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For your weekend's enjoyment, I present "THIS OR THAT". When you reply quote my list and just bold the one you'd take.

Rafiki's First Edition of THIS OR THAT ---- PPR

Jordan Howard or Fournette ?

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I'll post my choices before part 2 after this weekend's games. Have a great weekend all!

Your Results:

Jordan Howard 100% or Fournette ?

McCaffrey or Lynch 63% ?

Montgomery 75% or Mixon ?

Doug Martin or CJ Anderson TIED ?

Fitzgerald or Pryor 63%?

Cooks or Baldwin TIED ?

Tyreek Hill 88% or Martavis Bryant ?

Keenan Allen or Allen Robinson 63% ?

Tyrell Williams or Devante Parker 88% ?

I'm against the majority with Tyreek vs Martavis. I like Bryant. Talking 6"4 220 who runs a 4.3 and he's never had much of a run with Ben. Now with Heath Miller out of there, Martavis has so many targets than his last NFL season. The 6 TD's he'll score more than Tyreek make the difference.

I take Baldwin over Cooks comfortably. I'd rather the dude who is going to see more targets. So many mouths in NE.

And lastly I go against the grain taking McCaffrey over Lynch in PPR. I will bet on the old getting injured and missing 2-3 games. McCaffrey should be top 6 among RB's in receptions.

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08-21-2017 , 08:46 PM

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Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas?

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi?

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey?

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook?

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall?

Luck or Newton ?

Eifert or Rudolph?

Maclin or Moncrief?

Cousins or Mariota?

Winston or Dak Prescott?

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08-21-2017 , 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? Gimme the guy with Drew Brees.

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi? Ultra close to me, just where I have them ranked for now.

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey? Same thing, although its more that Wentz will progress vs. I have no idea how HOU qbs will play.

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? Clear role to start, most likely better than L. Murray. Mixon rumors are that Hill and Gio will have clear usage.

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall? I'm a Giants fan, and I don't want any other pass catchers besides Odell. Gut feeling that between Marshall/Shepherd/Engram variance is big.

Luck or Newton ? Want no part of Cam, but obv. need Luck to get back on the field

Eifert or Rudolph? I'll take the injury risk player, not sure if Rudolph gains continue.

Maclin or Moncrief? Just my current rankings, no real opinion here.

Cousins or Mariota? I really like both players though!

Winston or Dak Prescott? I'm with most, that I think that Dak goes through some kind of regression, even if small. Winston on the rise.

Good stuff Rafiki!

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08-21-2017 , 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? easy decision imo

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi? another easy one

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey? hate both at their ADP (as well as most 3rd round picks), but I pick Nuk for the safer floor here

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? I like his upside more. Someone earlier said he doesn't see the case for him having pass-catching upside, but I disagree.

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall?

Luck or Newton ? ugh

Eifert or Rudolph?

Maclin or Moncrief?

Cousins or Mariota?

Winston or Dak Prescott? close imo, but I think Jameis gets the nod

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08-21-2017 , 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaddy

So I got into a league that allows pre-draft trades and ended up with the 8th pick. I value DJ highly so thought I'd take a stab at the top spot. I started with 8 and 32 for 1 and 73, which is even value on the fbguys pick value calculator, but figured I would have to overpay for 1 and was willing to do so. She countered with 17 and 32 for her 1 and 72. Uh, I accepted. I should play with women more often?

According to ESPN ADP: You traded Ajayi and I. Crowell for D. Johnson and Brandon Marshall.

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08-21-2017 , 09:30 PM

#381

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One spot left in a 150 dollar 2qb auction on espn if anyone wants it

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08-21-2017 , 10:08 PM

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Biggest question i have every draft IS WR Baldwin OR Hilton both NON ppr league and standard league?
please help

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08-21-2017 , 10:28 PM

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Same foot that bothered Fournette at LSU is bothering him now. Gonna be fun on draft day!

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08-21-2017 , 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? No Cooks and Dez has a tough schedule

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi? Still not buying into Rams offense at all

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey? Going with the talent and no injury history

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? Looks good so far and Murray blows

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall? May change if OBJ has more than a sprain

Luck or Newton ? Have them pretty equal but prefer Luck with 6 point passing TDs

Eifert or Rudolph? More red zone targets than anyone who wasn't Jordy and most targeted TE last season

Maclin or Moncrief? Meh, no strong opinion

Cousins or Mariota? More passing opportunities

Winston or Dak Prescott? Not a Dak believer

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08-21-2017 , 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas?

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi?

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey?

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook?

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall?

Luck or Newton ?

Eifert or Rudolph?

Maclin or Moncrief?

Cousins or Mariota?

Winston or Dak Prescott?

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08-21-2017 , 10:47 PM

#386

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas?

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi?

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey?

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook?

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall?

Luck or Newton? Really depends on how good the replacement level is at QB. I expect Cam to score more points, but less ppg.

Eifert or Rudolph?

Maclin or Moncrief?

Cousins or Mariota?

Winston or Dak Prescott?

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08-21-2017 , 11:18 PM

#387

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas?

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi?

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey?

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook?

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall?

Luck or Newton ?

Eifert or Rudolph?

Maclin or Moncrief?

Cousins or Mariota?

Winston or Dak Prescott?

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08-21-2017 , 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? Easy for me. Not a big Thomas fan......Dez and Dak are going to light it up to start the season.

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi? One offense is getting better one worse. Plus the difference in talent is big.

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey? Yuck. If Savage starts Hopkins is the play.

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? Hate Cook. Mixon buried to start season......probably wrong here becaise Cook is going to get force fed all year though......

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall? Meh.....

Luck or Newton ? Both injured but Luck is the better talent when healthy.

Eifert or Rudolph? Eifert is a stud but he can't stay on the field. Still his upside is TE1. Rudolph doesnt have that upside.

Maclin or Moncrief? Moncrief sucks ass.

Cousins or Mariota? Mariota could be a top 3 QB this year easy. Everything id lined up perfectly.

Winston or Dak Prescott?

EE suspension is going to force Dallas to lean on Dak and Dez. Hot start for those two and barring injury it should be good all year.

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08-22-2017 , 12:44 AM

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Wait, so you now have the 1 and 8?

LOL

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08-22-2017 , 01:27 AM

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Wait, so you now have the 1 and 8?

LOL

Yes, then I can have dinner and come back for 41.

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08-22-2017 , 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas?

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi?

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey?

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook?

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall?

Luck or Newton ?

Eifert or Rudolph?

Maclin or Moncrief?

Cousins or Mariota?

Winston or Dak Prescott?

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08-22-2017 , 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? Skinny usage trees ftw. Plus Dez is just a beast.

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi? More interesting question is these guys vs Elliot imo.

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey? Think DHop is fine value in the 3rd round this year.

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? PPR pushes it further in Cook's direction, and despite his disappointing measurables, he's always gotten it done on the field.

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall? Assuming he isn't seriously hurt. Not sure how BMarsh will respond to not being the main guy, but I am sure than Benjamin is pretty sucky.

Luck or Newton ? Never drafting either of these guys unless there is a massive discount.

Eifert or Rudolph? Different tiers for me. Eifert's ceiling is waaaay higher.

Maclin or Moncrief? Maclin burned me pretty bad last year, but he's still one of my WR4 targets, lol me.

Cousins or Mariota? Close one, keep going back and forth here, Mariota's ceiling is pretty juicy.

Winston or Dak Prescott? Not close, different tiers for me.

what do

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08-22-2017 , 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by waterwolves

EE suspension is going to force Dallas to lean on Dak and Cole Beasley. Hot start for those two and barring injury it should be good all year.

imo

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08-22-2017 , 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 2outers

what are the best basic rules/roster setup for a new fantasy league?

Roster size: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, D, 6 Bench. No K.

Scoring:
No big play or big games bonuses.
Some kind of PPR.

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08-22-2017 , 06:21 AM

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would .5 or .25 ppr be enough? I just see 1 ppr too much of an advantage when meaningless catches are made

ppr is used to balance the heavy usage os rb i assume,what is the difference of using 3 wr instead?

thanks!

I prefer 0.5PPR, 4-pt Passing TDs, -1 INTs

The 3WRs is to add more options (and fun).

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08-22-2017 , 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Ok next edition of THIS OR THAT. Quote and highlight your choice in PPR and 6pt passing TD's:

Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? Younger, healthier and has the better QB

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi? I'm very rarely drafting either, but Gurley has settled nicely into that good RB2 category. Ajayi is just not good.

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey? Jefferey is guarnteed to miss some games with some sort of injury, because he always does. Savage targeted Hopkins more when he played last year and I would expect Watson to do the same.

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? Has the more defined role and the coach who will be willing to ride him. For all of Mixon's talent and the "If you bring a guy like him in you have to start him," Marvin Lewis is still an old football coach that sticks with "his guys."

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall? Sounds silly but Benjamin has one of the best schedules for WRs this year.

Luck or Newton ? Really close. Both with bad shoulders which could effect Newton's running. Luck just doesn't seem right. Probably avoiding both, but I do like Newton to have a bounce back year if he can get healthy.

Eifert or Rudolph? I almost never end up with either one, but Eifert is more consistent on a week to week basis

Maclin or Moncrief?I don't think Andy Reid lets Maclin go if he has anything left in the tank.

Cousins or Mariota? He has such a high ceiling and I think he takes another step this year. Mariota will be a top five QB after this season.

Winston or Dak Prescott? Bucs just run more plays and will throw the ball more. Winston will have more 300 yard games and they probably throw close to the same amount of TDs.

Nice job rafiki, getting a bunch of good opinions on guys

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08-22-2017 , 09:44 AM

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Dez Bryant or Michael Thomas? TD machine and no other competition. Cowboys will be playing behind a lot this season. Too many targets for Saints.

Todd Gurley or Jay Ajayi? Rams are a bounce-back team and could completely turn it around this time. Gurley has a higher ceiling than Ajayi, and teams will not be able to stack the box this time.

DeAndre Hopkins or Alshon Jeffrey? This is CLOSE. I pick this because I like Wentz > whoever texans QB is.

Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? Won't pick either in my draft. Dalvin has starting position pretty much locked; Cinn. coach has a hard on for Hill.

Kelvin Benjamin or Brandon Marshall? Not even close. Sheppard will be the WR2 for NY by middle of season. HOT TAKE

Luck or Newton ? Safer pick. I see a possibility of 2015 coming back.

Eifert or Rudolph? If Eifert is healthy, he can be top 3 TE.

Maclin or Moncrief? Better player. Probably won't draft either this year.

Cousins or Mariota? Way better metrics, way better targets, way better team. Only thing I worry about is I can see the Titans being ahead a lot this year, especially during division games- therefore running more.

Winston or Dak Prescott? Especially for dynasty.

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08-22-2017 , 09:56 AM

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THIS OR THAT - PPR, 6 PT TDS ROOKIES ONLY, REDRAFT LEAGUES

fournette or mccaffrey?

hunt or perine?

jamaal williams or burkhead?

d'angelo henderson or jonathan williams?

zay jones or kenny golladay?

cooper kupp or john ross?

**bonus**: rookie qb if you had to start them this year.

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08-22-2017 , 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by YALLIGNENT

THIS OR THAT - PPR, 6 PT TDS ROOKIES ONLY, REDRAFT LEAGUES

fournette or mccaffrey?

hunt or perine?

jamaal williams or burkhead?

d'angelo henderson or jonathan williams?

zay jones or kenny golladay?

cooper kupp or john ross? undecided

**bonus**: rookie qb if you had to start them this year.
Trubisky

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08-22-2017 , 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by YALLIGNENT

THIS OR THAT - PPR, 6 PT TDS ROOKIES ONLY, REDRAFT LEAGUES

fournette or mccaffrey?

hunt or perine?

jamaal williams or burkhead? williams in general. burkhead if you want a lottery ticket

d'angelo henderson or jonathan williams? not a rookie and henderson is better but buffalos #2 more likely to play than denvers #3

zay jones or kenny golladay? although i own golladay in dynasty

cooper kupp or john ross? kupp this year ross long term

**bonus**: rookie qb if you had to start them this year. Trubisky will be the best of the guys who see significant time this year. Mahommes long term

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