What law are you referring to?

Your rights are determined by the T&C that you agreed to upon sign up.

There is a lot of doubt.

It took 9 years to get UIGEA to pass, and would not have made it through w/o the tragedy of 9/11/2001.

State by state opinions will lead, well before any sweeping Federal statute, imo.

what is their incentive to cancel a ton of action? seems like a big loss for them

I have no idea what happened but overlay could be saved.

Given that the US has a long history of sector-specific self-regulation, this makes a ton of sense to me.

They posted the wrong start time and didn't lock the lineups so people switched to the winner of the first fight. He was a nobody and ended up being > 60% owned. They screwed up and we suffer.

But in the past I have forgotten about a start time or was too busy and I'm not able to back out of the action I booked - why can they?

Because you agreed that they could and that you couldn't, as sucky as that is.

Your rights are determined by the T&C that you agreed to upon sign up. Read here: https://www.draftkings.com/help/terms

Yep, what would happen in Vegas if all the casinos did not stop accepting bets until a couple hours after kick-off? That doesn't happen because those are legitimate companies that have their act together, and anyone who would be foolish enough to mess up like that would rightfully be out of business overnight.

I want to love DFS but it is almost impossible to overcome the rake on an even playing field, and with all the scandals going on and favoritism towards top players it is almost impossible for the casual player. America would be be better off if this industry was outlawed tomorrow, the odds for the casual player may very well be worse than the lottery, which is saying something. It's too bad online poker was banned, at least their you had a fighting chance although less than 10% of players were winners there, that is far more than in DFS.

Can't wait to lol at DKs response to the Ethan fiasco. If it's anything like what they've done before, it's going to be a ****ing joke. Took over a week to draft a response? Unacceptable.

Obviously decent discussion going on Reddit and rg but rg is highly modded and all rg mods are just putting fires out.

Things that are unknown and uber suspicious
1. Why are all the high stakes grinders and rake guys quiet on this. Not one has said anything bad about Ethan and a large majority are friends with him and know him. I get they don't want to, but it's an industry issue. If you are Max or others and have 100k+ in action every Sunday what's 1-2k to Ethan or another employee to get those numbers?

2. Why the delay in the response? It's as if DK is doing an internal investigation (which they should) but how deep does it go?

3. I don't care that employees play on other sites.. And that's something people are mad about, but you can't have access to certain info and play on other sites

Someone made a real interesting and good point, what if all percentages were updated when people put their lineups in so its a continually moving number and live number. Yes it would eliminate some edge, but would create some more game theory

Oh and fatal error. 🙈

People listen and think Dan Back's From RG is the best but he will never bash or say a bad think about DK which really isn't fair but yolo when DK owns rg basically

Probably because the FanDuel Thursday numbers are public data.
The delay in response is why it's a problem now. Stuff like this snowballs, you have to get in there right away and "rip the band-aid off", air it out, show some blood, and then let the wounds heal. The longer you leave it, the more the wound will fester.

Again, the FD Thursday data is public info.

That's a different game, though, but I don't think it eliminates the issues of access entirely.

I get the FD data is public and I think most do as people have just entered 1$ tournies to cover all bases to write those reports. Which again, the numbers will be close..

However my issue is with why does a customer service agent which Ethan is have these numbers. There is absolutely 0 reason for him to have them. 0.
Not to mention like you said, the wormhole we now go down after waiting for the response. Who else could have the numbers. You willing to bet someone hasn't leaked those to some high stakes players? I'll take the side that someone has at some point and more than likely count my money.

I think DFS needs a 3rd party regulation or someone to moderate situations like this because the sites clearly cannot.
Investors looking at DK cannot be happy with the past week of cancelling gpp contests which is a whole other worm hole and the leak

In talking with other mid stakes grinders the most common concern is those numbers are seen by more than Ethan and more than likely given to certain players.
It's well known DK takes care of their players, especially high stakes ones. It used to be and still is a running joke about an underground vip program.
I used to mock it until I was given tickets to a Tigers suite by DK. It was awesome. But meeting a couple guys there that play full time and hearing the perks they get and random free stuff etc just always makes me wonder what else do people who pay 100k+ a week play. FWIW I have about 10k a week in play on average of not more.

I definitely remember him heavily criticizing the DK ads last year for example. I think his opinions are usually reasonably fair.

I don't see why that matters. There have to be cases where the Thursday numbers vary significantly from the Sunday numbers for key players, so being able to see the difference would be wholly unjust.

I don't like this nonsense one bit. DK should be ashamed, not for dirty dealings, but for being so incompetent. This thing is so far from pot ripper that Sarah Palin can't even see it from her house. yet that's exactly how it's playing out on twitter, and that miserable ****ing cesspool that is RG.

if anything the last page itt has made me wanna transfer over to dk and up my action lol.

FWIW, as per today's industry report from SuperLobby (full disclosure: I was involved in compiling it), yesterday was the first time this NFL season that both DK and FD posted a profit on GPPs on the same day. DK paid out $0.92 and FD paid out $0.91 in prizes for every $1 they received in entries.

Too soon to extrapolate too much, but there is certainly a suggestion that the carpetbombing approach to ads is working.

As an aside, I have been considering making a weekly industry podcast OBO SuperLobby, that covers this sort of discussion. Perhaps having a rotating cast of guests from within and outwith the industry. However, it will obviously only get the green light from the bosses if there is a demand for it. What do people think - is it something worth doing?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/05/op...ml?ref=opinion

Comments were closed.Nannies gonna nanny.And by the way the way the NYT is the bible for liberal DEMOCRATS.

FD and DK release joint response to the Ethan situation:

DK http://playbook.draftkings.com/uncat...atement-10515/

FD: https://newsroom.fanduel.com/2015/10...our-employees/

two competing companies issuing a joint response seems pretty bizarre to me. anyone else? and ofc they didnt actually address anything. i feel like this whole thing has somehow gotten even shadier.

They say everything by saying nothing at all.

Nothing to see here folks.. Moving on. Here's another promo code