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08-19-2019 , 07:30 PM
Rank these 30-60 ADP RBs in PPR. My list is in order of my rankings.

I assume guys like K. Johnson and D. Williams will be going in the end to 20s.

A. Jones - A. Jones has been freed. ADP too low. Williams is of no concern.
Jacobs - Gruden loves his backs, and he’s too stubborn to take a back in the first round and not use him.
D. Freeman - it’s all his if he can stay healthy. Not worried about Ito.
Carson - Penny and health are concerns, but I like his situation in Seattle.
Mack - Hines will vulture the receiving. Mack is better in standard, but the volume will be there.
Fournette - I know, I know. Huge potential IF he can stay on the field and doesn’t act like a jackass. Might go in the 20s as well, anyways.
D. Henry - meh, just hasn’t been consistent his entire career.
Coleman - has a chance to take it, but also could be a 3 man committee. So probably not taking him at his ADP. Would rather take potential value at Breida and McKinnon ADP’s.
White - NE RB
Michel - NE RB
Ingram - don’t like his potential alongside Lamar.
Montgomery/Cohen - if you could combine them, they’d be awesome as one. But separate, neither has enough value at current ADP in that offense.

Some later round guys I like in PPR

Breida/McKinnon
Ballage
Samuels
J. Jackson - although as Gordon continues to hold out as drafts get closer, I expect his ADP to rise and Ekler’s ADP to rise. I’ll be surprised if Gordon plays this year. Neither side is going to give in.
Hines

I’m also pretty down on Zeke playing, at least not for a while. And after Sat night, people are liking Pollard. But sample size. Not sure who to go for in that backfield without Zeke.

I’ll stop there, but really planning on crushing Kelce plus WRs in the first few rounds of my drafts this year. So trying to find the middle round RBs with volume potential and undervalued ADPs.
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08-19-2019 , 11:54 PM
It's only 10 teams. Decent chance there are a handful of QBs available govern a bunch of teams will only have 2.

Look at other teams, if they all do 2 QBs and just use waivers on bye weeks that dramatically changes the value of someone like Trubiskey. But if most people roster 3 Trubiskey should be grabbed much earlier, even as your QB3
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08-20-2019 , 12:07 AM
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Mark Andrews
I'm guessing he's going to pull Trey Burton out of his behind but I must admit I'm looking forward to WW's annual gazelle list.
Hope he comes through for us
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08-20-2019 , 12:31 AM
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Rank these 30-60 ADP RBs in PPR. My list is in order of my rankings.
You rankings look good. I start after A. Jones and Freeman:

Kerryon
Jacobs
Mack
C. Carson
James White
Damien Williams - I'm lower than most.
P. Lindsay
David Montgomery

D. Henry
Ingram
T. Cohen
R. Penny
L. Miller
Duke Johnson
K. Ballage - High on him producing.
Royce Freeman
Sony Michel

Not really psyched about most of this 2nd tier I have here though. I've usually been picking other positions in this area.


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Fournette - I know, I know. Huge potential IF he can stay on the field and doesn’t act like a jackass. Might go in the 20s as well, anyways. Think he does to, but not really taking him.
Ingram - don’t like his potential alongside Lamar. Hmm....seems like he's ranked fairly though
Montgomery/Cohen - if you could combine them, they’d be awesome as one. But separate, neither has enough value at current ADP in that offense. Montgomery is going way earlier than this now. I think either are ok in this spot.

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I’ll stop there, but really planning on crushing Kelce plus WRs in the first few rounds of my drafts this year. So trying to find the middle round RBs with volume potential and undervalued ADPs.
Sounds good. You could still go RBs early if you want to.
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08-20-2019 , 01:41 AM
I think you guys are undervaluing Ingram. Lamar is going to open up a ton of running lanes for him and it looks like he is going to get the bulk of the snaps at running back.
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08-20-2019 , 03:27 AM
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I think you guys are undervaluing Ingram. Lamar is going to open up a ton of running lanes for him and it looks like he is going to get the bulk of the snaps at running back.
Ya, I've got Ingram top of that 2nd tier with Lindsay behind him.

Also would only consider Henry over Sony in that remaining tier.
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08-20-2019 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
It's only 10 teams. Decent chance there are a handful of QBs available govern a bunch of teams will only have 2.

Look at other teams, if they all do 2 QBs and just use waivers on bye weeks that dramatically changes the value of someone like Trubiskey. But if most people roster 3 Trubiskey should be grabbed much earlier, even as your QB3
Last year one guy draft 4 defenses and 6 QB (yes that is 10 of his 18 roster spots), but I assume he auto-drafted the last 7 players on his team. The other 9 teams combined for an additional 23 QBs which makes 29 drafted QBs last year and 24 the year before.

I think my plan if I get 2nd pick is get 2 watson & 1 of conner/chubb & if I get 1st pick I'll go watson and when it comes back get one of chubb/conner (if available) and one of lamar/goff. I don't think I need to start QB/QB since there are 5 cheaply priced QBs to choose from - surely villain isn't going to draft 4+ QBs within his first 4 or 5 picks.

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08-20-2019 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad22
You rankings look good. I start after A. Jones and Freeman:

Kerryon
Jacobs
Mack
C. Carson
James White
Damien Williams - I'm lower than most.
P. Lindsay
David Montgomery

D. Henry
Ingram
T. Cohen
R. Penny
L. Miller
Duke Johnson
K. Ballage - High on him producing.
Royce Freeman
Sony Michel

Not really psyched about most of this 2nd tier I have here though. I've usually been picking other positions in this area.







Sounds good. You could still go RBs early if you want to.
Yup, seems like we are pretty similar.

I think Kerryon and Damien will be high teens to mid 20s ADP by the time the final drafts are finishing. My instincts say avoid Damien, especially at that ADP. He already has a hamstring issue and there is no evidence of long-term production. Andy Reid fantasy RB history says otherwise.

Guys like Montgomery, Henry, and R. Freeman have a lot more value in standard. I don’t want them in PPR.

I’m not sure how to feel about Duke and Lamar. Lamar is always really annoying in fantasy, so I tend to avoid him at this point. The Texans didn’t trade for Duke to not use him, but his role is so undefined at this point. There are other guys I’d rather take a chance on at the ADP.

Probably also avoiding Lindsay. I see a sophomore slump incoming.

I can see why people like Ingram, I’m just not a fan in PPR.

I’ll be crushing Ballage where I can. I have no confidence in Drake.

Michel will be solid, but probably better in standard like those guys I mentioned in my third paragraph. White will get all of the catches.

The main reason I’m crushing WR early versus RB is because I like the mid round TBs a lot more than the mid round WRs. But who really knows? It’ll be fun to come back and read these posts once the season is over.

I’m just ready for the drafts to get here so I can start working with my teams.

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08-20-2019 , 01:43 PM
Any Best Ball experts here? I've never played before, but have been drafting a bunch of Yahoo $20's . . . I'm familiar with the current BB rankings. Question is this:

It seems to me that as general strategy, you'd want to go RB/RB (or maybe RB/TD) up front, and probably lock up 3 RB's by the 5th round or so who are going to put up a consistently high floor each week, and then load up on WR's in the mid to late rounds (along with a 4th RB) on the theory that it's more likely guys like Coutee or MV-S, while hit or miss, are going to put up a flashy number any given week as opposed to a Miller or a Guice, etc. Depending on draft position, this means passing on guys like Hopkins, Adams, Jones to pull a Bell or a Chubb . . . You can still then generally pull your first WR in the Edelman, Cooks, Woods range, and end your draft with guys like J. Washington, Crowder, D. Samuel who are capable of putting up a number any given week . . . Am I looking at this wrong? I plan on drafting a bunch more and would like to know whether my current approach is just sh*t.... The Yahoo projections indicate my teams are trash, but I tend not to put much stock in those predictions. Thanks for any thoughts.

By way of example, this happens to be the most recent of my 20 or so BB drafts thus far:

Goff
A. Brown
Diggs
A. Jeffrey
D. Johnson
D. Cook
E. Ebron
P. Lindsay
C. Carson
A.J. Green
S. Watkins
G. Tate
N. Hines
K. Cousins
J. Washington
N. Fant
T.J. Hockenson
Tre Smith
Seattle
Tenn

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08-20-2019 , 01:46 PM
How do we feel about Julio’s TD problems? He had a great second half of last season, but before that, it was pretty brutal. The catches and yards will always be there, so he will still be a PPR monster.

I’m going to be in a position to take him in the second round over guys like Odell, Reek, MT and JuJu. As much as I love Odell, I still have some concerns. The only guy I’d take over Julio is Reek, but I feel like I just have to go Julio and let the chips fall. He’s been so good for so long. Plus Dirk loves for his offense to throw the ball. Julio did pretty well in Dirk’s first stint in Atlanta from 12-14.
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08-20-2019 , 02:23 PM
at least for yahoo best ball, julio almost never makes it to the 2nd round and that's only 10 teams

I don't see much point in trying to predict TDs unless it's someone who has a long track record of getting lots of or no red zone targets
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08-20-2019 , 02:39 PM
So for those of you who own Zeke in Dynasty/Keeper leagues-- how are you coping? Meditation, yoga, increased workouts, drinking? Asking for a friend.
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08-20-2019 , 03:51 PM
where's zeke going in redrafts these days that folks are seeing? bell 2.0 on our hands
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08-20-2019 , 04:05 PM
Isn't Gordon still more of a risk?
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08-20-2019 , 04:12 PM
Zeke is still going 1.04-1.07ish from what I've seen. Gordon definitely much more of a risk.

Unsure about where I really feel great taking either. I took DJ over Zeke in my first draft a week and a half ago.

Drafting a lot of pollard either way
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08-20-2019 , 04:40 PM
I'm picking 6 and taking hopkins/adams over elliott. Just no way I can risk throwing the season away for the upside of a few picks in value. chubb seems to have been rising fast into that area, but there is just so much consistency with the top two WR.

Gordon I wouldn't even consider until like the 7th. Someone else can deal with that.
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08-20-2019 , 05:28 PM
Zeke is about to get his contract, I believe. Winning, above all else, matters the most to Jerry. Especially at his age. The holdout could last, sure. But I don’t think Jerry is as much like the other owners from a big contract standpoint. Although, he could be getting pressure from other owners.

We will see.

Who deserves the money the most? Zeke, Dak or Amari? The only reason they don’t give Zeke is contract his to save money for one of those two, imo.

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08-20-2019 , 05:29 PM
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where's zeke going in redrafts these days that folks are seeing? bell 2.0 on our hands
While not quite as big of a pedigree, Gordon is more Bell 2.0 than Zeke.
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08-20-2019 , 05:36 PM
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at least for yahoo best ball, julio almost never makes it to the 2nd round and that's only 10 teams

I don't see much point in trying to predict TDs unless it's someone who has a long track record of getting lots of or no red zone targets
Fair. A lot of variance in TD, but Julio has a pretty big sample size with only one season at 10. Everything else is single digit. Odell is a TD machine, or at least he was in NY. Reek hit 12 last year, and I think that’s a good over/under this year.

But like I said, what Julio lacks in TDs, he makes up for in yards and catches. I’d be hoping for Julio at 12, but that assumes guys like Conner and Gurley go before him, I believe. If Julio isn’t there, I’m fine with Odell or Reek. It would make my decision easier, probably. I’m not interested in MT at all.
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08-20-2019 , 05:40 PM
But yeah, I’ll definitely be taking the one remaining of CMC, Barkley and kamara at 1.03 in one of my leagues if Zeke does not have his contract by the time I draft. Which is luckily Sunday the 31st.
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08-20-2019 , 05:53 PM
I'll be in a spot to take one of Reek, Juju, or Cook. Fwiw, I'm keeping CMC and DJ, it's 10 team half ppr, 2qb/2rb/2wr/2 flex/1te. I'm leaning Reek now, but it seems so close.

I assume everyone would take Kelce over them? I think I would but doubt he makes it there.
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08-20-2019 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Zeke is about to get his contract, I believe. Winning, above all else, matters the most to Jerry. Especially at his age. The holdout could last, sure. But I don’t think Jerry is as much like the other owners from a big contract standpoint. Although, he could be getting pressure from other owners.

We will see.

Who deserves the money the most? Zeke, Dak or Amari? The only reason they don’t give Zeke is contract his to save money for one of those two, imo.
I see it totally the opposite. And the J-Smith contract today reinforces it. Imho they're going to be just fine going with Pollard, and they're going to let Zeke sit and miss game cheques as much as he wants.

Fwiw, I'm a big Cowboys fan
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08-20-2019 , 07:26 PM
Yeah I can see this dragging into the season. More like the emitt smith hold out. If the cowboys start out 0-2 I bet he gets signed immediately, if they’re 2-0, 3-0, it can drag on imo

I’m not even considering Gordon at this point, best case he gets traded mid season
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08-20-2019 , 08:09 PM
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I'll be in a spot to take one of Reek, Juju, or Cook. Fwiw, I'm keeping CMC and DJ, it's 10 team half ppr, 2qb/2rb/2wr/2 flex/1te. I'm leaning Reek now, but it seems so close.

I assume everyone would take Kelce over them? I think I would but doubt he makes it there.
Yes, Kelce then Reek. Neither Kelce or Reek were kept?
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08-20-2019 , 08:11 PM
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I see it totally the opposite. And the J-Smith contract today reinforces it. Imho they're going to be just fine going with Pollard, and they're going to let Zeke sit and miss game cheques as much as he wants.

Fwiw, I'm a big Cowboys fan
I can respect that opinion. However, the win now mode puts more pressure on Jerry than Zeke. This team is projected to win the division and be a contender. Jerry would hold harder if they weren’t even thinking playoffs. Pollard is no Zeke.

Like anything with fantasy, who knows, and we will see haha.
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