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09-20-2017 , 12:11 PM
I've been offered Christian McCaffrey for my javorius Allen. Non ppr. Accept?
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09-20-2017 , 12:24 PM
.5ppr qb 2rb 3wr flex te

My not making the playoffs team was offered

Martavis Bryant + CJ Anderson for my Julio

First reaction is no but I think overall it makes my team better as my RB's suck and there aren't any suckers in this league I'm going to be able to get premium value from

My team
Mariotta
Gore, Duke Johnson, Henry, Jamaal Charles, Mixon
Julio, Hopkins, Kelvin Benjamin, Kendall Wright, Cooper Kupp, Brandon Marshall, Tyler Lockett, Geronimo
Rudolph
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09-20-2017 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
As a Demarco owner, I really want to trade for Henry in PPR. Am I nuts sending Howard? I can do Howard + something for Henry as I dropped a kicker last night so a 2 for 1 suits me.

Naturally yahoo thinks I lose the trade handily, but it's a keeper league too. Henry has appeal yahoo can't/won't see. I dunno, I feel this is sneaky good. Cohen looks like he's going to take so much of Howard's lunch.
Feels like you're giving a lot, but, I might do something like what you're suggesting. Henry's "value" could really be all over the place (i.e. what you have to pay to acquire him could be vastly different depending on who owns Henry).

Where in the draft (or how much auction $$) did the owner spend to get Henry? That could give you a starting point on how much the owner values Henry before you start trade negotiations - you might not need to give up Howard to get him (alternatively if the drafter got him in round 5-6 then, yea, the price could be high - especially given the keeper format).
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09-20-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Code 3
I've been offered Christian McCaffrey for my javorius Allen. Non ppr. Accept?
I would. Olsen being out makes McCaffrey even more valuable, IMO.
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09-20-2017 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
As a Demarco owner, I really want to trade for Henry in PPR. Am I nuts sending Howard? I can do Howard + something for Henry as I dropped a kicker last night so a 2 for 1 suits me.

Naturally yahoo thinks I lose the trade handily, but it's a keeper league too. Henry has appeal yahoo can't/won't see. I dunno, I feel this is sneaky good. Cohen looks like he's going to take so much of Howard's lunch.
Ask for something + Henry for Howard, IMO. Don't undersell based on two weeks.

Personally I had a sticker on my laptop during my drafts that said: no Colts, no Bears. I accidently got stuck with Ty Hilton while bidding someone up, but other than that, I lived the rule.

So I think Henry with a banged up Demarco is worth as much or more than Howard, but I think the rest of the world is not there, so ask for more. Worst case you may be able to setttle for a 1-1 later.
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09-20-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool
Looking for advice. Standard league.

Friend is looking to trade for my Lamar Miller. Offering Terrence West or Demariyus Thomas. I'm weak at the WR position but I still don't think Thomas is worth Miller. Also even though West has more points so far, they've mainly come from a TD in each game which I don't think is sustainable. Miller's points have all comes from Yds so I think when he starts getting in the endzone, he could go off big time.

What y'all think?
I'd take DT for Miller if I needed WR help for sure. Waiting for Miller to start getting into the end zone might be a fruitless endeavor, everyone who drafted him last year is still waiting for him to pick it up in that department.

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Originally Posted by rafiki
As a Demarco owner, I really want to trade for Henry in PPR. Am I nuts sending Howard? I can do Howard + something for Henry as I dropped a kicker last night so a 2 for 1 suits me.

Naturally yahoo thinks I lose the trade handily, but it's a keeper league too. Henry has appeal yahoo can't/won't see. I dunno, I feel this is sneaky good. Cohen looks like he's going to take so much of Howard's lunch.
Selling as low as possible and buying as high as possible makes me uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean it's wrong if Howard and Murray are indeed cooked. Seems like it adds a bunch of variance, so if your team kinda sucks, then I'd embrace it. Being a keeper league helps too of course.

I agree with at least trying to get Henry and an upgrade somewhere else for Howard/whoever first though. Some people are really stubborn with draft values.

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Originally Posted by Code 3
I've been offered Christian McCaffrey for my javorius Allen. Non ppr. Accept?
Yup I take that. This thread has me wishing I picked up Buck more places so I could trade him. Woodhead is coming back for sure, right?

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Originally Posted by 5 south
.5ppr qb 2rb 3wr flex te

My not making the playoffs team was offered

Martavis Bryant + CJ Anderson for my Julio

First reaction is no but I think overall it makes my team better as my RB's suck and there aren't any suckers in this league I'm going to be able to get premium value from

My team
Mariotta
Gore, Duke Johnson, Henry, Jamaal Charles, Mixon
Julio, Hopkins, Kelvin Benjamin, Kendall Wright, Cooper Kupp, Brandon Marshall, Tyler Lockett, Geronimo
Rudolph
Even if this helps your team, I wouldn't do it. You should definitely be able to get more for Julio than a RB2 and a WR2, he is super valuable.
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09-20-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
Cook seems to be fairly involved for the raiders. Can see him putting up a consistent 4/40 type line with a random TD here and there.
As a Gronk owner Miller will be my top target with cook as my backup.
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
Feels like you're giving a lot, but, I might do something like what you're suggesting. Henry's "value" could really be all over the place (i.e. what you have to pay to acquire him could be vastly different depending on who owns Henry).

Where in the draft (or how much auction $$) did the owner spend to get Henry? That could give you a starting point on how much the owner values Henry before you start trade negotiations - you might not need to give up Howard to get him (alternatively if the drafter got him in round 5-6 then, yea, the price could be high - especially given the keeper format).
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Originally Posted by falldown
Ask for something + Henry for Howard, IMO. Don't undersell based on two weeks.

Personally I had a sticker on my laptop during my drafts that said: no Colts, no Bears. I accidently got stuck with Ty Hilton while bidding someone up, but other than that, I lived the rule.

So I think Henry with a banged up Demarco is worth as much or more than Howard, but I think the rest of the world is not there, so ask for more. Worst case you may be able to setttle for a 1-1 later.
Cool thanks you two (and Wheat also).

Henry was a 6th and I think next year is the salivating year to have him at the cost of a 6. I'll see what I can do to get a bit more.
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09-20-2017 , 01:10 PM
Ok one yahoo likes:

I give:

Howard, Larry Fitzgerald, Kearse, Eifert

I get

Kelce,Henry,Cobb


He owns Gronk, I would have AJ Green, Cobb, Hogan at WR so enough for 2 WR. We like in PPR?

Last edited by rafiki; 09-20-2017 at 01:15 PM.
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09-20-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Ok one yahoo likes:

I give:

Howard, Larry Fitzgerald, Kearse, Eifert

I get

Kelce,Henry,Cobb


He owns Gronk, I would have AJ Green, Cobb, Hogan at WR so enough for 2 WR. We like in PPR?
I like that from your side, given your desire to get Henry.
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09-20-2017 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce

Even if this helps your team, I wouldn't do it. You should definitely be able to get more for Julio than a RB2 and a WR2, he is super valuable.
I think we have to give CJ credit for being a RB1 this year though.

He also has Diggs which I could swap out for Martavis but I don't know if that is even an improvement.
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09-20-2017 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Ok one yahoo likes:

I give:

Howard, Larry Fitzgerald, Kearse, Eifert

I get

Kelce,Henry,Cobb


He owns Gronk, I would have AJ Green, Cobb, Hogan at WR so enough for 2 WR. We like in PPR?
I doubt he takes it given Howard's injury, Gronk's ding, Eifert sucking and Henry looking to possibly get his chance but it's not like it's a terrible offer or anything and can hopefully start up a discussion.
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09-20-2017 , 01:49 PM
Who are some players you all are targeting that you think your league mates are undervaluing?

Thoughts on these?/any to add to the list:
luck (if a high % of teams make playoffs)
david johnson
Watkins, michael thomas, AJG, b cooks, baldwin
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09-20-2017 , 01:54 PM
Amendola a free agent right now. Snap drop any of these for him in PPR?

Hogan
Kearse
Golladay (It's a keeper)
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09-20-2017 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Amendola a free agent right now. Snap drop any of these for him in PPR?

Hogan
Kearse
Golladay (It's a keeper)
Kearse is shaping up to be the garbage time king this year.
I guess it would have to be Hogan. Seems kind of gross to have 2 Pat WR's
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09-20-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Who are some players you all are targeting that you think your league mates are undervaluing?

Thoughts on these?/any to add to the list:
luck (if a high % of teams make playoffs)
david johnson
Watkins, michael thomas, AJG, b cooks, baldwin
Cooks could be a buy lowish but someone used a high draft pick on him so I don't think he's going to be a huge bargain.
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09-20-2017 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Who are some players you all are targeting that you think your league mates are undervaluing?

Thoughts on these?/any to add to the list:
luck (if a high % of teams make playoffs)
david johnson
Watkins, michael thomas, AJG, b cooks, baldwin
I was considering making a move for Greg Olsen in a similar situation.
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09-20-2017 , 02:31 PM
any timetable for amendola?

are we dropping decker britt or agholor for him in ppr?
(wanted to give britt one more week to see if he decides to start giving any effort in the wake of coleman's injury)
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09-20-2017 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
any timetable for amendola?

are we dropping decker britt or agholor for him in ppr?
(wanted to give britt one more week to see if he decides to start giving any effort in the wake of coleman's injury)
Practicing today, but no word yet that he's cleared the protocol
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09-20-2017 , 03:50 PM
Somebody was saying they don't like it when they make a trade offer and get no reason included with the rejection, but I just got offered Dak for my Cobb - what am I supposed to say?
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09-20-2017 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
Somebody was saying they don't like it when they make a trade offer and get no reason included with the rejection, but I just got offered Dak for my Cobb - what am I supposed to say?
Honest is one of the best policies.

If I got that offer I'd tell him that I like my current QB better than Dak as well as a few FA QBs.
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09-20-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
I think we have to give CJ credit for being a RB1 this year though.

He also has Diggs which I could swap out for Martavis but I don't know if that is even an improvement.
Meh, maybe...I think he is borderline top 12 perhaps, but I don't think the top 12 are all "RB1"'s and the next 12 are "RB2"'s, that's a pretty silly/imprecise way of looking at things imo. I certainly had him way undervalued going into the season though, that line doesn't look anywhere near as bad as I thought they were going to be.

Agree that Diggs vs. Martavis doesn't move the needle much.


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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Who are some players you all are targeting that you think your league mates are undervaluing?

Thoughts on these?/any to add to the list:
luck (if a high % of teams make playoffs)
david johnson
Watkins, michael thomas, AJG, b cooks, baldwin
Have Luck in one league where 8/12 make playoffs and still can't give him away. DJ is overrated by people if anything imo. AJG/Cooks/Baldwin all seem like good buy lows, not as sold on Watkins or Thomas.

I've been trying to get Elliot, given how bad he was last week, people not investing as high a pick on him as they would have post-injunction, and the still at least somewhat uncertainty of the looming suspension.

Mixon since he's been worthless (but so has Hill), I believe in his talent, and new o-coordinator might help him.

Pryor is just a couple drops from being what everyone thought he could be.

Same with Martellus Bennett, has a bunch of targets and some banged up WR's, just needs to make the targets count more.

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Originally Posted by rafiki
Amendola a free agent right now. Snap drop any of these for him in PPR?

Hogan
Kearse
Golladay (It's a keeper)
I'd drop Kearse for him personally.

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Originally Posted by riverboatking
any timetable for amendola?

are we dropping decker britt or agholor for him in ppr?
(wanted to give britt one more week to see if he decides to start giving any effort in the wake of coleman's injury)
No reason to roster Agholor ever imo.

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Originally Posted by businessdude
Somebody was saying they don't like it when they make a trade offer and get no reason included with the rejection, but I just got offered Dak for my Cobb - what am I supposed to say?
Depends, does Dak help you at all? If not, say "This trade doesn't help my team out at all" and counter with what you would want for Cobb.
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09-20-2017 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce

Depends, does Dak help you at all? If not, say "This trade doesn't help my team out at all" and counter with what you would want for Cobb.
I should have specified that it's a 1 QB league and Alex Smith and Wentz are FAs.
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09-20-2017 , 05:01 PM
In a 10 team auction league I drafted well and have been very active on the wire while other teams have not been. It's a league full of people hesitant to use their early waiver spots and miss out on the big one of the year, so they wait til waivers clear and try to grab people on FA whereas I just jam as many waivers as I want and typically get most of them that aren't incredibly obvious. The result is that I have a ton of RB depth and am in the process of moving pieces around to try and turn them into something better.

It's PPR and there's 2QB, 2rb, 3wr, 1Te, and a flex with deep benches.

I currently have a roster of:

QB: Ryan, Rivers, Taylor
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Demaryius Thomas, Theilen, JJ Nelson
RB: Freeman, Cohen, Powell, Riddick, Tevin Coleman, Allen, Woodhead on IR
TE: Kelce


Are any of those drops for Darkwa who is looking to get featured this week potentially in NY? The Giants OLine has been atrocious. Powell is great but the team is garbage and they are still giving Forte a lot of snaps. Riddick is now splitting with Abdullah who is running it 15+ times so far each game. Coleman is just my Freeman insurance (he also rolls the Saints twice in playoffs so seems like an ideal handcuff). Allen has been getting more work than West but that's also partly due to them killing opponents and resting West.

It feels like I should be picking up a potential starting RB, but I don't know if it's correct for me to do so. I've got some packages out for trades others are debating on which would open up some roster slots so maybe I just wait to see what happens with them. If nothing does though, not sure which is the correct add/drop.

It's one of those leagues where I feel like I've got a good edge but I want to stay on top of it.
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09-20-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
Somebody was saying they don't like it when they make a trade offer and get no reason included with the rejection, but I just got offered Dak for my Cobb - what am I supposed to say?
just counter with whoever youd do cobb for, if at all.

i dont think theres inherently anything wrong with declining without saying anything, especially if the league is randos. you dont owe anyone anything just cause they made a random offer.
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09-20-2017 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Precept2
No TL;DR. Not sorry.

I'm looking for advice for a delicate situation. I'm in our local 10-man Dad's league that's in its 2nd season. Last year went well, but we had some out of town players that were replaced with locals. 8 of us are good friends (wives and kids are friends, too) plus 2 fringe guys. The league is only $50, but we are all looking to win and avoid embarrassment.

We had a live 16-Round draft in my basement before the Mayweather-McGregor fight (then watched). Then, it too the commish 9 days (the Monday before the NFL opener) to ask for everyone's email, so he could enter the draft results into LOLYahoo. It took about 36 hours to get everyone's email addresses and enter the draft results (late Tuesday night). I check Wednesday morning and notice that he didn't make it PPR (last year was Full PPR & I stated all of last years rules to all the newcomers), and he made it with 3-Flex spots instead of 1. We all drafted teams under the assumption that it was a PPR league, but it was set for LOL Standard.

I let him know, but he's at work, and he says that he'll take care of it that night. He calls me up around 9pm on the Eve of the NFL Opener and says that Yahoo won't allow him to edit the league rules (since we are within 24 hours of the start of the season).

Since our league was supposed to be 16 players, the 2 extra flex spots leaves 2 empty bench spots. Upon noticing this situation, I emailed the league and said that we need to all do the same thing: either fill the spots or leave them empty.

I've asked the commish to make a decision, and he said, "I'll take care of it." 3 guys have filled them while 7 of us have not. I have now let the commish know about 4 times that Players X, Y, and Z have 6 bench guys.

I feel like an annoying dick, but I just want the entire league to play by the same rules. I know one solution is commish the league myself next year (and I will), but I commish 5 leagues already (3 here on 2p2, my work league, and one for my hockey team). I thought #6 would be too much, but this level of irritation isn't worth letting someone else do it.

Even though I can afford the handicap (my team scored the most points in week 1 defeating the commish), I would prefer there to be a level playing field.

What do I do?

Keep hounding the commish to make a statement?
Fill those 2 bench spots?
Ask commish to drop 2 players from those guys' teams?

What powers does the commish have on Yahoo, anyway?
We have some clarity. Our commish sent out an ultimatum saying all teams had to cut rosters down to 16 by Wednesday night or he was going to drop the excess players of his choosing.

Here here!
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