Just wanted to make sure the Duke news didn't change things with the round disparity. Thanks.
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08-27-2019 , 02:03 AM
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So you're telling me that if I didn't like Zeke there is no point at which I should take him? What if he's sitting there late in the 2nd round of a 12 team redraft? I also don't understand why I wouldn't also lock up an attractive backfield by taking Pollard if he was sitting there in like the last round? What harm is there in a little insurance in case Zeke goes full LeVeon? Were people wrong for doing the same thing with LeVeon and Conner last year?
as wheat sauce stated, getting zeke in the 2nd and pollard in the last round is massively different from what you did of gordon in the 3rd and ekeler in the 7th

gordon is only worth a 3rd round pick if he plays nearly a full season, ekeler will neither be a feature back without gordon nor be worth even a low teen pick unless gordon is out

you paid full price for both of them but it's impossible for that to work on both because ekeler in the 7th and gordon in the 3rd are mutually exlusive

drafting at upside prices and not getting any discount is forgivable, but that requires taking a stand - best case scenario here is you just forfeited either your 3rd or 7th best player on your team for no reason. worst case scenario is gordon doesn't play with a forfeited 3rd round pick and ekeler stuck in a committee with jackson not being anywhere nearly as productive as someone like Penny who was still around for 3 more rounds

take a stand and be prepared to fail or you'll never have a championship winning roster
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08-27-2019 , 02:05 AM
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We can do a buck on Gordon vs DJ
Assuming it's average yards from scrimmage per game?
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