there is a spot open in the multi sport dynasty league...if youre really looking for insane and exhausting

the season started with baseball, but im pretty sure were taking the buy in down for the team (for the new owner since the full season started). but the NFL team is solid (zeke, thielen, woods)

Hahah I briefly considered it when you originally posted about it, but decided I couldn’t give it my all with my current league obligations. It sounds fun, but definitely sounds exhausting.

It's not too bad, weekly waivers on every sport so you'd only have to check it an hour a week if you really wanted too to set lineups and put a few waiver bids in.

A dynasty startup draft is possibly the best experience fantasy football has to offer.

I really want to do a dynasty as an auction and keep it as a salary cap league. With waivers based on FAAB where you would keep the price of that player and count against the cap. So basically you could get more FAAB money by trading away or cutting players with high price tags.

I’ve wanted to do this for a few years, but I think I would need to lose one of my current leagues before I could get it going, just based on the work it would be.

FYI: I run a keeper league where we keep players based off of the higher of the previous year's draft price or FAAB winning bid on ESPN.

ESPN revamped their site and now I can't find out how much each player went for on FAAB. You used to be able to click on a player and click the transaction when looking at the previous year. Probably going to shut down the league if ESPN doesn't fix it.

In a 12 team .5PPR league where you keep 11 of the 18 man roster for free what would be your general approach to an auction draft be with the following team? Playoff teams start the draft w/ $500 & the 6 non-playoff teams start w/ $500 + $450 split between them (between $110 & $40 extra).

start: 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2flex

Keeping 11 of the following (bolded is who I likely keep):
godgers
Saquon, Le'Veon, Conner, Cohen, Ito Smith, Alex Collins, Dixon
Amari, Brandin Cooks, Hilton, Watkins, Edelman, D Thomas, Taylor Gabriel, DJ Chark, Equanimeous St. Brown,
hooper, gronk

Last year I spent ~98% of my budgets on saquon and rounded the draft out w/ ebron, geronimo allison, moncrief, AP & tyrell williams. This year I'll start w/ $500.

Besides brees ($49 draft price), robert woods (141) & allen hurns (121) no non-rookie went for over $24 and w/ 132 players kept that seems about right. Anyways with my stacked roster would you prefer to go all-in on one of the top 4 guys or be patient and try to get 2 rookies that are ranked around 12-18 in dynasty rankings now? I am leaning towards going all-in on a stud sine I have 4 RBs I am almost surely keeping along w/ Godgers and my top 4 WRs.

I think you're better off going with the quantity approach given this years rookie class.

agree

Yeah for a 12 man league that is a ridiculous lineup. I would also grab real quality depth and just outlast everyone else. What stud is out there that could really drastically improve your team?

i join up for probably the dumbest dynasty league scoring i have seen recently (maybe i'm exaggerating, you tell me) i thought you guys might get a kick out of it. friend of a friend running with with their group of buddies. i have never done a superflex dynasty league before and was looking forward to it...had 1.1 this year and drafted murray of course and got baker in the dispersal draft so i feel pretty good about it. i knew there were deepish rosters (24 bench 4IR) and it was PPR with 6 pt qb passing tds -2 ints and no te premium

qb
rb
rb
rb/wr
wr
wr
Te
rb/wr/te
rb/wr/te
superflex spot
defense

pretty standard i think, all well and good until the dispersal draft was done and we got actually logged in to the client and i look at the exact scoring settings

you get 1 pt per 20 yards thrown instead of 25
4 pt 40 yard pass td bonus
5 pt 50 yard pass td bonus
same with rushing bonuses and receiving bonuses...and now that i'm typing this i'm wondering if you actually get both IE 9 points for a 50 yard pass run or catch...lol

thats all well and good i can live with some fun bonuses for big plays but then i notice that you throw 300 yards you get 10 bonus points and if you throw 400 yards you get 30 bonus points!!! wtf

then you ALSO get 10 points for 100 yard rushing game, 100 yard receiving game, and 30 for 200 running or receiving

now 400 and 200 don't happen often but certainly 30 for 400 throwing seems..excessive...am i wrong for thinking this scoring is insane and the RB and WR studs in the league who are basically gonna get 10 extra points every game are just stupidly overvalued? they are already great players and then they get extra points on top of that? so for some context i looked at the scoring leaderboard last year

Qb- Mahomes averaged 46 ppg, rape was 2nd with 38ppg, qb15 was trubisky at 28
RB- barkley and gurley averaged about 31 ppg, then some drop off, and then a massive drop off to where like lamar miller/marlon mack/philip lindsday types averaged 16 ppg. james white had a pretty elite ppr season in most leagues being like rb8 or 9 and still only averaged 16.5
WR- hill at 27 cuz of big plays with hopkins and brown close..mid-upper WR2 guys like cooks/woods/keenan allen all averaged about 10 ppg less around 17
TE-big 3 averaged 20 ppg, TE7 had like 10 ppg


so basically this league seems stupid pointless except when you have an absolutely stud team because the studs get rewarded by such an absurd margin on top of already being great and of course one team has mahomes, luck, barkley,zeke, gurley, juju, davante adams, evan engram, edelman, aaron jones, mike williams...

just seems like a pointless league as that team is not getting beat like ever in the next like 5 years. if i would have seen that team i never would have joined the league lol. probably bad form but do you guys think i would be justified in just dropping out after this year and explaining to them i think they have a dumbass scoring system with the 10 pt game 100 yard game bonuses or am i overrreacting

I would tell them of your plan to drop out early, they might even cut you out of spite for this year and give you your money back.

If you were not warned of the incoming dumbass scoring I’d tell them now that you will play this year if they want you to but you are done after this year. They need to warm people of their very unique scoring before taking their money.

how do you draft a team without looking at the scoring lol

Any good $500 - $1K ESPN, Snake, PPR leagues open yet?

only bad ones brotha

How do we rank the top 20 in PPR re-draft? My rankings are:

Zeke
Kamara
CMC
Barkley
Adams
Odell (super high on him, only concern is a lot of mouths to feed)
Hopkins
DJ
Gurley (not sure why he is end of second round on some rankings, I guess injuries?)
Gordon
Julio
Thomas
Kelce (although, I'm targeting him with my second round pick no matter who is available)
A. Jones (super high on him)
Mixon
Bell (I have my doubts)
Conner (meh, do not want)
Chubb (main issue is Hunt coming back mid-way, not sure how to feel about Chubb)
Damien Williams (High on him on, as well, but a full season is a huge question mark)
Ertz/Kittle (A little concerned about Goedert taking more from Ertz, so I probably put Kittle slightly ahead)

Two guys I've seen in the top 20 who I don't like at all are Dalvin Cook and Smith-Schuster. I'm also not sure how to feel about AB, but I still think he is a top 10 receiver. It all depends on Gruden and Carr. I think guys like Evans and T.Y. might have better seasons.

One guy who I'm not touching is Fournette.

Have only done some preliminary research so far, but some initial thoughts about your ranks:

I would have Zeke lower (I have him 4, but I know that is lower than most, so I'm prob wrong).

With you on OBJ and Kelce and also Kittle>Ertz.

Want nothing to do with Gurley at this point (yeah due to his recurring knee issues that team was clearly lying about the seriousness of last year and so many good options at RB in first couple rounds).

Not worried about Hunt, Chubb is a beast. Nowhere near as high as you on A. Jones, but I get it. Bell and Conner are guys that I'm really not sure on one way or the other at this point. Maybe preseason will alleviate/clarify some concerns?

Damien Williams seems to be way underrated.

I'm all about Juju and to a lesser extent Dalvin though, both seem primed for big seasons to me, especially Juju. And yeah, I doubt I'll be considering taking AB as high as he'll end up going. Think TY is gonna go off too.

Everyone seems to be sooo down on Fournette that I'll prob end up with a good amount of shares and then be dissapointed and wonder why the f I ever picked him.

One thing I've noticed, but haven't dug into the ramifications of too much, is that there is a huge dropoff in WR after the top 15 imo, so missing out on getting one of those guys by going RB/TE/RB or some such combo makes your WR spot super suspect in 3 wr setups. Having someone like Lockett or Golladay as your WR1 just feels super dirty.

I’ve never done it before and I’m only in 2 redraft leagues but I’m going 0 RB in the first 3-4 rounds of my 10 team one this year. Any suggestions on how to build the RB group (it’s full PPR) Go after a balance of TD and reception guys or just best available on my rankings?


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Who do you have above Zeke? CMC, Kamara and Barkley?

I just love Zeke's workhorse mentality, and I'm a huge believer. I think the Cowboys are going to have a solid squad next year and be ahead in a lot of games. I also really like that he bumped his receptions to 77 and targets to 95 last year. I'd be happy to have any of the top 5-6 backs, but I just have Zeke slightly ahead of the others. He has also stayed pretty damn healthy in his first 3 seasons.

Kamara - This is the only guy I'd be willing to consider putting above Zeke. My main concern is how will he do as THE guy for the entire season. He crushed as the only back in the first 4 games last year, but can he stay healthy? Also, you have to think Brees will start to fall off at some point. Is this the year? And can Kamara keep up his insane TD percentage? He scored 14 touchdowns on 194 rushes last year.

CMC - Can he keep it up? I have to imagine the Panthers are going to try to take a little more of the workload off of him. I'm pretty sure he saw the highest percentage of offensive snaps of any other back in the league. Also, I still think CMC is going to get a lot of targets and catches, but I believe his stats are a bit inflated. I'm not exactly sure when Cam got injured and lost his groove, but based off of the stats and team performance, I'd say it was around game 9. His shoulder was in bad shape, so CMC was getting a lot of dump offs because that was the best throw Cam could make. He just wasn't getting it downfield. From game 9 through game 15 (CMC hardly played game 16), CMC averaged 8.1 catches on 9.3 targets per game. Game 15 was also a game with our terrible backup QBs playing, and CMC got 12 catches on 13 targets. But even if you only look at games 9 to 14, which injured Cam played all, CMC averaged 7.45 catches on 9.3 targets per game. Games 1 through 8, CMC averaged 6.75 catches on 7.25 targets per game. Game 2, he had 14 catches on 15 targets, so if we remove that game then the other games net 5 catches on 6.1 targets per game, which I think is closer to what we will see. I'm cherry picking a little bit, but I just don't think CMC quite gets to where we was last year. I still think he's a top 5 back, but this is why I can't put him at 1.

Barkley - I don't have much to say here other than Eli, no Odell, and a really bad offense. He will get a ton of touches, it's just a matter of how much he will be able to do with them. The Giants will also likely be behind a lot, which will help Barkley's catches but it'll hurt his rushes. The above reasons are why I have him behind the other 3. And honestly, DJ might have a better season thank Barkley, as well. But Barkley is fringe top 5, and definitely in the top 10.

I agree, Kittle is above Ertz. However, Ertz is still solidly the third TE even with Goedert there.

Gurley's knee is definitely a big concern, and he is a little bit more of a risk than the other guys at the top. However, he still has #1 back potential. Especially on that Rams offense and with how often he gets into the endzone. Gurley is also still only 24 years old, so hopefully the knee can get back to 100%.

Chubb is definitely a beast, and I definitely think he is better than Hunt. But I'm concerned about a committee approach, especially in an effort to keep both guys fresher. Barring a lot of injuries, the Browns will be in the playoff hunt. I don't want my second round pick to be thrust into a committee for the second half of the season/playoff run. Hunt is still a really good player, and they didn't sign him as injury depth. He will play.

I really do love A. Jones, especially with fat Mike officially gone. I'm definitely unsure on Bell/Connor, and usually my strategy in the top 3-4 rounds is that if I am unsure then I'll find a better spot. So I doubt either of these guys will be on my teams.

I think the main reason that Damien is underrated is that there is a big unknown on how many of the snaps he will get. Definitely worth the risk given how Andy Reid rides his top backs. Damien definitely showed some flashes last year.

My biggest concern about JuJu is how will he be as THE guy. The WRs behind JuJu leave a lot to be desired. I guess Moncrief is the second WR, so, yeah. JuJu is going to see a lot of double coverage and safety help over the top. Things are going to be a lot tougher without AB on the other side of the field. I just don't like him at his projected ADP.

I agree on AB, his ADP will definitely be too high. He will get taken ahead of guys like Evans, Hilton, Allen, Diggs, Thielen, etc. just based on name alone.

I like Hilton a lot, and I have him as my 6th receiver behind Thomas.

Good luck with Fournette if you take him, but I am not taking him at his ADP. He could ball out, but the dude just lacks discipline and intelligence. Foles at QB could help, though. And you'd like to think their defense will be better. Last season was a weird year for the Jags.

I'm in two re-draft leagues that are 8 man and 10 man, so I should be able to get a solid WR in round 3 if I go RB/TE in rounds 1 and 2. If Kelce is gone, then I'll probably go WR in round 2. I'm hoping to get Kelce in at least one of those leagues. Definitely a big dropoff in WR after the top 15, and I certainly don't want Lockett or Golladay as WR1. I also don't want A.J. Green, and his ADP will be too high.

And it's tough to say Woods is underrated, but I've seen him at the end of round 4, early round 5 in most rankings. I'd say he's closer to 3rd round potential, but I may be higher on him than most. I probably put Woods at around the 13th to 14th best receiver. I like him more than Cooks and Kupp, and I definitely won't be touching Kupp coming off of that ACL.

Oh, and Mahomes's ADP will no doubt be too high. I still like him as a top 5 QB, but certainly not in the third round, which is where I expect his ADP to fall. I do like Baker a lot, but I probably won't get him as I will likely stick to my QB strategy of taking a QB after round 10 or even finding guys on the waiver early on.

One other guy I didn't mention is Tyreek. I really don't know how to feel about him. When he plays, he is a top 5 guy, but he may miss 2/3rds of the fantasy regular season. It would be tough to take him and have to sit on him for that long. If he's not suspended at all, then I probably have him at the end of the first, top of the second round.

Anyways, I know that's a lot, but it's fun to start talking about fantasy now. The season is only 2 months away!

Yeah that's a lot But I'm always down to talk fantasy any time, good stuff

Like I said, I'm prob wrong about Zeke given consensus, but yeah I have those 3 over him. It's less of a case of being low on Zeke than a case of being high on the other guys (although I do believe Zeke is the least talented of the bunch). I think all of your worries about them are overblown, and almost all were supposedly worries last year as well, when they all outscored Zeke comfortably.

Yeah Kelce>Kittle>Ertz>>>>>>>any other TE is where I'm at for sure.

Gurley's knee issues aren't new, which is part of the problem, he's struggled with them for years. Also, even if he does get back to 100% (which is not something I would like gamble on being likely) I would imagine the Rams are likely to be much more conservative with his workload. Saw a tweet this morning about him answering a reporter's question about his knee: "It's good, man. It's good ... I'm just like, hey, we're going to find out in training camp, you know?" Yikes. Give me all the Henderson.

Don't think Hunt is especially good, KC system gives anyone numbers (hence my Damien Williams love, don't see who is gonna take his snaps...Carlos Hyde? Lol.) so don't see him taking much from Chubb even when he comes back, if he even does...didn't he just have another run in with the law? Banking on idiots likely remaining idiots is a pretty safe play (same reason I'm basically ignoring Hill at this point at his current cost, though that could easily backfire big time obv).

Juju is amazing. His increase in opportunity should make up for a decrease in efficiency. The "double team" narrative/worry tends to be way overestimated, iirc the guys who get doubled the most end up being doubled on only like 10% of snaps or so. Even if he is only as good as last year, then you are getting fair value at ADP, and I can't think of any example of a great WR2 dropping off a bunch (or even at all, really) after the WR1 left, all else being relatively equal.

When it gets into round 4, it gets real tough for me to pass up Fournette. Everything just seems so well set up (o-line/d/role/volume/gameplan), but yeah maybe he's just an idiot who will never put it together.

I'm more of a Cooks guy than a Woods guy, but yeah I get that for sure. Maybe I'm a sucker, but I'm more than fine with AJG in round 3, though I'm talking more about 12 teamers than 10s or lol 8s.

Lol QB's as per usual

I don't want no Gurley or Fournette because they're going around players of comparable production ranges who project to be way safer. In the first four rounds I am looking to be risk averse. So I probably won't be taking Melvin Gordon if his contract issue isn't sorted, and I won't be taking players with heavy injury concerns.

I can definitely see Gurley starting the first couple of weeks and doing well off ~18 touches a game just as I can see Fournette trucking fools in week one. But I feel injuries, time off and uncertainty are inevitable with these players as the season drags on. And Gurley's handcuff requires a very high investment, when Malcolm Brown would likely be involved to some extent should Gurley go down. And then Gurley might not go down in a clean clear way, but be moved to managed touches all the way through the season. So you get a committee by week six where everyone is producing well on a per touch basis but it's breaking down something like Gurley 12 / Henderson 10 / Brown 6. Blah, no thanks.

Fournette + Armstead (who is essentially free in the last round of most drafts) and look to sell high if he goes off the first two weeks is the way I'd go if you're absolutely compelled to draft one of these guys.

Hill appears to be cleared for a full season of play and will return to Chiefs camp.

How much does this devalue Kelce? I'd say a small tick, but not anything huge. He should probably go early 2nd now. Hill is probably a safe bet to go around the turn, top 5 WR. Mahomes keeps his QB1 overall value.

I think this helps Kelce. Just opens the field up for him more as the safety will need to bracket reek more.

Love the news on Reek. He just shot up my rankings. Probably between Hopkins and DJ. although, I might be willing to put him as the 3rd receiver right ahead of Hopkins.

This helps Kelce for sure, and I still have him where I had him before. Mid to top of the 2nd round. There will be so much room for him to operate with the safety having to help with Reek. Definitely helps Mahomes, but I still won’t be touching Pat at his expected ADP.