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10-30-2019 , 09:14 AM
I prefer Coleman a lot more than Sony ROS. If you can move Sony for Waller it's a snap. Coleman seems close but still think I like it with your roster.
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10-30-2019 , 09:47 AM
No one going to do Sony for Waller
Standard takes a little shine off Waller and Coleman looks to be the lead back on the best running team in football.
Given how bad TE is I probably do it but not fist pumping but it improves your starting lineup.
Sony at least has some end of season upside but hard to bank on.

I think you gotta make a move for TE before the trade deadline.
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10-30-2019 , 09:49 AM
oh missed standard not ppr. yeah that hurts for waller unfortunately
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10-30-2019 , 09:51 AM
Is the KC secondary really elite? Was clicking around in yahoo. For those who don't know, click on the team D your guy plays (in green, yellow, or red), and you'll see all the players who played it. It's unreal, almost nobody at WR has played well vs KC. Makes me a bit nervous to start Diggs despite his tear. I just hadn't heard of KC having some God-mode secondary. Good coaching?
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10-30-2019 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
how about this one in a nutshell: Zeke, Jimmy Graham, and Jimmy Garapolo for Josh Allen, Gurley, and Waller???
offered this then canceled. It seems evenish but I think the Zeke side is better as did two trade calculators I used

Gurley man, he's just not his old self evidently. Not a 100-yard game this year. He is getting decent RZ opportunities.
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10-30-2019 , 09:53 AM
yeah I would not be trading zeke right now.
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10-30-2019 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
fairly deep at RB in a standard league (zeke, dalvin c, sony m, Coleman, r freeman, and M sanders)

what do you guys think of T coleman for waller in a nutshell? I am currently rolling jimmy g at TE
Potentially great trade for both of you. Definitely big win for you, Jimmy G very little value at this point esp w Adams back soon
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10-30-2019 , 10:10 AM
I just packaged Miles Sanders and Royce Freeman for Hooper(bye this week). Jimmy G will likely get dropped after this week then. Thanks for all the feedback guys.

Any TE preferences this week? Jonnu, J Graham, OJ Howard, and Ebron seem to be the top candidates
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10-30-2019 , 10:16 AM
awesome - I like that trade a lot better.

this week: Jonnu assuming Delanie is out.
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10-30-2019 , 11:58 AM
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yeah I would not be trading zeke right now.
This.
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10-30-2019 , 12:11 PM
Here is how Jaylen Samuels went in my 3 leagues.

12 team PPR league: I had #1 waiver claim and have James Conner. I have decent depth so didn't put in claim for him. Only claims this week were for Matt Prater, Jack Doyle, and Nick Bosa (IDP). So my normal wake up in middle of night landed me both Jaylen Samuels and Derek Carr (Goff on bye). And I keep #1 waiver claim which I basically value at Alexander Mattison whenever Dalvin Cook gets hurt.

14 team .5 PPR League: Went for 50% of budget ($150 of $300).

12 team deep bench .5 PPR league: Went for 9% of budget (I wagered 8% )
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10-30-2019 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Is the KC secondary really elite? Was clicking around in yahoo. For those who don't know, click on the team D your guy plays (in green, yellow, or red), and you'll see all the players who played it. It's unreal, almost nobody at WR has played well vs KC. Makes me a bit nervous to start Diggs despite his tear. I just hadn't heard of KC having some God-mode secondary. Good coaching?
They are 26th against WR, but only 10th against QB, 12th against TE and 4th against RBs. I don't think it's as much that the secondary is really elite but more so that they are terrible against backs and TEs. So that's where they are getting attacked.

I skimmed the box scores, and a lot of the receiving has been going to TEs and RBs.

Things of note:

Jags only rushed for 81 yards in game 1. Jags receivers crushed.

The Raiders rushed for 129 yards in game 2. The TEs had quite a bit of the receiving work.

Baltimore rushed for 203 yards in game 3. Lamar did go 22/43 with 267 yards and 0 TD. But not like that WR group is super strong. Hollywood did play that game but was only 2/9 for 49 yards.

Detroit rushed for 186 yards in game 4. Jones and Golladay did combine for 8 catches on 14 targets, 144 and 2 TDs.

Colts rushed for 180 yards. Brissett did not have a good game. This was a weird game, but they definitely relied on the run. 45 rushes total.

Texans rushed for 192 yards. Watson was decent and had a mix of throws to the TEs, receivers, and backs.

Broncos only rushed for 71 yards, but they also lost 30-6. LolFlacco is all that needs to be said, but receivers did have 156 of 213 yards with most going to Sutton and Sanders.

Packers rushed for 118 yards. Jones had 159 yards receiving of the 305 total.

I would happily start Diggs, but yeah, Minn will probably be attacking with the backs above all else.
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10-30-2019 , 12:59 PM
KC is marginally above league average in stopping the pass and reduce WR fantasy output by about 10% while giving up about 10% more production to TEs

all of that enough to be wiped to neutral via sample size
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10-30-2019 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by g-bebe
Just flipped MG3 for DJ in standard 12 teamer. I'm 3-5 so it's a risk to take on DJ's uncertainty when I need to win, but going for it.
Moved Hilton for Mixon in this same league. Hoping change from Dalton and Green back next week possibly will mix things up.
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10-30-2019 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
They are 26th against WR, but only 10th against QB, 12th against TE and 4th against RBs. I don't think it's as much that the secondary is really elite but more so that they are terrible against backs and TEs. So that's where they are getting attacked.

I skimmed the box scores, and a lot of the receiving has been going to TEs and RBs.

Things of note:

Jags only rushed for 81 yards in game 1. Jags receivers crushed.

The Raiders rushed for 129 yards in game 2. The TEs had quite a bit of the receiving work.

Baltimore rushed for 203 yards in game 3. Lamar did go 22/43 with 267 yards and 0 TD. But not like that WR group is super strong. Hollywood did play that game but was only 2/9 for 49 yards.

Detroit rushed for 186 yards in game 4. Jones and Golladay did combine for 8 catches on 14 targets, 144 and 2 TDs.

Colts rushed for 180 yards. Brissett did not have a good game. This was a weird game, but they definitely relied on the run. 45 rushes total.

Texans rushed for 192 yards. Watson was decent and had a mix of throws to the TEs, receivers, and backs.

Broncos only rushed for 71 yards, but they also lost 30-6. LolFlacco is all that needs to be said, but receivers did have 156 of 213 yards with most going to Sutton and Sanders.

Packers rushed for 118 yards. Jones had 159 yards receiving of the 305 total.

I would happily start Diggs, but yeah, Minn will probably be attacking with the backs above all else.
Awesome, thanks for that. But for sure use the feature in yahoo I told you about. It's one click to see exactly what the WR's did vs the D. Simply load a WR for that week vs the D in question, click on the coloured D. You'll see all the game logs for that position, vs that D. It's probably the best tool in yahoo frankly.

Reason I ask is it's a must win and it's Diggs vs KC or Gallup vs Giants. The Cowboys absolutely torched the Giants secondary, as do most. So think it's not that tough a choice, regardless of what all the "experts" will say this week. I didn't trust myself on the Jonnu decision last week. Gonna trust myself here.
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10-30-2019 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Awesome, thanks for that. But for sure use the feature in yahoo I told you about. It's one click to see exactly what the WR's did vs the D. Simply load a WR for that week vs the D in question, click on the coloured D. You'll see all the game logs for that position, vs that D. It's probably the best tool in yahoo frankly.

Reason I ask is it's a must win and it's Diggs vs KC or Gallup vs Giants. The Cowboys absolutely torched the Giants secondary, as do most. So think it's not that tough a choice, regardless of what all the "experts" will say this week. I didn't trust myself on the Jonnu decision last week. Gonna trust myself here.
Oh damn, didn't even realize that existed for Yahoo. I only ever look at the phone app. I just checked it on the browser and I see what you're talking about. That's pretty awesome. I assume there is no way to do this on the phone app?

And yeah, Gallup still concerns me. His target share and catch rate has been pretty inconsistent, but the match up is good. If Thielen plays, then it's close. If Thielen doesn't play, I think you have to go Diggs.

But I can certainly respect trusting your gut.
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10-30-2019 , 02:11 PM
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Oh damn, didn't even realize that existed for Yahoo. I only ever look at the phone app. I just checked it on the browser and I see what you're talking about. That's pretty awesome. I assume there is no way to do this on the phone app?

And yeah, Gallup still concerns me. His target share and catch rate has been pretty inconsistent, but the match up is good. If Thielen plays, then it's close. If Thielen doesn't play, I think you have to go Diggs.

But I can certainly respect trusting your gut.
Ya no Thielen and it's a snap. I think it's hard to say much for Gallup since he was mostly hurt. But no real concern for targets. 7,8,14, 7 and 4, with 4 being the supreme blowout. So they tend to go to him a fair bit since Cooper gets the 1's on D. Gallup went 7/158 on the Giants last game. I think it's pretty safe to put his floor here around 5/90. I can't say the Diggs floor is as safe.

And yes, I've not found a way on the app either.
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10-30-2019 , 02:25 PM
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Ya no Thielen and it's a snap. I think it's hard to say much for Gallup since he was mostly hurt. But no real concern for targets. 7,8,14, 7 and 4, with 4 being the supreme blowout. So they tend to go to him a fair bit since Cooper gets the 1's on D. Gallup went 7/158 on the Giants last game. I think it's pretty safe to put his floor here around 5/90. I can't say the Diggs floor is as safe.

And yes, I've not found a way on the app either.
Hmmm, you just believe in Gallup more than me, but I have some bias since the only two times I played him were his last two games lol. I can certainly understand why you like him in the match up, especially with week 1 as evidence against the team.

I don't think I agree his floor is higher than Diggs, but I know there is still some hesitation on Diggs from those first few games. However, 4 out of the last 5 weeks, Diggs has been a beast.
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10-30-2019 , 02:28 PM
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Only claims this week were for Matt Prater, Jack Doyle, and Nick Bosa (IDP).
I don't do IDP leagues but why was Bosa on waivers?
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10-30-2019 , 02:50 PM
for what it's worth Diggs is top 10 and Gallup top 20 according to my model right now

it's hard to predict extra targets when someone goes down if the other guy was already a full time starter because it's a double edged sword as the remaining guys now get more defensive attention

however, in diggs case, it's absolutely a huge boost because he will actually be on the field more as a result. Diggs has only played 75% of snaps this year compared to 83% last year. When Thielen was healthy he was getting 60&-80% of snaps and now around 80% in the last two games. Dude got 63% of snaps in week 6, I don't know what Minnesota is doing...

as for IDP leagues and Bosa, without even looking at the numbers, I assure you he's very likely interchangeable with any other options available on waivers and the few guys who do have a clear advantage over the next guy on waivers, it'll neither be reliable production nor more than an extra point or so per game - ie not enough to matter - also, there's a few once per season outliers that heavily skewer their production like TDs that it's a total crapshoot week to week even if you do have that elite guy because you don't know when those outbursts will happen and most of the time it's the same standard 3 point total any other guy puts out
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10-30-2019 , 06:18 PM
I cant let Kyler literally cost me another week like the last 2. Picked up Jameis last week (and should have started him but pussied out) and just grabbed Minshew this week. Any strong leaning between Jameis and Minshew for this week? I'd prob to Minshew but the London travel scares me a bit. Not sure which way to to. Just want double digits from my QB for once. 20+ would be nice
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10-30-2019 , 06:46 PM
And week 6 was Diggs’s best game lol. I’m assuming he didn’t play the last possession, maybe last two. That game was out of reach in the fourth.
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10-30-2019 , 06:50 PM
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I cant let Kyler literally cost me another week like the last 2. Picked up Jameis last week (and should have started him but pussied out) and just grabbed Minshew this week. Any strong leaning between Jameis and Minshew for this week? I'd prob to Minshew but the London travel scares me a bit. Not sure which way to to. Just want double digits from my QB for once. 20+ would be nice
Probably Minshew. That Houston D isn’t good and they just got worse with the loss of Watt.
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10-30-2019 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
I cant let Kyler literally cost me another week like the last 2. Picked up Jameis last week (and should have started him but pussied out) and just grabbed Minshew this week. Any strong leaning between Jameis and Minshew for this week? I'd prob to Minshew but the London travel scares me a bit. Not sure which way to to. Just want double digits from my QB for once. 20+ would be nice
I'd roll with Jameis. He's going to be a turnover machine but it typically means playing from behind and Tampa likes to throw. Yeah the 10 pointer is floor is there but his ceiling is the highest of the three. I don't like playing guys in London games if I can avoid it.
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10-30-2019 , 08:54 PM
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I don't do IDP leagues but why was Bosa on waivers?
We have a pretty weak IDP league. 3 players per team, no position rules. And yes, offensive players get points for tackles on INTs/fumbles.

Last week I got Luke Kuechly as a free agent.

The top player has 95.5 points (Collins).

Already been talk to go to a more true IDP league with positional requirements, so you just don't pick up LBs (unless you are an idiot and only pick players you recognize).
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