10 team
PPR
All TDs 6 points


QB
Garappolo
Mahomes

RB
Fournette
Mixon
Lynch
Cohen
Mack

WR
Tyreek
Cooks
M. Goodwin
Cobb
Lockett
Gabriel

TE
Engram

K
Boswell

DEF
NO

Lowest projected scoring total of the league. 0-13 record projected.

Let's do this!


I'll update through the season my thoughts/trades.

Good luck! The Yahoo draft grader is ridiculously bad. I think the higher your grade on that thing the more you have to worry about.

I can't see how it's possible to go 0-13 when you have Mahomes and Hill?

This is going to be great. Like I'm either going to look really good here or I'm going to quit coming in here because of the troll fest. Lolol

They have

M. Goodwin projected to score 10.33
Engram-10.47
Tyreek- 14.12

Off at least 6-8 points right there.

Yahoo projections are a joke. Basically you get a good grade if you follow their rankings and a bad grade if you disagree. Unfortunately, their rankings are terrible. For example, teams with 2 kickers and 2 defenses tend to have higher grades because there's no bye week gap. But only fishes draft 2 for each of those positions.

True but Yahoo has never been this far off with my rankings. I don't look at their rankings when I do mine but they normally line up a little. This year i have vastly different opinons on players. So it will be interesting to see how wrong I am or they are in all of this.

Starting Mahomes this week against the Chargers. I don't want any part of Minnesota's D so Garoppolo is going to sit. I'll play the match ups all year here. I really wanted Goff in the draft but he got taken a few spots ahead of me. I'm all in on Mahomes this year though. Tyreek will save him and hopefully me this year.

The other decision I have is at flex. I'm rolling the dice with Cobb over Lynch. They are both playing what I consider to be "Good defenses" I was super high on Cobb before the trade/cut rumors started swirling. Since he's still there lets start him.

Engram practiced but could be a late scratch so I'll need to stay on that. This is a 10 team league so there will be something on WW. Side note Jaylen Samuels has duel positions RB/TE on Yahoo...…..omg ONETIME Pittsburgh put him at TE!

I mean your team looks pretty bad but that is why we play, right?

Absolutely. I'll be alright. Guaranteed to make playoffs.

Not gonna lie, that team looks terrible for 10 team/PPR.
Looks like instead of trying to get value on the guys you've been hyping up, instead you reached for every single one of them and bypassed better options. Now instead of being value picks, they're all guys that MUST over perform all the projections just to keep your team competitive.
What draft slot did you have?
At first I was assuming 9 or 10 bc that's the only spot that makes any sense for Fournette (unless you didn't get a 1st rd pick??)
And if you didn't get Fournette in rd2, then Tyreek is the only player who seems like a possible 2nd rounder - yet taking him at the 1/2 turn is pretty lol.
So idk, but at least 2 of your first 3 picks have to have been pretty suboptimal.

And being forced to start Cobb right out of the gate isn't great.

I had the 7th pick. Took Tyreek in the 2nd.

(7)Fournette
(14)Tyreek
(27)Mixon
(34)Engram
(47)Cooks
(54)Goodwin
(67)Lynch
(74)Garappolo
(87)Cohen
(94)Mahomes
(107)Cobb
(114)Mack
(127)Lockett
(134)Gabriel
(147NO D
(154)Boswell

I like Cobb to end the year as a top 15 WR in PPR this year.

See that team would look MUCH better if you had a Barkley/Hopkins/OBJ/Kamara, and then everyone else was pushed back one round. And I think theres a very good chance nearly all of those guys would've been there a round later.

I'm not high on OBJ (just got paid off field diva) or Hopkins (QB is a bigtime fraud imo I could be wrong though) this year. Barkley is a rookie I like but not over Fournette. Kamara was gone at 1.06 too......


Those guys were not going to be available because I talk to much. Mixon/Engram/Goodwin/Garappolo/Cohen were all one of my friends next pick when I took them.

I think you'll be surprised by this team Fournette/Tyreek/Mixon/Engram/Cooks are all top 20 players this year for me. Mahomes has #1 QB upside imo as well.

FF is a crazy game. Need to see how this team performs for a couple weeks.

Don't you find it funny that all experts seem to have similar opinions? It's almost like most just copy each other..........

Yes, but the point is that its very likely you could have landed another elite player AND almost all the guys you wanted.
For example there's just zero reason to take Engram at pick #34. He's almost a lock to be there at #47, and if he's not then somebody else made a mistake. Not buying that you would've been sniped in every single round from the the guys on both sides of you in the draft order.

I think a lot of the "experts" have similar opinions because 1) math/statistical based models are obviously going to have similar outputs and 2) they're all watching the same game film.
I agree that many of them are not actually experts and five terrible fantasy advice, but those guys aren't hard to weed out.

Id be surprised if 2 of them finish as top 20 players, and shocked if 3 or more did.

But hey I'll be be the first to eat my words if this team blows up and finishes in the top 1/4 of the league.

Nah nobody is eating any crow. Lets just see what happens. The problem is I'm probably going to kill this league's WW which might mask how bad I drafted if i in fact drafted bad.

There was one league last season where you look back at the draft and it was the worst draft ever. I got Bell with the 2nd pick, Cooks at 2.11 I guess was not awful, but then 3rd Crowell over Hunt, 4th ARob, 5th KBenj, 6th Terrance West, 7th Brandon Marshall, 8th Thomas Rawls, 9th Moncrief, 10th Jordan Matthews, 11th Andrew Luck. I mean, wow. Literally, my 3rd-11th rounds completely unplayable. I still managed to finish second in both the regular season and playoffs through my in-season moves. Your draft isn't nearly as bad as that one!

I think I drafted well. I think Yahoo is wrong. For instance they have Barkley outscoring Fournette by 50 points this year in PPR. That's ridiculously lol. A couple things are factoring into this example of horrible player valuation.

1. Rookie hysteria - Saquon is the shiny new toy.
2. Echo chamber rankings - Very few FF experts are doing their on rankings.
3. Recency Bias - Last year was historic when it comes to rookie RB production. Extremely unlikely to be repeated.

So Saquon vs Fournette. It's close but I have Fournette outscoring Saquon. Fournette is the #1 unquestioned option on the Jags and he has little competition for touches. The Jags have built this team completely around him. Saquon has serious competition with ODB and Engram. They both have mediocre/bad QBs. This particular 50 point difference in player projection is largely based on the false assumption that Fournette can't catch. When I took Fournette over Saquon it was a big knock on my draft in Yahoos opinion but Yahoo is wrong. Could Saquon outscore Fournette? Absolutely but Fournette outscoring Saquon is much more likely imo.

When yahoo said I'm an 0-13 team and going to score the least amount of points I thought it might be fun to make this thread.

Your Engram and Cooks picks were terrible. I like Engram but 4th round in a 10 team league is beyond bad (he's going in the 6-7th round in most 12 team leagues)
Cooks is going to disappear this year in L.A.

Also much better options than Lynch where you got him.

Gabriel isn't even being drafted in 12 teamers.

Engram would have been gone. So it was either grab him there or go with Graham. Its not a normal draft as far as ADP goes. There was amother drafter that tokd me he was taking Engram.


I like Cooks a lot this year. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong. I think Kupp is the odd man out in LA and Woods will lead the team in targets with Cooks leading the team in yards and TDs.

Dropped Taylor Gabriel and picked up Conner for this week. Playing the Bell owner so I might get lucky and win my 1st game.

conner could just be picked up?

not sure any draft could be too bad in a league this fishy

Yeah guy that owns Bell said he claimed him but I just picked him up. I'll be dropping him after this week I imagine. If Bell does sit out 10 games though......

Guy that owns Bell is asking about Conner. I'm going to try and package Conner+Cobb or Lockett for Adams. I'll throw in Lynch if he'll throw in Ross......

Fournette is a higher injury risk. He is pretty much guaranteed to miss some games this year. The Jags having nobody outside of Fournette is also a negative for him, not a positive. It means poor efficiency from loaded boxes and fewer scoring opportunities from the offense not being able to move the ball.

The expectations for Barkley isn't recency bias. He is incredibly talented and rookie RBs have historically fared better than rookies at other positions.

I think that you are right that if they both play 16 they are pretty close, though I would give a slight edge to Barkley, but the injury risk with Fournette makes Barkley the better pick.

I think Fournette's ankle problems are overblown. Barkley is good but a bit overrated. He's sharing touches with two established stars imo. I'm high on Engram though.