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Originally Posted by robert_utk
Wow. I should absolutely not be getting the action that I am getting. ....
Can we get a little more specifics as to why some of us think this is advantageous (exploit aside)?
I played 50bb deep NLH for a couple of years and it always seemed like people stacked off way too loosely against me when I was actually playing tighter than I would if I'd been 100bb deep. A common line for me with nutted hands would be bet flop, check-jam turn, and people would make outrageously bad calls, often drawing dead, presumably because they thought the pot odds were too good and they felt "committed". I think regs also automatically that short-stack players are spewy fish. (Which is often true, to be fair).
One way the shorties get an edge is that they can 3-bet (or 4-bet jam) with
linear ranges in every position. They rarely 3-bet/fold, because they only have 50bb (or thereabouts) that they are risking.
e.g. 1: Shorty opens in MP, Hero (with 100bb) 3-bets on BTN, and the shorty just jams 50bb with 77+/AQ+. Hero has to fold everything except TT+/AK. (i.e. hero can't really 3-bet light like he can vs a 100bb villain, because he gets jammed on by a lot of villain's opening range).
e.g. 2: Hero opens BTN hoping to play a pot with a deep stack fish in the BB, but the shorty in the SB 3-bets 77+/AQ/AJs+/KQs, and hero has to fold all his "speculative" hands, because there isn't the right SPR to play A5s, 44 or 76s etc.
It's a common annoyance for deep stack players that when a shorty enters the pot, hero has to play a "short-stack range" instead of his usual strat. e.g. If a 40bb player opens on the button, you can't go set-mining with a small pair (like you could vs a 100bb stack), because the implied odds don't exist.