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Yahoo projected 0-13 team. Lets show em who's boss! Yahoo projected 0-13 team. Lets show em who's boss!

10-14-2018 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
How could you have known this at the time the decision to draft was in front of you?
That's a fair question. I was talking FF with my neighbor and he knows I know my ****. I didn't know for 100% but I had a good idea. He confirmed that I was right on a few of my picks. Tyreek and Engram he was for sure taking the same round for sure.
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10-15-2018 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
I'm at risk of repeating myself, but:



I don't think you can make that case, at least not accurately. Fournette gets replaced by T.J. Yeldon on most passing downs. Give me the guy who's playing ~100% of the snaps over the guy who's playing ~2/3 of them, especially in PPR, especially when the 100% guy is, again, an elite receiver.



But none of that is a reason why he wouldn't be facing stacked boxes this year.

Again, it comes down to three things, two of which are more significant in PPR:

-Barkley is an elite receiver; Fournette is not.
-Barkley is a three-down back; Fournette is frequently replaced on passing downs by T.J. Yeldon.
-Barkley doesn't have an injury history and is an elite athlete. Fournette both has an injury history and was a poor testing athlete; while I don't have proof of this, I do have a theory that worse-testing athletes are more injury-prone because their bodies are less capable of doing what the NFL requires of them.

Looking at that draft again-- you reached for a ton of guys you liked. You can do that if you want; doing things your own way is half the fun of the game. But as others said, you probably could have gotten another top-tier player and drafted almost everyone else a round later. If you just want to roll with guys you like, do it. But you made a thread here because, I assume, you want critique of your strategy.
I like this sort of discussion, so I'll throw in what tipped the scales for me.

Barkley is playing for a bad team that will lose most of their games, will be playing from behind, and Fournette is playing for a good team that I think is playoff bound and will be in the lead more often than not.

The Giants have an elite WR and TE that I think will score a bunch of their TDs and the Jags have Fournette and not much else. Since I think the Giants will average around 2 TDs a game, and Odell and Engram are going to get some, there's not much left for Barkley.

I liked Fournette's situation better for several reasons.

Running back is 20% about talent and 80% about opportunity, IMO. A bad running back can look good with the right chances.

QB is closer to 50/50 and WR is more like 75 talent /25 opportunity.

Of course with Fournette out, the Jags are not good.
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10-16-2018 , 07:44 AM
3-3 2nd highest score this week.

5th place and 7th in scoring.

867.10 points scored. With the highest points scored in the league being 1030.46

I'm dropping Vinatieri and grabbing Marlon Mack.

I've been trying to trade Lockett for 3 weeks. No takers. There's a couple WR on the WW i like better than Lockett ROS like Kirk/Wilson/Goodwin

Engram/Zuerlein coming back with Fournette back soon......I have a shot at the scoring title.......
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10-17-2018 , 08:45 AM
Got Marlon Mack with a waiver claim. Picked up Goodwin and Indy D as a free agents. It was real close between Goodwin and Callaway this week. Projecting Mayfield goes off against TB's joke of a defense and Callaway is probably going off with him. Indy D is obvious start for obvious reason so it will probably blow up in my face.

Even after losing the last trade where I traded Conner for Jordon Howard people fear trading with me in this league. Lots of these guys ask me for FF advice and then use that in other leagues. It makes getting deals done nearly impossible.

Anyway my team is now projected for the third highest score this week. That's without Fournette my 1st round pick and I'm sitting Howard for Mack.

Starters this week are

Mahomes
Tyreek
Cooks
Goodwin
Mixon
Mack
Engram
Cohen
Zuerlein
Indy D
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10-18-2018 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by falldown
I like this sort of discussion, so I'll throw in what tipped the scales for me.

Barkley is playing for a bad team that will lose most of their games, will be playing from behind, and Fournette is playing for a good team that I think is playoff bound and will be in the lead more often than not.

The Giants have an elite WR and TE that I think will score a bunch of their TDs and the Jags have Fournette and not much else. Since I think the Giants will average around 2 TDs a game, and Odell and Engram are going to get some, there's not much left for Barkley.

I liked Fournette's situation better for several reasons.

Running back is 20% about talent and 80% about opportunity, IMO. A bad running back can look good with the right chances.

QB is closer to 50/50 and WR is more like 75 talent /25 opportunity.

Of course with Fournette out, the Jags are not good.
I think ultimately that talent wins out even over seeming opportunity, and the times I've bet on opportunity over talent, even at running back, it's almost always been a mistake. (That's how you end up reaching on "lead backs" who are out of a job by week 5.) I'd weigh it much more closer to 50/50; even when teams want to give the job to a lesser player, talent usually wins out before too long.

Like I said, I considered them close in a league I play in which gives you a point for rushing first downs, because I liked Fournette's chances to pile up a lot of those in favorable game scripts. But PPR is the exact opposite; playing from behind absolutely benefits Barkley in that case, because they'll be throwing the ball a lot and he's a great receiver. (Indeed, the bad Giants o-line, if you expected it to still be the case-- and I did-- suggests they'd not be able to get the ball downfield and would have to dump to Barkley and count on him to make plays.)

The Giants also made it clear that Barkley was their three-down back, and he has the skills to be. While the Jags may have said they wanted Fournette to be theirs, they didn't use him that way last year, which is a big piece of evidence against it being so.

Fournette also, in all honesty, was not very efficient in 2017, relying on big plays in a fashion similar to which Barkley has this year. So both of them are similar boom-bust runners. Thus, to me it's like saying guy A might get a heavier load, but when it comes to receiving, guy A is usually going to be on the bench on third downs while guy B is going to be targeted in the passing game. In standard, there's an argument to go with the guy you think has the heavy workload. In PPR, I think you have to go with the guy who's going to get the Rs.
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10-23-2018 , 07:50 AM
2nd in scoring this week. 4th in scoring for the year but less than 20 points behind 2nd. 4th place overall just 2 games behind 1st. All with terrible injury luck.

It looks like we have an Eli Manning problem that might be to much for Engram to overcome. Engram looks fantastic everytime he touches the ball but Eli only has eyes for Barkley. I need to trade for a TE.......

2nd in scoring should happen. I'll need a little luck getting to first. Just don't have enough games left.......
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10-23-2018 , 08:02 AM
Also on a side note I'm projected to score the most this upcoming week too. Without my 1st round pick. I think Yahoo is finally starting to like my team lol.

Last edited by waterwolves; 10-23-2018 at 08:32 AM.
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10-24-2018 , 08:01 PM
Traded Fournette + McDonald for Kittle. With the Eli/Engram problems, the Jags trading for Hyde, and cohen/mack/drake/mixon/howard still on my team I think it's the right move in redraft.
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10-30-2018 , 11:30 AM
5-3 currently in 3rd place. 3rd in scoring as well. I didn't hit my projected total this week though. A lot better than the 0-13 and last in scoring original projection.

Probably shouod have tried to get more for Fournette. Traded $1.50 for a $1.00......oh well. At least i should be ok at TE now with Kittle/Engram......and I have a chance Engram still pops down the stretch........


Going to drop Barner for someone obviously. Trade DL is coming up......if you need a WR in redraft you might want to grab Sutton. What if Denver trades Thomas? He could be huge down the stretch.......

Last edited by waterwolves; 10-30-2018 at 11:37 AM.
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10-30-2018 , 11:44 AM
I like the Chiefs D getting 3 PB level players back and they have been quietly getting a little better.
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10-30-2018 , 04:04 PM
Chiefs D has been opportunistic, they've have a couple darn good games recently.
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11-06-2018 , 10:20 AM
Got lucky this week and squeaked by for the win. 6-3.....with the Chiefs D being better than projected Tyreek isn't needed as much as I originally thought he would be. Going to have to downgrade him to more of a lower end WR1. Hunt should be the big winner moving forward.
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11-12-2018 , 01:30 PM
Probably did alright with Hill this week, hey?
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11-12-2018 , 02:55 PM
It's actually kinda close but I should win. I got my Kittle vs his Breida/Gould and I'm up 26.4. That Cooks TD was pretty big.

If you take out the game Cooks got hurt and put a zero up he's averaging over 18 a game in ppr this year. Pushing top 6-7ish numbers but he's a lot less volatile than in years past. I'm still waiting for a couple blow up games. It wouldn't surprise me if he ended the year top 4 in PPR.
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11-13-2018 , 12:48 AM
Whew! Just barely pulled that off. Of course both his WW RB had career days this week lolol. Anyway I won by 2.5 points. 2nd highest score of the week. I made some decent ground up on 1st and 2nd place. We're all 7-3 but I trail both in total points scored by 45 and 71.

It will be interesting to see where the projections are tomorrow. I don't think I have enough to win the scoring title. Especially with week 12 byes killing me. I have a great chance at 2nd in points though......
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11-20-2018 , 01:28 AM
8-3 and moved into second in scoring......43 points behind the league leader.....will probably fall back to 3rd or 4th after next week. Not dropping Zurlien for a kicker.....so going to have to make some tough choices to field a full team.

Cooks so close to a monster game too with that ball being underthrown deep down the left sideline.......

Tyreek #1 WR in FF is cool to see. Hopefully he can stay hot on TDs........
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11-20-2018 , 02:42 AM
Reek is 40ish clear of second place Davante Adams in 0ppr after tonight I think. Preach brother!
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11-20-2018 , 03:26 PM
With Mahomes on a bye I'm happily starting Baker Mayfield against Cincinnati. Cincy is the worst pass D in the league and its not close. Great chance Mayfield has his best game of the season.
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11-25-2018 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by waterwolves
With Mahomes on a bye I'm happily starting Baker Mayfield against Cincinnati. Cincy is the worst pass D in the league and its not close. Great chance Mayfield has his best game of the season.
Nice call
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11-25-2018 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by applesauce123
Nice call
Appreciate it brother! Hope it helped you get a win!
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11-26-2018 , 04:36 AM
No help to me, I thought it would be fun to have a Lamar Jackson week.
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12-02-2018 , 03:55 PM
popped in for the lulz. respects
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12-18-2018 , 12:24 AM
Just popped in to brag.


Projected 0-13
Actual 10-4 with the win tonight (1st round bye). Thank you Mixon!

Should be a 25-30 point fav in the finals but that probably means nothing.
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12-18-2018 , 12:25 AM
whats your team look like now? wondering what the semi-matchup was like getting by with the mahomes/hill week
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12-18-2018 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by movieman2g
whats your team look like now? wondering what the semi-matchup was like getting by with the mahomes/hill week
Mahomes
Tyreek
Cooks
Samuel
Mixon
J. Jackson (picked up 2 weeks ago)
Cohen
Kittle
Zurlien
Baltimore D

Baldwin and Mack crushed on my bench.

Scored 131.32

Other team scored 113.70
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