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10-22-2020 , 12:50 AM

dovuhieu199798

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I want to ask about self-study tools like Solver, HRC, GTO +, ICMIZER, EQUILAB. In your opinion, which software should t start learning from first? and how many hours per day is reasonable?

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10-22-2020 , 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dovuhieu199798

I want to ask about self-study tools like Solver, HRC, GTO +, ICMIZER, EQUILAB. In your opinion, which software should t start learning from first? and how many hours per day is reasonable?

Really depends on what formats you enjoy playing.

If you only play hyper-turbo's solvers will be virtually useless.
If you only play cash-games HRC and ICMIZER are useless.

So we need to know what games you mostly play to answer your question.

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10-22-2020 , 05:10 AM

dovuhieu199798

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I often play Spin and go and I also want to play multi-table tournaments in the near future. So I want to ask about the software that I should learn. Because I think the final stage of a tournament is selling a lot of things like the spin and go structure. Thanks

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10-22-2020 , 07:42 AM

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Probably better to go for HRC or ICMIZER for now then. I think both have free-trials as well.

And standard equilab is free so yeah get that aswell.

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10-22-2020 , 09:33 AM

Haizemberg93

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Read books Expert Heads Up No Limit Hold'em: Optimal and Exploitative Strategies by Will Tipton. It will help you in short handed formats and to understand solver output. It's loong and somewhat hard book yo read but i think it's worth it.

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10-22-2020 , 10:33 AM

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Final 3 of a tournament will still be much different than a spin&go because the former has ICM and the latter doesn’t. Any winner takes all format will not be influenced by ICM.

ICMizer should still have value for both though. The main limitation is that it can’t cover postflop situations, so it’s mostly only useful for short stack sizes with preflop-only trees, whether ICM is involved or not.

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10-22-2020 , 11:10 AM

dovuhieu199798

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If ICM only works for pre flop situations, can I use Equilab instead? And I saw when Patrick lecnard talked to BENCB789 that he advised everyone to focus on the later stages of the tournament and people should be learning from 30-50BB from HRC rather than 100-200BB vs Solver because the 40-50BB stage is much more meaningful to the player than ICM. I also want to be a good tour operator so I want to ask how effective is it to start learning from HRC with tour? And time per day is how much to make sense? Sorry for my English, I hope you understand. Thanks for the answer.

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10-22-2020 , 11:13 AM

dovuhieu199798

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I really want to read books but my English level is low. t use mostly google translate. Do you think I should read more about The math of holdem by bill chen? And where can I find the book you speak?

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10-22-2020 , 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dovuhieu199798

I really want to read books but my English level is low. t use mostly google translate. Do you think I should read more about The math of holdem by bill chen? And where can I find the book you speak?

Just google it.
Mathematics of poker is good book, not too practical but important for overall understanding.

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