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08-30-2017 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad22
CMike was actually good last year when he played.

Who is CPat?
just reposting in hopes that WW goes off the rails again and this time takes my prop bet cause he wussed out last year
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08-30-2017 , 11:24 AM
So I'm stuck bois. Draft is this Sunday 9/3. I'm in an 12 team auction keeper league. Keep 3 players, up to 3 years.

Standard scoring (NON-PPR), 6pt throwing TDs. Starting 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 FLEX (RB,WR,TE), 1 TE, 1 DEF, 1 K.

I have kept Jameis Winston, Amari Cooper, and Michael Thomas. These keepers do not cost anything against me and everyone starts with a $200 budget. That being said, players go for alot more than they normally do (based on cheat sheets). Le'veon Bell is the best player available this year and he will be going for $120, maybe even $130.

RBs are super thin this year. Here is a list of the best RBs that are available.
Bell, Gurley, Lamar Miller, Lynch, Gore, Hyde, Jstew, Gillislee, CJ Anderson and so on from there. All rookie RBs are available too.

So TL;DR...But, idt if I should get Bell for say $120, then have to get his handcuff and only have say $50-60 left for the rest of the draft. Or, do what I was thinking and go for Gurley, Dalvin Cook, and Kareem Hunt (or whoever goes cheap). Then fill in the rest of my roster. There are ALOT of WRs available, so people will be spending on them and I have two good starters every week, so I'm not too worried about getting one or two WR3/Flex from the WR core.

Part of me wants Bell for the future too (plus I'm a Steelers fan), but part of me wants more players for the amount I'd spend on him. HELP!!
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08-30-2017 , 11:34 AM
I'd go for bell, you don't need much after that for a great team.
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08-30-2017 , 11:43 AM
if you can keep bell for $0 for 3 years, that seems like a slam dunk.

plus, with those 3 keepers, youd be able to field a good team this year too
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08-30-2017 , 11:48 AM
Yea I think I'd go up to ~$170 for him, but assume that won't be necessary
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08-30-2017 , 11:59 AM
go for bell, you are set at wr and you can get the other rb spot filled by a rookie for cheap
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08-30-2017 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce
Nah, I like Ginn this season for his price this year and I've seen a lot of people advocating for him also, just saying he's never gonna be a guy you'll keep. Taking someone with more upside is probably a better option at that point in the draft, especially given that your team as constructed doesn't seem like it will be much of a threat this year.

It's not that I dislike Fournette and CMac, just not a fan of the price you paid given their situations (Fournette's foot problems/team, lack of PPR/Jstew and Cam vulturing for CMac) and think there was probably better value available. Also while they are young, taking them in the 2nd and 3rd means they will never be great value as keepers in this set up even if everything goes right for them.
Yeah that makes alot of sense. I felt like if i didnt take them there, they wouldnt make it back to me. I was also thinking that since our league is pretty trade trade happy, i can probably ship some of my young talent to a team thats out of it to bring someone strong into in receiver core if needed.
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08-30-2017 , 10:24 PM
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Well, I did it. I have the top two picks in my 12-team PPR redraft. Epic?

My draft order: 1, 2 zzzzzz 71, 72, 74, 89, 94, 95 ... then regular except I have an extra 13th and no 18th.
Not asking for rating, just thought I'd follow up with how the strategy turned out post-draft.

QB Cam
RB DJ, Bell, Jacquizz, Sims, Burkhead, Dion, Chris Thompson, Smallwood, DeAndre Washington
WR Maclin, Snead, Moncrief, Decker, Hogan, JMatt, John Brown
TE Fleener
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08-31-2017 , 11:23 AM
Need some help on how to adjust value for a new (to me) league. I'm really only familiar with PPR.

It's a 12 team PPR league, passing TDs are worth 6 points, and the Flex position you can start a 2nd QB in, so I assume it's essentially a 2QB league. Rosters otherwise are 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE.

I have the 4th pick. Are QBs more valuable in this kind of league, where it might make sense taking one (I assume first three picks will be Johnson, Bell, A. Brown) right at the jump, or is a WR the play? Thanks.
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08-31-2017 , 11:25 AM
a 2 qb league with passing TDs for 6 I would take aaron rodgers at 4
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08-31-2017 , 11:29 AM
12 team standard (non-PPR) league (expect that passing is 20 yards a point), three keepers.

Would you rather keep Crowell or Rodgers. Other two keepers are WRs (Cooks and Hilton). Most likely only one QB will be kept (Brady). Have the 6th pick in the first round, so might be able to grab Mixon or Cook with my first pick.
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08-31-2017 , 11:38 AM
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Need some help on how to adjust value for a new (to me) league. I'm really only familiar with PPR.

It's a 12 team PPR league, passing TDs are worth 6 points, and the Flex position you can start a 2nd QB in, so I assume it's essentially a 2QB league. Rosters otherwise are 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE.

I have the 4th pick. Are QBs more valuable in this kind of league, where it might make sense taking one (I assume first three picks will be Johnson, Bell, A. Brown) right at the jump, or is a WR the play? Thanks.
So the question is Julio or Rodgers at 1.04... I do agree that the top 3 should be as you listed, all ahead of Rodgers. I honestly think the choice is close (wouldn't be close if you couldn't start 4 WRs or non-PPR) - I don't hate either of the two choices here. I probably lean Rodgers though.
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08-31-2017 , 11:50 AM
I'd take Rodgers by far. if there was an additional 'standard' flex spot where you are plausibly starting 2 QBs and 4 WRs then there's some Julio consideration.
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08-31-2017 , 11:57 AM
No, just the one flex spot that can take a QB.

Thanks all for the feedback. I was leaning Rodgers as well, but wasn't certain. There's a lot of Patriot fans in the league, so some chance Brady actually goes top 3 and one of Bell/Johnson/A. Brown fall to me but I'm not banking on it.
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08-31-2017 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
12 team standard (non-PPR) league (expect that passing is 20 yards a point), three keepers.

Would you rather keep Crowell or Rodgers. Other two keepers are WRs (Cooks and Hilton). Most likely only one QB will be kept (Brady). Have the 6th pick in the first round, so might be able to grab Mixon or Cook with my first pick.
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Need some help on how to adjust value for a new (to me) league. I'm really only familiar with PPR.

It's a 12 team PPR league, passing TDs are worth 6 points, and the Flex position you can start a 2nd QB in, so I assume it's essentially a 2QB league. Rosters otherwise are 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE.

I have the 4th pick. Are QBs more valuable in this kind of league, where it might make sense taking one (I assume first three picks will be Johnson, Bell, A. Brown) right at the jump, or is a WR the play? Thanks.


I'm as anti early qb in general as anyone, but the answer to both of these questions is ARod imo.
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08-31-2017 , 12:17 PM
ARod won't be there at 4 I'd say. If you don't go QB round 1 then the next 2 picks need to be QB and you'll be liking at Kirk cousins if you're lucky.
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08-31-2017 , 12:47 PM
Another edition of THIS OR THAT. You know the drill, quote and bold the guy you like in PPR. Some interesting decisions coming up


Julio or OBJ

Melvin Gordon or AJ Green

Gronk or Ajayi

Demarco or Gurley

Kareen Hunt or Fournette

Zeke or Kareem Hunt

Lynch or Hyde

Mixon or CJ Anderson
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08-31-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Another edition of THIS OR THAT. You know the drill, quote and bold the guy you like in PPR. Some interesting decisions coming up


Julio or OBJ

Melvin Gordon or AJ Green

Gronk or Ajayi

Demarco or Gurley

Kareen Hunt or Fournette

Zeke or Kareem Hunt

Lynch or Hyde

Mixon or CJ Anderson
Julio
AJ
Ajayi
Murray
Hunt
Hunt
Hyde
Mixon
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08-31-2017 , 01:41 PM
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Another edition of THIS OR THAT. You know the drill, quote and bold the guy you like in PPR. Some interesting decisions coming up


Julio or OBJ Julio. While granted it would be a miracle if he went the whole season injury free, he is the healthy one.

Melvin Gordon or AJ Green AJ Green. Just prefer to take WR at the end of the first.

Gronk or Ajayi Taking neither in the 2nd but will take both in the 3rd. Gronk first.

Demarco or Gurley I'm leaning towards Gurley now. It really is close. Gurley should have more touches. That is barely enough for me.

Kareen Hunt or Fournette Hunt. Line is better, more passes.

Zeke or Kareem Hunt Zeke, you can fill in with random RBs and then you have the hammer coming later in the year.

Lynch or Hyde Hyde. That Shanahan offense has put up some nice seasons for RBs over the years.

Mixon or CJ Anderson Mixon. Anderson is just bad. I love when people take him before me.


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08-31-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Another edition of THIS OR THAT. You know the drill, quote and bold the guy you like in PPR. Some interesting decisions coming up


Julio or OBJ - One spot apart in my ranks, OBJ's injury made me flip them.

Melvin Gordon or AJ Green - Don't think this one is close at all, but I'm a Gordon hater.

Gronk or Ajayi - This one is close, have them one spot apart. Could be convinced Ajayi is the play on ESPN since Kelce and Reed are so buried in their rankings relative to mine.

Demarco or Gurley - Don't think this one is particularly close. Top of a tier vs bottom of a tier for me.

Kareem Hunt or Fournette - Have these guys in a different tier, but don't feel great about it...have their adp's really gotten that close where you can't get Hunt a round later?

Zeke or Kareem Hunt - Different tier for me.

Lynch or Hyde - Another one spot aparter. Had Lynch one ahead in my ranks going into a draft, then had the decision between the two of them and took Hyde, so flipped them.

Mixon or CJ Anderson - I'm not high on Mixon at this point and still don't think this is close. Different tiers obv.
Another one.
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08-31-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Another edition of THIS OR THAT. You know the drill, quote and bold the guy you like in PPR. Some interesting decisions coming up


Julio or OBJ Julio. Theyre both beasts, but julio just has monstrr days

Melvin Gordon or AJ Green super close for me but i probably lean AJ green

Gronk or Ajayi Gronk. Im thinking this is the year he stay healthy

Demarco or Gurley Gurley. I think Demarco finally breaks down this year

Kareen Hunt or Fournette fournette. If his college game transfers over remotely hes gonna be a top back

Zeke or Kareem Hunt Hunt. With the suspension, i bet zeke hits a rookie slump

Lynch or Hyde lol niether probably gamble on lynch

Mixon or CJ Anderson
niether again but probably anderson
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08-31-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Another edition of THIS OR THAT. You know the drill, quote and bold the guy you like in PPR. Some interesting decisions coming up


Julio or OBJ Julio: Julio's not injured

Melvin Gordon or AJ Green Green: Gordon is an injury waiting to happen and no clear handcuff that I can get late when he goes down. Green is not without injury risk, but he's a proven stud

Gronk or Ajayi Gronk: Ajayi is overated. Dolphins suck and that line really sucks.


Demarco or Gurley coinflip, leaning gurley as he's healthy and has no competition at all

Kareen Hunt or Fournette Hunt - not injured, no one else to really compete for carries, and he's part of a better overall offense that will score more

Zeke or Kareem Hunt Elliott: DMac x 6 wks + Elliott x 10 weeks >>> Hunt. And Ellliott prob won't even get six weeks

Lynch or Hyde coinflip, Hyde in PPR, Lynch in standard

Mixon or CJ Anderson Anderson: Mixon is stuck in a 3 man committee. That's hard to break out of.
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08-31-2017 , 04:03 PM
10 team PPR, couple questions going in since I haven't done any drafts this year...

1. Drafting 2nd, so I'll have 19th coming back around. Is it crazy to go Zeke here and try to patch together RBs for the remaining weeks?

2. Our league is also 6 pt passing TDs. I'll have 22nd coming back around - can I take Rodgers/Brady here or does that too often give me a subpar set of WR?
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08-31-2017 , 04:37 PM
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10 team PPR, couple questions going in since I haven't done any drafts this year...

1. Drafting 2nd, so I'll have 19th coming back around. Is it crazy to go Zeke here and try to patch together RBs for the remaining weeks?

2. Our league is also 6 pt passing TDs. I'll have 22nd coming back around - can I take Rodgers/Brady here or does that too often give me a subpar set of WR?

1. I've seen Zeke go in this spot. As currently expected with the 6 game suspension - I would rather take another RB. If you take Zeke, look to grab McFadden or your 3rd RB earlier than usual. He may also play through the appeal, but I don't know when you find that out. He would be a massive steal if you think he gets to play the whole season somehow.


2. WR is really deep. If you really want Rodgers/Brady, you would have to do it here, and it's ok. Plenty of Wrs get target through the rest of the draft.
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08-31-2017 , 04:38 PM
I think the less teams in the league, the earlier you can comfortably draft Zeke because replacement level gets higher.
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