So this came up in draft chat. I am assuming weekly lineup changes and so are a few others. Exit thought it was daily, which is it?

I know we already decided no innings cap so I think daily line up changes will be muy mal.

1000 IP min/weekly lineup changes sounds good to me and was the consensus in the chat.

Would clearly prefer weekly lineup changes.

bleh this would've been good to know a while ago...

I seriously thought Karak said it at some point

I did a quick search through the latest rules post and the rest of the thread and couldn't find a confirmation on the innings cap or lineup changes by Karak (definitely bump it if you find something though). Like I said in the chat, I'm cool with an innings cap, but I need someone to explain to me why the lineups need to be locked in for an entire week at a time.

One point I saw made (and I could have read this wrong) was that due to the deep benches, teams would be able to stream pitchers or something along those lines. So what? There's an innings limit, right? I don't think you can truly stream if everyone has the same number of innings to work with. Can you play the match-ups to your benefit? Yes, but isn't that the point of having a deep bench? Are these guys just supposed to rot on the bench until a starter gets hurt? Seems counter-productive to me. I'd apply the same argument to the position players; you lock in the rosters, you can't platoon, etc.

Why would you guys want a weekly lineup lock? And just to clarify, I'm not talking about transactions, like drop Player A and add Player B, that's a totally separate function.

count me in for weekly lineups. daily moves suck and create issues like innings caps etc..

This is my understanding so far:

Most people don't like making daily roster moves so no one should be allowed to have that option. If you don't like it, don't do it. As far as keeping track of the innings cap, I'm pretty sure the fantasy league interface will keep track of that for you.

I have a feeling I'm going to get steamrolled on this issue, but I still haven't seen a good reason to implement a weekly roster freeze (assuming we have an innings cap, which I'm not even sure if we do or not).

edit to rewrite later when I am not at poker table

All I want is no daily lineup changes without innings caps/162 games per position caps. I don't wanna get streamed to death or Monday/Thursdayed.

I agree with this statement.

FAIRLY CERTAIN I SAID DAILY LINEUP CHANGES

WEEKLY LINEUP CHANGES IS KIND OF ANNOYING

I WANT DAILY LINEUP CHANEGS

DO THAT MANY PEOPLE WANT WEEKLY LINEUP CHANGES?
WEEKLY LINEUP CHANGES ARE NOT FUN

i feel like it should just work out where its fine to do weekly lineup changes but the people that want to be able to quirk/mess with their teams on a daily basis can have that opportunity

im not sure how that would work tho

I also want daily. It's just a nice flexibility to have sometimes, and as long as we're capped, no problem. Say I want to platoon my catchers: that's just something you do in real baseball. If it's annoying, you can set your lineup for each day a week in advance in very little time.

I prefer weekly.

I also want to address another issue. There has been some disagreement between people like Thayer who favor a soft cap or raising the cap to give capped out teams some in-season flexibility, and people like me who are strongly against it on the grounds that it would be unfair to take away an advantage from teams that have done all their bidding with the advantages of having in-season cap flexibility in mind. I think there is a compromise to be found here. Having in-season cap gives two types of advatages:
1) You can outbid capped out teams for any FA you want to acquire.
2) You can sign injury replacements if one of your startes gets injured and you don't have a healthy backup at that position on the bench, whereas a capped out team may not be able to do so.

I think the first advantage (by far the bigger one) should be preserved, but the second one can go. It really would take something away from the league if a capped out team can't even sign a scrub to replace an injured plaeyer and have a hole in their lineup. I think if we take Karak's idea of allowing team a few min salary FA add/drops without cap hits for the purposes of promoting minor leaguers, and extend it for the purposes of replacing players on the DL, that would work well. So what I propose is that each team has 5 add/drops a year that can be used any time during the season, but only when a player goes on the DL, where you would be given 400K of cap space to sign a min salary player at the same position as the injured player. Since it would be limited to 400K of free space, this would be limited to scrubs anyway, since the teams with cap-space could outbid the team on any player they feel is worth more than the max.

Example:

My team's salary is at 100M. Longoria goes on the DL. I can drop a player, and even if the cap hit leaves me with less than 400K of cap room, I would be able to bid 400K on a 3B. If a team with cap space also likes him, it can outbid me, and I then have to find someone else to bid on (someone no one would be willing to bid 500K for). Everyone gets 5 of these a year.

I think this will make the league more playable, assuage the legitimate concerns of people like Thayer, and also make it more realistic (because even the cheapest, most cash-strapped MLB teams always have enough resources to get replacement-level talent to replace injured players).

So basically it's Karak's 4 free add/drop rule but with a DL and position stipulation?

Sounds reasonable to me

yeah - same idea, but with the differences that you mentioned and also wouldn't be limited to first three weeks of the season or whatever the time limit for karak's was. we could keep them separate (the minor league promotion free add/drop, and the injury replacement add/drop) or could just combine them and let everyone have like 7 or 8 of them each season.

This goes against pretty much any standard yahoo fantasy baseball league. There are definitely weekly lineup leagues, but as Karak as responded I'm pretty sure he said daily lineup changes. I guess with our league its not so necessary b/c no one but Jokes will have the money to drop a guy and pick up another player just b/c Josh Hamilton twisted his ankle and now David Murphy is going to get a couple extra starts. But I still like daily lineup changes so if you have a guy who's a career .042 hitter vs a particular pitcher you can sit him that night and play someone else or vice versa someone on your bench is a career .465 hitter vs a particular starter so you can get him in for that one game. Scheduled starters change too much for lineups to be done a week in advance.

Why there is no max innings pitched I have no idea. And I think its really bad actually. Again this isn't such a big problem b/c really no team will have enough cap room to cycle through 50 pitchers in hopes of 30 extra Wins or anything this season. But still there should be a max innings pitched limit set, I don't think you should win pitching categories just b/c your 9 pitchers happened to be the 9 pitchers that stayed the healthiest all season. Plus real life pitchers have pitching counts and inning counts throughout the season, so should ours.

yea we need a max if we do daily. hows 1000 min 1400 max? edit: eh maybe 1500 max? i think anotherrack said that was standard

Daily lineups is going to suckkk especially for those who will be spending 2 months in the summer in Vegas grinding.

The baseball season is so long we'll probably have 4+ teams giving up by the all star break, 200 straight days of monitoring your team takes it's toll.

Weekly lineups also add an interesting strategic dynamic. We should have made it where you play 5+ teams a week and kept records like in my NBA league.

Or one team a week and say you go 6-4 in the categories then that's your record. End the season after 16 weeks and then have long playoff series with the final 4 teams.

Where were you when we were hashing out rules for 500 posts?

Next year maybe yo.

anyway, ive been keeping track of the teams in a spreadsheet w some projections so i threw up some projected league standings.

Which team do you think you are?!



edit:

for OBP/SLG/ERA/WHIP, 0 = league average.

Heh, whats up with the negative numbers? I have no idea which team is mine, Team 4?

for OBP/SLG/ERA/WHIP, 0 = league average.

you're team 7

edit:

the suspense is unnecessary:

Team 1 : Thay3r
Team 2 : Awesome Nutshot
Team 3 : Karak
Team 4: Sergz
Team 5: Exit
Team 6: Levarkin
Team 7: Pecota
Team 8: Thunder
Team 9: Fifield
Team 10: Geoff
Team 11: Another Rack
Team 12: Jokes

Bleh. Seriously undervalued on offense.

WHICH TEAM HAS TEH HIGHEST #?

LOL MY TEAM