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09-03-2017 , 04:59 PM
For me the better my team is or the worse the other owners in the league are the more likely I'll draft my own rbs handcuff. If it's a tough league I take the handcuffs of other owner's rbs.
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09-03-2017 , 05:09 PM
If anyone is looking for a last minute league I have some room in a 150 dollar superflex on espn . Pm me if interested
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09-03-2017 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cs3
Ive always felt like holding your own RB handcuff is kind of lol. Not going to say outright pussy move (but close!), but hedging is not the way to win leagues imo.

At the very best, you only get a worse version or the guy you just lost. Its always made way more sense to me to hold the high talent handcuffs to other owners backs, so that you maximize upside. Dont you want the chance to own mulitple RB1's with each roster spot being alloted to a RB, rather than cap out at just 1 RB1 for 2 roster spots?

Obviously this changes a lot if rosters are super deepz but in standard sized leagues with 5-6 bench spots thats always made the most sense to me
it depends a lot on who you're talking about imo. the handcuffs to DJ/bell (kerwynn williams and james connor?) sure, but guys like derrick henry or tevin coleman are worth owning in their own right.

if youre stashing a flier on your bench, which is what youre doing for the first few weeks anyway, then theres nothing really wrong in grabbing your guys handcuff. if you did, mcfadden and hunt would already have paid off.
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09-03-2017 , 05:37 PM
I'm Team #1. Team #11 just offered me my pick of Jordy Nelson or AJ Green for Ezekiel Elliot.

Thoughts?
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  • 12-Team
  • (1)QB (2)RB (2)WR (1)TE (1)FLEX (1)K (1)DEF ~ (6)BN
  • QB stats inflated & with bonuses (+5/TD, +2/300yd, +2/400yd, +1/40yd TD, etc)
  • 0 PPR
  • Otherwise standard scoring

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09-03-2017 , 06:07 PM
MM,
I wouldn't consider any of those guys handcuffs though. Coleman, Henry, and McFadden are all possibly flex startable right off the bat. As it stands now, McFadden is a top 15 RB for 6 weeks.
Im thinking of guys who hold almost no value unless the primary back goes down via injury or gets benched at some point due to sucking.
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09-03-2017 , 06:49 PM
What is the best starting and bench spots for a friend/family league with half the people having played 1 or less years of fantasy?

1qb/1rb/2wr/1te/2flex/1k/1def/7bench?
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09-03-2017 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ASPoker8
Thoughts?

My thoughts are LOOOOOOOL I see a 6th round kicker and a bunch more 7th/8th/9th round defenses/K's
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09-03-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
What is the best starting and bench spots for a friend/family league with half the people having played 1 or less years of fantasy?

1qb/1rb/2wr/1te/2flex/1k/1def/7bench?
We ended up with hose starting spots but only 5 bench spots.
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09-03-2017 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cs3
MM,
I wouldn't consider any of those guys handcuffs though. Coleman, Henry, and McFadden are all possibly flex startable right off the bat. As it stands now, McFadden is a top 15 RB for 6 weeks.
Im thinking of guys who hold almost no value unless the primary back goes down via injury or gets benched at some point due to sucking.
fair enough, it just depends on what a handcuff is then. so youre talking stashing guys like k williams, connor, etc? i still dont necessarily see anything wrong with it if the league is competitive enough though. also depends what waiver # you have and how active the league is. in my league with my friends, i dont handcuff anyone cause no one knows what a handcuff is and im always more active on waivers than others.

you also just never know sometimes. ajayai was just a handcuff, and foster was just a handcuff at one point too. youre just stashing lotto tickets at a certain point.
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09-03-2017 , 09:18 PM
Ya that's true. Im just being a bit too nitty about the term handcuff I guess. I do def prefer to swing for the fences rather than hedge though.
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09-03-2017 , 09:30 PM
**** handcuffing. So beta. Lol
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09-03-2017 , 10:10 PM
The real alpha move is making sure you have Christine michael at all costs
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09-03-2017 , 10:26 PM
I'm not worried about handcuffing RB.

1. The RB position is the easiest to fix during the season.

2. I own the WW because i pick up players before they hit.
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09-03-2017 , 10:38 PM
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My thoughts are LOOOOOOOL I see a 6th round kicker and a bunch more 7th/8th/9th round defenses/K's
TYLER LOCKETT WENT IN THE SECOND ROUND
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09-03-2017 , 10:46 PM
Team 7 has 3 WR and 2 DEF. I love that draft so much. But yeah, Tyler Lockett 2nd rounder is the GOAT pick.

Actually Lockett team has 3 WR 2 DEF also since he drafted Cam Meredith.

Last edited by fanmail; 09-03-2017 at 10:48 PM. Reason: Lockett also has 3wr
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09-04-2017 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by xnbomb
Alright so I'm having an initial draft for a 12 team dynasty league on sunday and wanted to talk general strategy.

QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/FLEX plus IDP:1 each of DL/LB/DBs and 11 bench

We can keep as many players as we want

I'm probably not going to play for this year-I'm guessing that nobody else will alter their strategy much from a typical draft, so what I'm thinking is to just not draft any defensive players or kicker. I'm figuring that with only 1 starting defensive spot for each position, that in the future I'll just stream each of those spots. Even if every other player took 2 of each position, that's only 22 and there's going to be loads on the waiver wire. I can use those spots to add 3 rookie RBs/WR/QB

Also figuring just load up on young WRs, but that seems like a typical dynasty draft strategy.
Here's how this draft ended up playing out, I was in the 1 hole:
https://clickydraft.com/draftapp/board/95716

I'm sure some will laugh at the team I assembled, but I'm actually really really happy with how this turned out other than not getting one of the QBs I wanted. I got some excellent, young WRs, the TE I wanted, some older RBs that will help this year, and some young RBs this year that are an injury away from getting a ton of carries. This was the exact roster setup I imagined tbh. Obv Doug Martin/Julian Edelman went straight to IR and I picked up a DL/CB.

In general, I think I could have gotten some of the WRs later (ie Davis, Coleman, Williams) but I think they have too much value in those spots to pass up.

Favorite pick: Edelman. Might have been a bit early, but probably the most "guaranteed" value out of a 15th round pick you can get, even if it is in the future, and even if its only for a year or two. I'll take it.

Least favorite pick:Jonathan Williams. He was cut a couple hours before the draft and I didn't see it. Could still turn out, but I would have used the pick on Kizer who I like a lot.

Sniped on: Dalvin Cook, DeVante Parker, Cousins

Have two potential trades on the table I'd appreciate some input on:
OBJ,Williams, and my 3rd next year (I could probably pick up williams if he signs somewhere)

for

Amari Cooper, Carson Wentz, and his first round next year (I'm high on both of those two)


or

OBJ, McFadden, and Bortles

for

Parker, Cook, and Cousins
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09-04-2017 , 07:44 AM
Found out this morning that I draft 11th (out of 12) in PPR league tonight.

Any advice for first 3 rounds? Because I've done my first few mocks, and **** do I feel disgusting about

Gordon/M-Thomas
Gordon/Nelson
Nelson/M-Thomas

I mean wtf is that? If Zeke is there I'll probably always take him since I think he's gonna push his suspension by a year at this point. But he wasn't there in the mocks.
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09-04-2017 , 07:54 AM
I had the 11th in one league this year and it blows.
Zeke should be there and if he's not Jordy is most likely. I passed on Jordy because who knows why and actually took Freeman because as much as I hate rooting for him I figured he's going to get points and I just don't trust Gordon, Howard, ajaiya. Plus I think there is decent wr value in 3-5 but rb's drop off. At the turn I took cooper as a homer pick and the 3rd rd I forget offhand. Some chump though.
The 11th sucks this year but zeke should be there for you.
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09-04-2017 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Found out this morning that I draft 11th (out of 12) in PPR league tonight.

Any advice for first 3 rounds? Because I've done my first few mocks, and **** do I feel disgusting about

Gordon/M-Thomas
Gordon/Nelson
Nelson/M-Thomas

I mean wtf is that? If Zeke is there I'll probably always take him since I think he's gonna push his suspension by a year at this point. But he wasn't there in the mocks.

I literally drafted 11 last night with experienced players - not a good slot, wasn't a ton of value. I got M. Gordon, and Zeke was gone in the pick after me. MThomas should be there, but in mine he wasn't, and I went rb/rb, as I didn't care for the remaining Wrs.

I've never seen Jordy fall to 11.

As for Zeke, I personally wasn't risking it that early, just my opinion.


At the 3/4 turn - Hyde, Kelce, K. Allen, Crabtree, Ty Montgomery, Fitzgerald and Brees were there.
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09-04-2017 , 07:58 AM
And along those same lines, in PPR rank:

Alshon Jeffrey, DeAndre Hopkins, Martavis Bryant, Tyreek Hill and Devante Adams
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09-04-2017 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad22
I literally drafted 11 last night with experienced players - not a good slot, wasn't a ton of value. I got M. Gordon, and Zeke was gone in the pick after me. MThomas should be there, but in mine he wasn't, and I went rb/rb, as I didn't care for the remaining Wrs.

I've never seen Jordy fall to 11.

As for Zeke, I personally wasn't risking it that early, just my opinion.


At the 3/4 turn - Hyde, Kelce, K. Allen, Crabtree, Ty Montgomery, Fitzgerald and Brees were there.
I think with how bad the slot is I'm willing to risk it. Man the idea that the dude drafting out of the #2 spot is coming at me with Le'Veon/Gronk/Brady type starts hurts my butthole in uncountable ways.

I'm gonna draft Zeke and then just get DMC or Quiz for the first few weeks. Probably also make a conscious effort to stack all my byes as much as possible to have one bad week instead of spread out.

But the idea that one has to rely on Melvin Gordon who is bad, Nelson who is old, Michael Thomas who can sophomore slump, Demarco Murray who is always primed to be hurt again and is due to be, etc...

Man I almost can't recall the last year I hated a slot this much. In years past you could get cute with WR/WR/WR.

Also thinking I'm gonna gamble with Tyreek or Martavis a round early. Somewhere you gotta find a WR1. All I know is if you draft by the book in the 11 hole you're done. You better trade like a God.
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09-04-2017 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I'm gonna draft Zeke and then just get DMC or Quiz for the first few weeks.

Man I almost can't recall the last year I hated a slot this much. In years past you could get cute with WR/WR/WR.

All I know is if you draft by the book in the 11 hole you're done.

Your opinion with Zeke is fine, I just didn't want it. Devonta came back at 14, so that was fine with me.

Wr/wr - you're right about this, the elite ones are gone by 11.

Drafting by the book - Nah, theres tons of different routes to go. I was just saying that I didn't get any crazy values, or have amazing players drop to the slots I was in who shouldn't have been there, in a non-newbie draft. But plenty of different options to choose from and directions to go in.
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09-04-2017 , 08:24 AM
With my 11th pick I was seriously considering going gronk them Rodgers with the logic being that I have the chance to have the number 1 player at 2 positions. Kind of a hail Mary but pussed out.
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09-04-2017 , 08:32 AM
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With my 11th pick I was seriously considering going gronk them Rodgers with the logic being that I have the chance to have the number 1 player at 2 positions. Kind of a hail Mary but pussed out.
Yeah it's an interesting idea. But you can get Ryan a bit later and really what separated him and Godgers last year? 30 pts? I think Ryan is pretty comfortable in that offence. Gronk on the turn is something to think about.
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09-04-2017 , 10:46 AM
why aren't auction drafts snake format for nominating?

not a huge deal, but seems like it should be.
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