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10-19-2017 , 11:32 PM
I don't know your previous posts, but in a vacuum in PPR I don't think Jeffrey for Kamara is a snap or anything. If you're deep at RB, yeah that's fine. But in PPR Kamara's ceiling is filthy. Floor always safe.
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10-20-2017 , 08:20 AM
Amari Cooper on my bench last night obv, hard to start a guy coming off 70 reception yards in his last 5 games(19 targets last night and he dropped two that I saw(in the 1st half))


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10-20-2017 , 09:05 AM
I had to start him due to a combination of byes and my teams suck so that was a nice bink.
Facing Smith in 2 leagues kind of blows though.
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10-20-2017 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
Update on my earlier posts: I got offered Alshon Jeffery for Alvin Kamara. I'll miss Kamara and worry about Jeffrey's injury history and inconsistency, but also I feel like I might be stupid not to take this?
DLF's early October ADP has Alshon at 32 and Kamara at 53 so it's closer than I thought. Kamara's arrow has been pointing up since then.

I'd still make the trade. In dynasty it makes more sense to invest in WRs. Alshon is still 27.
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10-20-2017 , 10:01 AM
I would take the Kamara side of that deal for sure in ppr.
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10-20-2017 , 10:04 AM
When does the NFL list stat changes for the previous week? How do sites such as yahoo, espn or cbs handle them after the standings have posted?
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10-20-2017 , 10:37 AM
Thursday mornings

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10-20-2017 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Honestly if you didn't put this KC kicker on your team, you weren't paying attention.

There are 3 of them this year that should just outclass the other kickers by leaps and bounds. Don't recall that being the case in fantasy for a while. 4 pt/g gap between them and the #10-#12 kicker is no joke. For context there are 4 pts between AJ Green (WR2) and the WR12.
No idea which 3 you're talking about tbh.

Kickers are virtually all luck. I think the only remote strategy around it is trying to find a non-headcase kicker who is in a matchup where his team might not move the ball efficiently enough against defenses that are stingy enough to hold them to FGs.
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10-20-2017 , 12:02 PM
2nd half of the season I just grab a dome kicker or a good weather schedule like the afc south.
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10-20-2017 , 12:07 PM
while im of the 'find a dome/good weather kicker' mantra, andy reid kickers generally are a cut above the rest. he's great at leading offenses that march down the field and dont score TDs

signed,
not at all biter eagles fan
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10-20-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by g-bebe
No idea which 3 you're talking about tbh.

Kickers are virtually all luck. I think the only remote strategy around it is trying to find a non-headcase kicker who is in a matchup where his team might not move the ball efficiently enough against defenses that are stingy enough to hold them to FGs.
Just as targets are generally one of the best predictors of WR success (and rushing attempts for RBs), opportunity is king for kickers. I'd argue that how often a team gets near the red zone is more important than their tendency to fail to score TDs. Said somewhat differently, target kickers on good offenses.

I still wouldn't draft a kicker until final two rounds. But for the early-round kicker crowd, it's ok to draft Gostkowski (good offense) in the 13th-14th round, but not Justin Tucker (bad offense).

Also, +1 to not knowing which 3 kickers - let's hear em rafiki
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10-20-2017 , 01:40 PM
Butker, Zuerlein, Elliot I'm assuming. Succop is right there too though, as is Lutz. And Bryant and Gostkowski are obv solid fine options as well.

In other words, lol kickers. They should not be drafted at all unless you draft right before opening day.
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10-20-2017 , 01:52 PM
fwiw, i doubt rafiki was advocating to draft a K in anything but the last round. but picking up butker was probably a good play and you cant really argue that.

or better strategy, just make leagues have no kickers.
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10-20-2017 , 01:58 PM
Fantasy thread off the rails. Probably 10 kickers I wouldn't even think of swapping out unless it's a bye week. Not to mention KC kicker leg strength probably 10 yards less than beasts like Prater
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10-20-2017 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
Just as targets are generally one of the best predictors of WR success (and rushing attempts for RBs), opportunity is king for kickers. I'd argue that how often a team gets near the red zone is more important than their tendency to fail to score TDs. Said somewhat differently, target kickers on good offenses.

I still wouldn't draft a kicker until final two rounds. But for the early-round kicker crowd, it's ok to draft Gostkowski (good offense) in the 13th-14th round, but not Justin Tucker (bad offense).

Also, +1 to not knowing which 3 kickers - let's hear em rafiki
Yeah fairly put.
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10-20-2017 , 02:05 PM
Finally dropped Luck in my 12 team league, going to live and die with Deshaun Watson. Picked up Ivory.

Still holding Luck in my 14 teamer because I have Tyrod as my QB.
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10-20-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by movieman2g
fwiw, i doubt rafiki was advocating to draft a K in anything but the last round. but picking up butker was probably a good play and you cant really argue that.

or better strategy, just make leagues have no kickers.
This. I'm talking waivers.

It's a stone cold fact that Legatron is huge this year. He's always had the leg, now he's got a top 3 offence to use that leg in. I'd go so far as to try and trade for him.

Beside him you have Butker and Succup. You have to remove those weeks Mariota was hurt to assess just how valuable Succup is. When Mariota has played the Titans offence has been incredible in terms of how many trips they make inside the opponents 35. Those 3 are not lucky. They are lucky to be on the teams they are on, in the position they are in.

The Titans are 25th in red zone scoring with a top 12 scoring offence. We like that.

The Rams are 22nd in red zone scoring with a #1 scoring offence. We like that.

The chiefs are a much higher 11th in red zone scoring (which we like less), but they make up for it by being the #2 offence in the league.

It's no surprise all of them have elite running back or running back tandems who run out games and put field goals up late.


Then to me you'll have the next fe guys in behind them, Elliot/Lutz/etc...
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10-20-2017 , 02:51 PM
Happy to bet any rakiki kicker per week (nominated pre of his 3) vs my kicker (nominated pre) of the remainder.

Kickers are still relatively lol and high variance. Dont play Thursday kickers and try and use that spot for handcuffs if you can
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10-20-2017 , 04:09 PM
What's the bet, I get to pick 1 of my 3 and you get to pick 1 from the field and we bet every week? I'm in. How many weeks and how much $?
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10-20-2017 , 05:14 PM
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12 Team 2qb league. What are Aaron Rodgers owners doing? dropping him or holding and hope he returns for weeks 15 and 16?

im 3-3 and in playoff hunt
I have the same record, same format, and I dropped him... in the NFL GameDay thread, a couple guys outlined their experience with collarbones, and Stefania Bell backed them up... if surgery is needed, it's a more complicated recovery, and since it's his throwing shoulder, I bailed.
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10-21-2017 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
Update on my earlier posts: I got offered Alshon Jeffery for Alvin Kamara. I'll miss Kamara and worry about Jeffrey's injury history and inconsistency, but also I feel like I might be stupid not to take this?
I just traded Hogan to get Jeffrey. He's a beast. He's been going up vs so many good CB's and now his schedule gets easier. I have Kamara in both my leagues and think he's on the verge but Jeffrey is easily worth more if you need WR help (assuming PPR although probably same in standard). If a player is healthy at time of trade it's not worth worrying about injury history imo.
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10-21-2017 , 05:03 AM
Just to reiterate the relevant scoring and roster information for that trade:

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Nine starting spots: QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, W/T flex, W/T/R flex. We play with half-PPR and first-down scoring (0.5 passing and receiving; 1.0 rushing).
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10-21-2017 , 04:13 PM
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Like, which Brown? Antonio? John? Jaron? Neither make much sense.

Obvious no if Antonio.
Obvious yes if John/Jaron.
MY
Antonio Brown and Mark Ingram
HIS
Delanie Walker, Kareem Hunt, Kennan Allen
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10-21-2017 , 04:21 PM
need to drop somebody to pick up a QB this week in PPR:

Watson
Amari, Diggs, Hopkins, Snead, R. Matthews
Zeke, Mixon, David Johnson, Henry, Mack, McFadden
Henry

Gotta be DMC?
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10-21-2017 , 04:21 PM
No, keep Brown/Ingram.
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