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01-22-2018 , 11:52 AM
I've just started playing around with a solver and I'm looking at a particular flop strategy BTN v BB (basically one that involves a single cbet size versus a mixed strategy). So I'm looking at the EV of both strategies on different flops but I'm unsure of how I should be extrapolating or using that figure.

So for example here's the results of both strategies on two different flops. The pot is 5.5bb on the flop and both players are 100bb deep:

Flop 1
J 7 3

Mixed strat = 2.65EV
One size strat = 2.46EV

Flop 2
A J 5

Mixed strat = 2.47EV
One size strat = 2.46EV

So in the second flop the EV is very close and it looks as though using the simplified one size strategy would be fine but on the first flop there's a bit of a difference. My problem is not knowing how I should extrapolate that difference to make further sense of it. I believe conversting it into a bb/100 figure would do that but what would the calculation for that be?
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01-23-2018 , 06:46 AM
Every time you are in this exact spot you lose 2.65-2.46=.19bb's * 100 = 19bbs/100 by not sticking to the mixed strategy.

BUT that does not mean it will have this effect on your winrate. For that estimate we would need to have an idea of how often it folds to btn, your btn open frequency, and range.

Assuming you are heads up opening 100% otb and are called 100% you will see this flop 4*3*2/C(52,3)=0.00108

.00108*100*.19bb=~.02bb/100
you only play 1/2 hands otb, so you'll sacrifice about .01bb/100 by deviating from the mixed strategy.

one more thing to note: just because one strategy yields higher ev than another on a particular street does not necessarily mean it yields a higher ev overall.
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01-23-2018 , 03:14 PM
My option is one size strategy otf. With mixed strategy we have to learn more ranges and then use them on next streets. The decision tree grows fast.
IMO more mistakes post and more hours offtable training easily consumes what mixed strategy otf brought.
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01-23-2018 , 06:43 PM
Is the solver assuming rake already? What r u hsing?

The ev of both players should add to the total of the pot. Evs listed appear to be <1/2 of pot and btn should have >50% share

My advice is this: study and implement one size per spot, max two.

It isn't just studying that is importan buy studyin efficiently. Bring ur game to a new level then start adding in sizing deviayions
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01-24-2018 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Is the solver assuming rake already? What r u hsing?

The ev of both players should add to the total of the pot. Evs listed appear to be <1/2 of pot and btn should have >50% share

My advice is this: study and implement one size per spot, max two.

It isn't just studying that is importan buy studyin efficiently. Bring ur game to a new level then start adding in sizing deviayions
The solver us using Stars rake for 25nl. I'm using Gto+

Basically I was planning on looking at some different boards to see if there are any where having a mixed strat is a good bit better than having a fixed 100% cent strat
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01-24-2018 , 08:00 AM
Go for it, but the difference between one size and mixed size will depend on the sizing combinations you choose.

What is the difference between one size 30% pot and mixed sizings of 50% and 100%?

What about one size 50% and mixed sizings of 30% and 100%

And so on and so forth. Maybe you have less differences in EV between mixed sizing and one sizing on AJ5ddh because there is a better mixed sizing strat than the one you’ve chosen.
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01-24-2018 , 09:55 AM
With my limited looking at this usually one sizing is fine, but adding overbets for turns and rivers can add a dece amount of ev
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