Yeah it's interesting from that perspective. Obviously your studs you keep and just take a zero on their byes. Also picking players up players who are suspended is fun. Like last year the guy with Zeke dropped him when the suspension finally took effect. Then he was picked up with I think 3 weeks left in the suspension. We carry 4 RBs so your RB4 is usually pretty weak anyway. The gamble didn't pay off though. The guy who picked him up finished 4th - out of the money. I fully expect Ingram to get drafted as a RB4 this year. Brady was drafted very early the year he missed the 1st 4 games.

That was never going to happen, but it would have been McKinnon (12), Ertz (7), Edelman (18), with 1.03 intact. I lucked out at the trade deadline last year getting McKinnon as a throw-in with a team that was out of it. I was trying to get a QB upgrade for the playoffs while helping him with his keepers by giving Agholor.

Well the main reason I see people having for not drafting Fournette is that he has been injured often in the past few years. I think that aspect is overrated and generally super recency bias prone (a prime example being how Keenan Allen is being treated this year vs. a year or two ago when all anyone would take about was how "injury prone" he was), so I indeed would take Fournette there personally.

If Fournette is gone (or if injury history is more of a concern for you) then I think you gotta go Barkley or Kamara. I lean Barkley personally, but I'm not gonna argue much if anyone prefers Kamara.

I would def be trying to move McKinnon as soon as possible. I don't think his value will ever be as high as it is right now. It wouldn't be the first (or even second) time that McKinnon's highest value point of the season is when his situation has been deemed to be improved drastically, but before he has had a chance to actually play a game in that situation.

appreciate all your insight WW, would love to hear the wrs you like past round 6 when u willing to share...rbs as well while u are at it

I'm I reading that right? 14 years and this is your first post? Nice! Good luck this year. I'll post something after our drafts for sure. Not sure anybody will use it or it will be good lol.

ha, had thousands of posts, but somehow 2p2 lost my handle...but ill throw out some guys i think undervalued to add something to the conversation

RB: Hyde, Mack, A Jones, Breida (seller of mckinnon)
WR: Funchess, Crowder, Lockett, John Brown
TE: Kittle

Definitely some good ones in there.......

The post round 6 WR that I'm highest on and seem to be getting everywhere is Emmanuel Sanders. Injury hurt him a lot last year and it seems like he'll be in the slot a bunch this year, where he tore it up a couple years back, and where Keenum targeted Theilen all over the place last year. Huge value where he's going in drafts imo.

Other post round 6 WRs that I'm high on: Cobb, Goodwin, Robbie Anderson, Stills, Lockett.

My late round lottery ticket WR's: John Brown, Anthony Miller, Taywan Taylor, John Ross, Michael Gallup.

Bonus super deep flyer: Tre'Quan Smith

1st Draft of the Year (Sorry about the quality; ESPN doesn't have a draft board that I know of, so I had to work some Excel magic)

12-Team PPR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2Flex, D, K, 5Bench

If you can read the draft picks, I'm curious to see who you rate: Great, Good, Average, Bad, Ugly?

I think I like Team 9's draft the best, other than the random lol kicker pick in round 13, Meredith over Lockett, and maybe a couple other small player choices. Also in hindsight the Big Ben pick looks bad since they could've had Rivers 3 rounds later, but it's hard to fault that one too much.

All the rest seemed to have more egregious mistakes than those though, like picking backup TE's and QB's super early, picking guys like Fitz and Shady in rd 2, picking 2 Browns WRs in a row, and of course picking defenses and kickers too high.

The concern over Keenan Allen's injury history was overblown because they were mostly unrelated injuries that were a result of bad luck rather than any kind of chronic issue.

Fournette, on the other hand, has had a history of lower body injuries dating back to college. Lower body injuries for running backs are of larger concern. This is especially true of a back that isn't particularly efficient and has to rely on volume to put up numbers. Given that the league in question has no bench spots I think it would be wise to avoid a player who in all likelihood will miss at least 3-4 games over the course of the year.

Thanks for the feedback, Wheat. I didn't like the RBs and WRs when I took Big Ben, and my 60 seconds we're running out. In hindsight, I should have taken Burton, then Ben, but it didn't matter, because of the run on defenses.

As for my LOL Kicker in the 13th, I hated everyone and everything an then myself. With Baldwin rostered, I stayed away from Lockett.

It's not terrible to draft Lockett if you own Baldwin. He's basically Baldwin's handcuff.

I'm not into handcuffing (especially with 5-man benches). I can't have that dead weight on my bench. I'd prefer to take a flier (John Brown, Dede Westbrook) who I can drop if it doesn't pan out when guys emerge in September like they always do.

Team 5 must've been doing shots all draft.

Such a solid start first five picks then decides to triple down on the no RB theory by drafting 5 WRs he will never start.

Either a complete noob or a mad genius that has the trade pieces to make a couple bold moves - cant decide which

Lockett is way more valuable than a pure WR handcuff. Even if Baldwin is 100%, he should see the 2nd most targets (~80?) on that offense.

I think you're right. His high variance play makes it tough to predict which weeks will be his big weeks. I think that's why I've been shying away. If he can get more than 5 targets a week (his career avg), he should improve on his yardage and TD totals.

80 targets is not enough to start him. So if he gets 80, unless it's a 16+ team league you're never starting him. However I do see a scenario where he gets over 100 tagets this year. Depends on how much Marshall has left in the tank. Lockett's healthy this year. I'm not as confident as I have been in the past with him though. Still he has been scary good at times. I'm a buyer at his price.

Let's get that content up as we head into the best time of the year. 2018 first edition of [B]THIS OR THAT [/B]yo.

PPR, who you got? Providing reasoning is good but not mandatory:

Julio or Michael Thomas?

Mixon or Howard?

Hilton or Evans?

Thielen or Diggs?

Landry or Juju?

Hogan or Allen Robinson?


More to come!

Julio - because he has to score touchdowns at some point right?

Mixon- cuz Howard can’t catch a cold

Thielen- cuz he is injured less

Landry- I think he fits Tyrods game and too many mouths to feed in Pitt before JUJu

Hogan- he always seems to be open.


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Ah, yeah I didn't factor in that you already had Baldwin, I can see why that would make you less keen on taking Lockett.

In the Ben spot, I think you're best option was Stills (or just going Burton like you said), and instead of a kicker, I would've went with Bilal Powell or Mahomes. I understand not being too interested in wasting a roster spot on a backup QB, but Ben has to be one of the QB1's that I feel most inclined to backup, esp if I can get Mahomes that late.

Also, while I don't mind Dede as a late round flyer, I don't think I could pass up Peyton Barber that late given it looks like he has locked up that job, for a while at least.

My other small dispute is that I think you could've waited one round on Sanders and still gotten him, then you could've had Lamar Miller instead of Duke. Perhaps those two guys are closer than I think though and it wasn't worth risking losing out on Sanders (who as stated previously, I love this year).

Overall, I think you did really well though, nice job. Good luck!

Not totally sure the Juju vs Landry argument holds up. Lots of mouths in Clev. The difference is Pits is going to have way more offensive snaps and redzone chances. I think it balances out.

Prob agree with a lot of your others

Michael Thomas? They’re close but Julio’s just more likely to get injured

Mixon? don’t think it’s close

Hilton luck should be back so Hilton should too

Thielen don’t think it’s close

Juju Landry does NOT fit tyrods abilities. Plus that’s not how Hues offense runs. Tyrod throws a great deep ball. Underneath not so much. But this is moot when mayfield starts 4 games in

Hogan or Allen Robinson close but i guess Robinson based on ability

Julio or Michael Thomas? Julio just too good. Yeah he has had some TD issues, but I'm still convinced variance is at least a decent part of that and he has 4 straight years with 1400+ yards. That's absurd, and way more bankable than TDs. Plus Thomas only had 5 TDs last year so it's not like he doesn't possibly have his own problems in that regard.


Mixon or Howard? The questions around Howard's role/usage in the new offense and Mixon's improved offensive line (though it couldn't have gotten much worse) tip the scales for me. Seems more clear in PPR.


Hilton or Evans? Have them back to back in my rankings, but Luck still scares me a little bit and it's an even year so maybe Evans is a lock for 12 tds


Thielen or Diggs? Don't think this one is close, though I'm def a Diggs fanboy. Theilen is really good, but he outscored Diggs by like 40 pts in PPR with like 50 more targets. I don't see that target share repeating with Cousins, and Diggs is legitimately one of the most talented WRs in the league imo. People are chasing last year a little too much on this one if they are going with Thielen. Feel free to lol at me relentlessly if Diggs gets hurt again but I have him as a top 10 wr this season.


Landry or Juju? In standard I go Juju, but PPR makes me lean Juice. Dude is a vacuum cleaner.


Hogan or Allen Robinson? I go back and forth on this one day to day, right now I have ARob ahead by a spot or two, but not too confident in it.