RE: Villar

LOL

I mean I know he's hurt now, but he was literally one of the worst overall 2b/SS in baseball. His season is exactly what I feared and why I was so adamantly against drafting him anywhere close to his adp, or basically anywhere at all. His 1 good pro season appears to be a complete fluke

Ya I tilt shipped him Thames and Freeman for correa and regret nothing

Note: They've faced 3 straight LHP's, why McCann has started 3 straight. When they face more RHP's, I expect more, if not all, Avila, so don't get your hopes up yet. They're facing at least 4 RHP's next 4 games, and it seems like they'll do more of a platoon based on matchup.

Massive mistakes. Cant win without Kershaw!

Also only drafted colome as a closer and am currently second best in the league in saves and holds total points. Always pay up for those closers!

Roflllll

current state of affairs:

12 man with various stakes. OBP instead of avg, QS instead of wins, 2 SP 2 RP 1 P setting
standing: 3/12

C: avila
1b: votto
2b: pirela
3b: suarez
ss: story
OF: bautista, conforto, bellinger
UTIL: alonso, schelber
bench: belt, duda, bour, morrison, valencia
DL: bird

sp: nova, paxton, lamet, wood, mccullers, e. rodriguez
rp: iglesias, kimbrel, jansen, oh
DL: chapman

strategy going forward: have 3 waiver bids for tonight, no real need to consolidate for hitting given the pitching setup though probably need a couple more pitchers

YPL #1
standing: 6/12

c: avila
1b: alonso
2b: pirela
3b: shaw
ss: correa
OF: bro, judge, conforto
util: upton, mallex
bench: duda, morrison, schelber, bird
dl: freeman

sp: manaea, nova, severino, archer, wood, cueto, lamet, karns
rp: nicasio
dl: cahill

strategy: in every YPL but 1 i decided to punt closers, focus on asset accumulation and when i'm finished consolidating then pick up RPs to fortify ratios with no real emphasis on saves. looking to unload upton, conforto and schelber here

YPL #2
standing: 2/12

c: avila
1b: votto
2b: pirela
3b: sano
ss: EMPTY
OF: betts, conforto, judge
util: upton, smoak
bench: kemp, mallex, santana, bour, freeman
DL: pollock

sp: berrios, nova, manaea, pineda, e. rodriguez
rp: deveneski, melancon, colome, knebel
DL: chapman

strategy: my most loaded team, only team i drafted closers just to see how that would go. most asset heavy team, trying to trade freeman, kemp, upton and a closer and so far getting nowhere. luckily my offense has been overwhelmingly sick so even with no ss (and no 2b up til picking up pirela), i've been dominating more times than not

YPL #3
12/12

C: ramos
1b: bellinger
2b: pirela
3b: suarez
ss: villar
of: springer, santana, bro
util: thames, conforto
bench: bour, morrison, souza, mallex, haniger
DL: trout, freeman

sp: wood, carrasco, cueto, lame, manaea, karns
rp: nishek

strategy: stop being ****ed

YPL #4
4/12

C: avila
1b: rizzo
2b: dozier
3b: shaw
ss: turner
OF: kemp, santana, confoto
util: smoak, alonso
bench: morrison, villar, bour, malkex, schelber
dl: bird

sp: severino, archer, carrasco, berrios, wood, bundy
rp: nicasio, albers
dl: karns

strategy: deal rizzo, villar, dozier, kemp and morrison if possible

YPL #5
5/12

c: empty
1b: votto
2b: dozier
3b: arenado
ss: seager
OF: schelber, bro, inciarte
util: Goldschmidt, Alonso
bench: souza, haniger, bird, pirela

sp: nova, paxton, shark, berrios, guerra, straily, manaea, hill
rp: reed, deveneski
DL: karns, e. rodriguez

strategy: ship dozier inciarte and haniger

Ok, that's great, but what about the other 195 leagues?

ha

UPDATE: traded smoak, berrios and chapman for his correa and duvall

updated team:

c: avila
1b: votto
2b: pirela
3b: sano
ss: correa
OF: betts, conforto, judge
util: upton, duvall
bench: kemp, mallex, santana, bour
DL: pollock, freeman

sp: nova, manaea, pineda, e. rodriguez
rp: deveneski, melancon, colome, knebel

also forgot this one:

YPL #6 (the one i tilt traded for correa)
10/12

c: avila
1b: votto
2b: dozier
3b: sano
ss: correa
OF: myers, santana, conforto
util: smoak, alonso
bench: schelber, mallex, brinson, haniger, priel
DL: bour

sp: wood, straily, severino, pineda, lamet, paxton, taillon
DL: karns

strategy: trade dozier, conforto and haniger

So does Lamet suck, or what?

7 batters reached base, 7 runs scored

Walks are largely a non factor, he's still better than a strikeout an inning, he can't give up 3 hr/9 forever. I'm holding. For all intents and purposes he's sitting at 2 great starts, 1 unlucky, 1 terrible and that terrible one happened to be in desert coors

if/when andriese goes back on the dl are you insta on faria?

Andriese out until August it sounds like. Depends on size of league, but I'd definitely be interested. His K rate in AAA was way up, so not sure how believable it is

The makeup of these teams shows the vast difference between H2H and roto. Totally different roster strategies. This many hitters would bury you in roto. You only get 162 games at each position and that is easy to do with one or two bench hitters (except C). It also makes multi-positional players much more valuable in roto so you can plug any holes that arise. Hitters that aren't in the lineup do you no good in roto when that roster spot could go to some high K per inning RP. In H2H more hitters makes more sense for the weekly battles rather than the long term result of roto.

In roto you want lots of relief pitchers even non-closers. You want the maximum amount of those 1400 innings to be as high of quality as possible. I try to keep every pitching slot full every day with an RP if I have no one starting that day. Decent RPs have stellar ratios and K's per ip. I love having decent SP/RP eligible relievers (ie Devenski, Bradley, Minor etc.) that I can plug in the SP slots when no I have no starts that day.

You can all go back to making fun of me now and my strategy thoughts but they are valid It would be great to actually discuss this stuff without being constantly trolled.

Sounds like he's starting tomorrow @TOR, good matchup to sit back and see what happens.

To be honest Ive always been a big believer that multiple bench bats make much more sense in roto than in H2H, since starting pitching depth is so much more valuable in H2H.
In most roto leagues you really dont need that many SP to hit the inning cap. Of course this also all depends on the actual cap number, whether there are weekly H2H start limits, roster size etc.

is gerrit cole at all a buy-low guy or is he just toast?

I generally agree with you on this, optimal roto strategy for me is

1 bench hitter and fill in all your P or RP/SP slots with relievers

With all of the pitching injuries this year it is a little tougher to keep up in innings. I would rather have a Kahnle type RP than a bat I only play once or twice a week.

The fact that there isn't a set in stone perfect strategy is what makes it interesting. My strategy is to only carry 4-5 hopefully quality starters and one bench bat and then fill out the roster with as many good RPs as I can. The goal is to get all of those quality RP innings in to hopefully crush ERA, whip and saves. Then later in the season once half the league has quit is to start streaming some starts as more guys emerge that no one is paying attention to since I will likely be trailing in innings and W's at that point. It has worked well for me in the past and so far this season is going swimmingly

McCullers to DL with lower back discomfort, RIP the Astros rotation

keuchel/braun/mccullers/villar all on the DL

limited bench spots in my league so basically playing with no catcher

this sucks

Some leagues don't have start limits for offensive positions, and some don't have innings pitched limits, but games started limits instead.

I view bench bats as more speculative than a part of your ongoing production. Having more than one known commodity bench bat, either weak or strong, seems like a leak to me in roto. If it's a strong bench bat, trade them or try to get them in your lineup somehow by trading someone else. If it's weak, then pick up someone speculative with upside that could potentially be worth a lot more than replacement: Wilmer Flores is a good example of such a player right now.

I also don't believe in rostering mediocre pitchers. They need to either be flawed with high k-rates, or have high upside. If not, you can do better streaming and save a roster slot.

Here's my 12 team roto lineup right now (having just traded Judge and Keuchel for Kershaw):

C Perez
1B Hosmer
2B Jose Ramirez
3B Suarez
SS empty (will pick up WW-level with new roster slot)
MI Dozier
CI Gallo
INF Merrifield
OF Springer
OF Trumbo
OF KDavis
OF Schebler
OF Duvall
UTIL Mallex
Bench Thames, Bird, Marte, Flores (all either valuable or speculative)
DL Murphy, Brad Miller

RP Jansen, Kintzler, Reed, Nicasio
SP Scherzer, Kershaw, Hill, Pineda, Berrios, Lamet
DL Bumgarner, Richards

I punted batting average but failed to really punt it, since I'm in 7th of 12 in BA. Considering "unpunting" it now.

I ultimately need to make a move for a decent shortstop, potentially packaging an elite pitcher with a flawed power OF for a good-to-elite SS and good-to-elite power/all around OF. I have a big, big lead in ERA, WHIP, and HR to play with.

Wil Myers dropped, my choices of drops for waiver claim: Desmond, Conforto (lol), Mallex Smith (need SB pretty badly), Brantley, or Lucroy (also have Realmuto). Seems like it's between Desmond and Lucroy, I guess Lucroy, but that would leave me with 7 OF since I also have Harper/KDavis, which seems like a waste...

and sounds like Francis Martes will take his spot, do not want

So I rejected Miggy + Adam Jones for Judge and I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Solid outing from Taillon on his first start back. Happy for the guy and hope he reaches his ace potential