Hi, snowie advise x/r on turn. Why is x/r on turn better as on flop? In my opinion the best option is x/c on most streets. thanks


Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $25.40 (101.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $34.65 (138.6 bb)
MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $19.57 (78.3 bb)
BTN: $47.08 (188.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 4
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.62, SB folds, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34) A Q 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.99, Hero calls $0.99

How many fours of diamonds are in this deck?

Assuming you have a different pair of fours in your hand, calling on the flop might be better than raising because you don't have many hands to balance with on this board that greatly favours the PFR's range. In addition, bottom set might not be doing spectacularly well against the range that continues when facing a flop check-raise. Villain is probably likely to barrel many turns where you'll have more strong hands and bluffs, so there might be more EV in waiting till the turn. I can't say what the best turn play will be without seeing the turn card. On some turns, leading, check-calling or check-raising could all be appropriate.

EDIT: I just tried picking some random turn cards. On quite a few of them, Snowie says BTN should overbet 2x pot. That would be good for you.

Probably because snowie doesn’t think you can get value vs AK on all streets , and often playing for stacks. I think in real poker you’re getting that value.

what is the best bluff hands for ballance on flop? thanks

Some flush drAws, gut shots, some 4x with 'clean outs' I hesitate with KdJd bc good equity + blockers, but has Sd value, some kind of BDFD. But dont goo too bluff heavy bc you dont have too many value. But all of those in some proportion. Be careful to balance your turn board coverage. You want a bluff on a diamond, on a non diamond, etc...

You don't have many combo draws, because KJs, KTs and JTs are 3-bet at least some of the time, and they'd all be fine as check-calls anyway. 53dd is about the only hand that has good equity but zero SDV, thus making it a pretty good check-raise candidate.

Id raise that flop all day long. This is a 25c game and Snowee doesn't account for things like player pools. It just tries to play the best against ALL possible strategies. Perhaps a raise on the turn is better against an advanced player. But this dude will think we hold the nuts if we raise the turn. And that's if he even bets it. And if the flush doesn't hit.

Defo a raise on the flop for me. Nice and big. Snowee and GTO suck.

I dont disagree with yadoula, but for the gto part both are fine. Bc you have many hands in your range who want to check call but cant check call 3 streets.

I also want to point in the other thread 'why we bet' On a very similar board, Arty recommended overbet 2* pot on turn. Tough now we dont see the turn card yet, there is a very valid argument for check call flop.

However the reason he overbets 2* turn is bc he expects you to check raise your sets on the flop. If you stop doing it he must adjust too. So the GTo is going to be a mix.

I also did not check but I think the gto will prefer check raise flop 44, and delay turn a but more A4 AQ if you have AQ because of blockers effect.

I dont disagree the choice of specific bluff combos with Arty, and I agree this is a small frequency anyways that you check raise. However if you ask, you must ensure not only to have equity but board coverage turn. Because if you just think equity then on a diamond turn IP just fold everything. On K J T it may be fold a bit more too.

The thing is you dont have to win every hand with every bluff. Sometimes you need bluffs with low equity. Having equity bluff allow to bluff more however, since som of those will become value hands. It s good to have the board coverage check callig too.

Is snowie always right? Isn't it limited to 3 betsizes?

I dont know

There is a whole thread in this subforum about snowie and I think the consensus has been the preflop advice is pretty solid but it does weird things on later streets.