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03-08-2019 , 10:16 PM

tuccotrading

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Comments on the spreading European trend of c-betting the flop 100 percentage of the time when heads up in position on one opponent with sizings of 33 percent and smaller?

Not always "optimum" but close enough with obvious benefits say some practitioners (?)

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03-09-2019 , 09:02 AM

just_grindin

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It has been discussed on here quite often.

The high flop cbet frequency + small flop cbet sizing tends to be an exploitive adjustmemt to opponents that don't call/raise enough vs the sizing.

The lower cost of bluffing lets people bluff more because the cost of the bluff is smaller.

Defend against it by expanding your calling and raising ranges slightly.

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03-09-2019 , 10:41 AM

ArtyMcFly

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It apparently works well up to and including to 500NLz.

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03-11-2019 , 07:26 PM

tuccotrading

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Originally Posted by just_grindin

Thanks.

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03-11-2019 , 07:27 PM

tuccotrading

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

It apparently works well up to and including to 500NLz.

Arty sees all and knows all! Thanks.

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03-11-2019 , 08:01 PM

LoveUknow

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I will implement it because its a good strategy for beginners.
You can mix it up once you are stregically sound.
But by then you play midstakes.

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03-13-2019 , 03:15 AM

WHATSMYNAMEHUH

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

It apparently works well up to and including to 500NLz.

when we cbet 33%pot and villain raises us, do we follow the defending range recommended by PIO or should we underdefend since the population at low-micro stakes doesn't have the correct/optimal raising freq?

by underdefending, i mean we only continue with our nutted hands/tp hands/draws and fold all our middling pairs and overcards+bd (that PIO will defend vs an optimal raising freq)...your thoughts?

Last edited by WHATSMYNAMEHUH; 03-13-2019 at 03:42 AM.

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03-13-2019 , 04:17 PM

ArtyMcFly

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Under-defend vs value-heavy opponents.

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03-13-2019 , 09:47 PM

WHATSMYNAMEHUH

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

Under-defend vs value-heavy opponents.

is explo folding strong TP's too much?

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03-14-2019 , 03:43 PM

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ArtyMcFly

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Folding top pair is taking it too far I think, especially if you have another high card as your kicker. You've got decent equity vs bottom two pairs, for example. It really depends on your opponent's frequencies and barreling strat though. Vs some nits that literally always have a set if they check-raise the flop, then obviously folding top pair is the best strat.

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03-14-2019 , 10:34 PM

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WHATSMYNAMEHUH

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ok that makes sense

ty arty

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04-22-2019 , 02:15 PM

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Manko898

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What do you guys think is an optimal c-bet% playing HUSNG's with 75bb starting stacks?

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